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Old 16-02-2007, 09:34 PM   #1
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Default Detomaso Pantera for sale

saw this, for those with alot more dollars than i have

unique cars

jeez one of them would be fun

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Old 17-02-2007, 12:53 AM   #2
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dang!!!!!
thats a fair wod of cash!
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Old 17-02-2007, 06:20 PM   #3
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sorry if it was the wrong section,aint me selling it, i was posting it coz of the cleveland power in them
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Old 17-02-2007, 07:54 PM   #4
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There's a good article about these cars in the latest Australian Muscle Car magazine (the issue with lime green LC Torana on the cover).
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Old 17-02-2007, 08:14 PM   #5
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ooo, ide love to buy it, shame its out of my price range. All i got was a 1987 XF wagon with rust, that had been involved in a rear end collision that hadent been fixed since 1999....
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Old 17-02-2007, 08:17 PM   #6
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I'd own one of these.

351 clevo, 6 speed, light as buggery.

Beautiful
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Old 17-02-2007, 08:19 PM   #7
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I used to see one run at the Speedway in Newcastle. A guy called Paul McKew was the driver. It eventually evolved into a Grand National at the time they were introduced to the Speedway scene.

Paul McKew also ran a Mini at the Speedway back in the days when they would often blitz the Americans in their Camaros and Monzas.
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Old 17-02-2007, 08:19 PM   #8
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damn! that looks awesome...
yes please
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Old 17-02-2007, 08:26 PM   #9
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actualy they had tried a hole heap of engines for the pantera, and the one that got the part was a 351 clevo with the top loader set up, then later on more development went in and they introduced the six speed, but the most effective was the top loader set up.
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Old 17-02-2007, 09:21 PM   #10
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My absolute dream car is a Pantera GT5-S! For the reasons shown in the picture below, and the mid-mounted clevo!
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Old 17-02-2007, 10:12 PM   #11
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I used to see one run at the Speedway in Newcastle.
SPEEDWAY?? he ran one of these in roundy-roundy racing! What a waste!
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Old 18-02-2007, 05:04 AM   #12
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The panel beaters next door would use our warehouse to park there cars overnight . They would clock off at about 4ish and we would take the cars for a spin around our place . One of these was in getting some rust fixed (i think these things came with rust built in cos man it was rusty ) went ok , was the 4speed man . Was not a well built car though . Drove some really nice cars working there ,the best was a near new 911 turbo .
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Old 18-02-2007, 07:37 AM   #13
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Apart from the non original paint job (looks like candy apple???) it has different and non original on each side. Me thinks $89K is a wee bit too much.

John Hughes, who "invented" World Series Sprintcars, also ran a Pantera in Super Sedan racing at Speedway Park (Adelaide) for many years.
And I reckon a bloke called Brad Scotcher won The Australian Super Sedan title in it, in 1991-92.
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Old 18-02-2007, 09:55 AM   #14
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I have loved these ever since seeing & hearing one at the arthurs seat historic hill climb
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Old 18-02-2007, 11:51 AM   #15
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Anything called a Pantera must be good :P :P
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Old 18-02-2007, 12:24 PM   #16
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actualy they had tried a hole heap of engines for the pantera, and the one that got the part was a 351 clevo with the top loader set up, then later on more development went in and they introduced the six speed, but the most effective was the top loader set up.
They had a ZF 5-speed transaxle fitted ,the top loader was never used as the gear box also has the diff incorporated
hence the trans axle name.

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Old 18-02-2007, 01:04 PM   #17
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actualy they had tried a hole heap of engines for the pantera, and the one that got the part was a 351 clevo with the top loader set up, then later on more development went in and they introduced the six speed, but the most effective was the top loader set up.
WTF??????? This is a mid engined car!

Gee the wheels on that car look real bad.
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Old 18-02-2007, 01:28 PM   #18
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When looking at the Pantera I came across not one, but two Nota Fangs for sale on that website. Those cars are amazing. One holds the outright record for the Noosa Hillclimb. Nota, an Australian manufacturer has some serious motor racing history, most of which was in open wheelers such as Formula Junior and Formula V.

This what they look like side on:
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Old 18-02-2007, 04:46 PM   #19
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A mate of mine used to do ground up restorations mainly of Mustangs in the 80's for a guy who used to import them from The States. One day the importer delivered a Pantera to his workshop that he'd sourced from Honk Kong. It was so rusty that most of the panels had to be remade by hand. When it was finally finished it was a stunning car but we (all over six foot) could only test drive it around the block with the seat out, as it was so cramped inside.
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Old 18-02-2007, 05:11 PM   #20
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"With a propensity for lifting the front at speed, hopeless rear visiblity, no headroom (don't buy one if you are over 5'10"), awkward seats, and impossibly places pedals the Pantera is massively flawed; yet it is remarkably easy to drive. Handling is poised and accurate, plus there is a wall of power that catapults the car to 30MPH in less time than it takes to pronounce its name. Early examples were prone to rust. The 5 speed ZF transaxle cost more to build than the engine." DK Ultimate Classic car.
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Old 18-02-2007, 09:07 PM   #21
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When looking at the Pantera I came across not one, but two Nota Fangs for sale on that website. Those cars are amazing.
I'm a fan of the Fang - they are so ugly that they even make a normal clubman look good. Did the early ones ever use anything other than the Mini's A-series.

I know that they are sort of still produced (Chris Buckingham) using front engined Toyota Camry components swapped around for a mid-engined layout. 4 cyl, 4 cyl Turbo and the V6 (f1?). Anyone else got some more info on the Fangs?

P.S. right at the end the Panteras were menat to be produced as a twin turbo (cant remember if this was the 302 or the 351) to compete in a high-end European GT racing series.
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Old 19-02-2007, 09:11 AM   #22
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ZF transaxle . not much room there for a toploader an a 9 inch

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Old 19-02-2007, 12:24 PM   #23
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SPEEDWAY?? he ran one of these in roundy-roundy racing! What a waste!
Actually, it went quite well. Eventually as it became a Grand National it jsut resembled a wedge with a place for the driver to sit in the middle. They had looked at a Porsche first up and ran it through the computer but the rear engine caused issues (as you'd expect).

Speedway can easily give the best racing - take a look at a Sprintcar - cross between a Cessna and a tractor.

Other "odd" cars I've seen in sedan ranks at Speedway: Turbo Datto 1600 which flew, Rover 3500 which did quite well, minis - thrashed much bigger cars, a VW - hopeless, Charger - did ok, usual Monzas, Camaros, firebirds, falcons, holdens from go to wo, Monzas (vegas, novas, sharks),....
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Old 19-02-2007, 05:13 PM   #24
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Always had a soft spot for the later model ones. Absolutely beautiful, having an Aussie made Cleveland is the icing on the cake.
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Old 19-02-2007, 09:31 PM   #25
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Mmmmmm..... 4v 351 six inches from your left ear, YES PLEASE.
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