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Join Date: Jan 2007
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Hi all. Has anyone experienced any problems with stone chips under the back doors near the rear wheel arch on the Fiesta? Apparently (according to some info I've seen on the net) it's a known problem but I'm getting the run around by Bayford.
Interested to know if anyone has the same problem. Cheers. |
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Yup i have a couple but used some wax chipstick and polished them out.only way you will stop it happening is by fitting mud gaurds.
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Is that from driving on unsealed (gravel or dirt) roads? I have not had the problem, but I have not left the bitumen yet, although I plan to do so on a holiday soon. I assume the stone chips are visible from the side, not just from underneath the car. |
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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Our has alot of them (almost no paint left
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Doesn't affect my 3-Door Zetec as it has two less doors and side skirts. However parts of the side skirts show how the stones flick up into that area. It is a pretty big issue as most seem to have it, a few people who have Fiestas in my area who drive only on the tarmac have these issues so it's not just for people who drive on gravel and loose surfaces. Greenfoam is right, Ford will have to fix it sooner or later.
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Liverpool, NSW
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Stone chips arent covered by warranty. You want to prevent it put mud guards on or a film in the affected area. I'd be very surprised if Ford come to the party to fix that issue. What makes you all think it would be covered by warranty??
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It's a major issue with the design of the car. Just about every single WS Fiesta has a severe line just under the rear door when stone chips have chipped away at all the paint. It's not your average few chips here and there, it's pretty obvious. Stone chips are a fact of life, but when the chips so commonly direct one spot only, I believe Ford will want to fix it.
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Ford better fix it,its there mistake and give out free protective
vinyl so it does'nt happen again.
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Don't drive on dirt roads.
Stone chips are NOT covered by warranty? How is it a manufacturing defect?
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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People who don't have one just don't get it, I'm 110% sure Ford will fix it AND bring out a fix sometime during this model and it will be fixed on the next update. It's a total flaw in the car, it WILL go rusty in due time. It's not even worth woring about for me yet because it's still early days in the case of Fiesta stone chip rust vs Ford. But it's such a big problem I will never have to worry about it untill they invent a fix
![]() If you don't have a 5 door and your wondering what it's all about imagine the leading edge on the sides of the car being bead blasted paintless lol that's pretty much what is going to happen to every 5 door zetec on the planet and there's alot of them. Like I said no one will have to worry about it. There's way too many people and cars for it to just be ignored. Ours doesn't go on dirt roads but there are stones on normal roads, roads are made from them! and they don't allways stay inside the road. It's just that the new Fiesta 5 door has an amazing abilty to fling every single loose stone right at it's own paint work, it's genius really ![]() Last edited by greenfoam; 16-09-2009 at 02:48 PM. |
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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I was thinking of maybe trying to get the guys who do those clear car bra's on expensive cars to maybe try and put that stuff on the area's affected.
I wonder if it would work.. I'll have to pick up the phone |
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"A small number of new Ford Fiesta 5-door customers have contacted Ford of Europe as they are concerned about paint chipping that has occurred around the lower edge of the rear door aperture on their particular car.
We are aware that a small number of cars are affected, although this issue may have been caused by particular driving conditions or terrain. We do have a remedial action in place which requires the affected area to be painted and a specially designed protection foil placed over the new paint which will avoid further damage in the future. This foil is being fitted to new vehicles as part of the production process from August 2009. We would ask any customer experiencing this concern to contact their local Ford dealer or national Ford Customer Relationship Centre (CRC) or to discuss their particular case. The dealer can then arrange for remedial work to take place." This is from Scott Monty, global Ford manager for Digital Communications. I'm sure he pulls more weight than the local dealer That's in Europe ^ I should be the same deal here, sounds like it's allready been fixed from August build onwards, so now no one has to worry anymore, not that I was worried in the first place:P. It was pretty obvious. Lucky for Ford AU they didn't sell many before August ![]() Last edited by greenfoam; 16-09-2009 at 03:02 PM. |
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Cheers mate. |
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Why doesn't somebody post up a pic, so everybody knows the extent of the damage that every WS owner is talking about
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Sydney
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Can someone post up a picture of the stone chips for us fiesta owners who are apprently mis informed/unknowledgable.
Its clear that Ford Europe has acknowleged that it is a manufacturers fault, but i doubt the huffing and puffing will be successful in convincing Ford Aus.
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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Hmmm,
A few links from a google search: http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?ui...510&topic=9260 Lots of photos if you scroll down: http://www.complaintsboard.com/compl...4.html#c305764 These require a Facebook login: http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?to...9512#post37325 The message above from Scott Monty, Global Digital Communications, Ford Motor Company appears to have been originally posted on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?ui...ic=9625&ref=mf I haven't had the problem - yet - but I'm only at 3700 km. On one side there is a tiny crack in the paint, that may be just a paint flaw - no metal is showing. So far the roads I use are have all been bitumen and quite smooth, but there have been some areas of road repair. It's clear an issue of the aerodynamics of the vehicle. There is a substantial dihedral (angle) between the side of the car and the start of the wheel arches. The rear doors are slightly recessed and so along the line of this dihedral the arches protrude 5mm or more. Stones are obviously kiched up by the front wheels and hit hit the leading edge of the wheel arch. I would not be confident that mud flaps would fix it unless theer was some evidence. My car is a Zetec. The front aerodynamics are a ittle different. Is it occurrinmg on other Zetecs? |
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Mud guards or "mudspats" as Ford call them are not available for the Fiesta Zetec:
http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/Conte...=FOA&c=DFYPage Shame they don't have a picture: http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/Conte...=1137384494373 |
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He's replied to a couple of the complaint groups on facebook and other forums, that's his job.... as digital manager http://zh-cn.facebook.com/topic.php?...512&topic=9040 "To Pedro and others concerned about the Fiesta paint problems: We've followed up internally and with those who have contacted us to look into and investigate the matter. I'm pleased to share our official statement on the matter: A small number of new Ford Fiesta 5-door customers have contacted Ford of Europe as they are concerned about paint chipping that has occurred around the lower edge of the rear door aperture on their particular car. We are aware that a small number of cars are affected, although this issue may have been caused by particular driving conditions or terrain. We do have a remedial action in place which requires the affected area to be painted and a specially designed protection foil placed over the new paint which will avoid further damage in the future. This foil is being fitted to new vehicles as part of the production process from August 2009. We would ask any customer experiencing this concern to contact their local Ford dealer or national Ford Customer Relationship Centre (CRC) or to discuss their particular case. The dealer can then arrange for remedial work to take place. Scott Monty Global Digital Communications Ford Motor Company" |
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Spoke to the local Ford dealer (not the one I got my car through) and they are aware of the problem and say Ford Australia is getting a fix as it is an issue on selected WS Fiesta (they probably haven't herd the resolution, and by selected I suppose he means not the 3-Door). So it's good the local Ford dealer is getting behind the movement, and have said Ford Australia is awaiting the resolution to take action.
Like Greenfoam said all along, it's a bloody common issue and the obvious course of action is to fix the issue. Go chase up your Ford dealers guys, seems the fix has come through. Goodluck!
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Thats good news!!! Hope it all gets resolved for you guys.
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Ok just got this off the uk site heres fords problem beater
check the pics out click on the photobucket links.At the bottom of the page. http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums...opic=7574&st=0
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Mud guards or "mudspats" as Ford call them are not available for the Fiesta Zetec: http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/Cont...e=FOA&c=DFYPage Shame they don't have a picture: http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/Cont...d=1137384494373
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I have seen the mud spatz somewhere but cant remember where
but at the end of the day why should we have to pay for them it should be ford fit them free of charge for there design error.
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