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Old 25-09-2012, 04:56 PM   #1
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Default Oz Wide Tuners 10.99s or Faster BA-FG List

So, like me, when I was looking for a tuner, I wanted to find a tuner who has not only experience in tuning, but someone who has cars proven to achieve the goal's I was after. I wanted a 10 sec pass without blowing everything up after 1 run.

Anyway I went on a search to see what workshops around me have proven 10 sec cars and packages. This is where I eventually ended up at Dyno-Mite Performance.

I am putting together a list of Tuners here who may help you on your mission to find your tuner in your area if your chasing speed over dyno figures.

Here is a list of Tuners and Cars who i have got from a whole bunch of forums and websites and their timeslip databases. As i do not have access to keep modifying just the OP I will try keep the page updated as much as possible.

If you know a car / tuner that is missing, please add it to the list. I am aware a few tuners on this forum have not accomplished such missions, but as soon as you do, feel free to have the car added to the list. This list is accurate and up to date

The higher on the list the Tuner is, the more cars they have in the list. If equal number of cars, then the faster car from the workshop is considered on top. I wont be numbering any after the top 3 else I will be sitting there forever changing numbers. 2 Marked in RED are Manual. Envy has put an auto in and ran the 8 sec 1/4mile pass, but still listed as 1 car. Let me know if a tuner/workshop is incorrect. I have updated and removed duplicate entries found around forums. I have changed cars from old tuners to new tuners. (IE: Spiro and his monster now fall under DLM)
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Here are the workshops in order:

1 - VIC - Dyno-Mite Performance
Adrian Abela / CLINIC / BA XR6 Sedan Heathcote 9.844 @ 145.44
Derek / HOPSXR / BA XR6 Sedan Heathcote 10.21 @ 138.29
Dion Amato / GMKILR / BA XR6 Ute Heathcote 10.222 @ 136.49
Shannan / DUZ10 / FG XR6 Sedan 10.40 @ 136
ICER / BA XR6 Sedan Heathcote 10.56 @ 137.6
Adam Pacula / BA XR6 Ute Calder Park 10.619 @ 138.49

2 - VIC - NIZPRO Turbocharging
Christian Delange / rlquik / BF F6 Sedan Calder Park 9.98 @ 138.39
Steve / Glouva / FG Calder Park 10.497 @ 135.63
Dave / Fg F6 Sedan Calder Park 10.75 @ 129
Simon / FG F6 Ute Calder Park 10.85 @ 132.31

3 - QLD - CPV Tuning ( Collinsville - E-mail: cpv.tuning (at) bigpond (dot) com )
David Sheehy (blueboost) / BA XR6 Sedan Palmyra 9.433 @ 146.38
Kent Battle / 1000HP / BA XR6 Ute Palmyra 9.992 @ 143.8
Jay Potter / BA XR6 Sedan Palmyra 10.46 @ 135.3
Joal Walters / BA XR6 Ute 10.81 @ 126.7

QLD - RDP ( Real Dyno Performance )
Steven Leerentveld / YEL57 / BA XR6 Ute Willowbank 10.12 @ 133.61
Brett Deller / FG F6 Sedan Willowbank 10.89 @ 126
Lee / FG GS Coyote 5L SC Sedan Willowbank 10.96 @ 127.26
Lee / FG XR6 Sedan Willowbank 10.994 @ 126

WA - Monsta Torque
tinyplums / A6 FG F6 Ute Motorplex 10.49 @ 139.96
Luke / BF Tornado Perth Motorplex 10.65 @ 139
Josh / FG F6 Ute Perth Motorplex 10.83 @ 131.7
Ross / FG F6 Ute Perth Motorplex 10.97 @ 129

WA - Xtreme Ford Tuning
Ben Atwill / BA XR6 Ute Perth Motorplex 10.21 @ 136.15
Tony Locatori / BF F6 sedan Perth Motorplex 10.27 @ 138
Darren Boland / BA XR6 Sedan Perth Motorplex 10.511 @ 133.53

NSW - CV Performance
Mark Vardanega / AXR19P / BF F6 Sedan W.S.I.D 9.398 @ 149.83
Leigh Whittaker / BA XR6 Ute 10.459 @ 132.69
Peter Terkikar / STD10S / BA XR6 Sedan / W.S.I.D / 10.71 / 125

NSW - CMS ( Crescent Motorsport )
Miguel / FG F6 Sedan WSID 10.56 @ 138.40
Matt / Vevapower / FG XR6T WSID 10.6 @ 132 MPH
Scott / NOT310 / FG f6 Sedan WSID 10.939 @ 127.65

QLD - Elite Automotive
Lee Dalton / 240NOT / BA XR6 Ute Willowbank 10.31 @ 135.2
The Bogan / 445MCW / BA XR6 Sedan Willowbank 10.55 @ 132
Paul / FG F6 Sedan Willowbank 10.86 @ 131

VIC - G-Tech Performance (P.E.T)
Blagojce & Vele Trajkovski / Green BA XR6 Sedan Heathcote 8.71 @ 164.3
Carmine Parente / Purple BA XR6 Sedan Heathcote 9.059 @ 151.82

VIC - Headsex
Danny / BA XR6 Sedan Calder Park 10.300 @ 133.7
Ivan / BA XR6 Ute Heathcote 10.63 @ 132.43

NSW - TRP ( Tony Rigoli Performance )
Phillip Chain / CYCO6T / BA XR6 Sedan W.S.I.D 8.488 @ 165.88

NSW - Envy Dyno
Daniel Linderman ( Bev ) / BA XR6 Sedan W.S.I.D 8.8 @143
Daniel Linderman ( Bev ) / BA XR6 Sedan (Manual) 9.798 @ 149.17

VIC - HP-F ( Horsepower Factory )
Adam Hargrave / INFLYT / BA XR6 Sedan Heathcote 9.981 @ 144.05

QLD - 6BOOST
Brayden / YUTRYN / FG XR6 Sedan 10.08 @ 128

QLD - Dragons Lair Motorsports
Spiro Anton / 021LEA / BA F6 Sedan Willowbank (Manual) 10.224 @145.25

VIC - Allsparks Performance
SICFPV / BA XR6 Heathcote 10.49 @ 133

QLD - Hi-Torque Performance
Ben Kirk / LedFt / BF XR6 Ute Benaraby Raceway 10.566 @129.31

NSW - Autotech Engineering
Spoolman / BF F6 - 10.47 @ 135.2 MPH Heathcote
CSV_LS1 / BF F6 10.92 @ 132 MPH Calder
Gun Younis FG XR6T 10.69@133.38 mph WSID
Spoolman FG XR6T 10.81@129 MPH Heathcote
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Here are the current times in order (total of (onoy) 51 cars since BAs in 2002 in all Australia):

# / State / Vehicle Info / Track / Elapsed Time / Best M.P.H

1. NSW Phillip Chain/CYCO6T/T.R.P BA XR6 Sedan W.S.I.D 8.488 @ 165.88
2. VIC Blagojce & Vele Trajkovski/G-Tech BA XR6 Sedan Heathcote 8.71 @ 164.3
3. NSW Daniel Linderman/Bev/Envy Dyno BA XR6 Sedan W.S.I.D 8.8 @ 143

VIC Carmine Parente/SFD079/G-Tech BA XR6 Sedan Heathcote 9.059 @ 151.82
NSW Mark Vardanega/AXR19P/CV Performance BF F6 Sedan W.S.I.D 9.398 @ 149.83
QLD David Sheehy/blueboost/CPV BA XR6 Sedan Palmyra 9.433 @ 146.38
NSW Daniel Linderman/Bev/Envy Dyno BA XR6 Sedan (Manual) 9.798 @ 149.17
VIC Adrian Abela/clinic/Dynomite BA XR6 Sedan Heathcote 9.844 @ 145.44
QLD Kent Battle/Collinsville/1000HP/ BA XR6 Ute Palmyra 9.992 @ 143.8
VIC Christian Delange / rlquik / Nizpro BF F6 Sedan Calder Park 9.98 @ 138.39
VIC Adam Hargrave/TCB812/HP-F BA XR6 Sedan Heathcote 9.981 @ 144.05
QLD Brayden/YUTRYN/6BOOST FG XR6 Sedan 10.08 @ 128
QLD Steven Leerentveld/YEL57/RDP BA XR6 Ute Willowbank 10.12 @ 133.61
VIC Derek/HOPSXR/Dynomite BA XR6 Sedan Heathcote 10.21 @ 138.29
WA Ben Atwill/Xtreme Ford Tuning BA XR6 Ute Perth Motorplex 10.21 @ 136.15
VIC Dion Amato/GMKILR/Dynomite BA XR6 Ute Heathcote 10.222 @ 136.49
QLD Spiro Anton/021LEA/6BOOST BA F6 Sedan Willowbank (Manual) 10.224 @ 145.25
WA Tony Locatori/Xtreme Ford Tuning BF F6 sedan Perth Motorplex 10.27 @ 138
VIC Headsex/Headsex BA XR6 Sedan Calder Park 10.300 @ 133.7
QLD Lee Dalton/240NOT/Elite Auto BA XR6 Ute Willowbank 10.31 @ 135.2
VIC Shannan/DUZ10/Dynomite FG XR6 Sedan 10.40 @ 136
NSW Spiro Anton/APF81N/CV Performance BA XR6 Sedan W.S.I.D 10.449 @ 134.75
NSW Lee Whittaker/CV Performance BA XR6 Ute 10.459 @ 132.69
QLD Jay Potter/Collinsville BA XR6 Sedan Palmyra 10.46 @ 135.3
WA tinyplums/monsta toruque A6 FG F6 Ute Motorplex 10.49 @ 139.96
VIC SICFPV/Allsparks BA XR6 Heathcote 10.49 @ 133
VIC Steve/Glouva/Nizpro FG Calder Park 10.497 @ 135.63
W.A Darren Boland/Xtreme Ford Tuning BA XR6 Sedan Perth Motorplex 10.511 @ 133.53
QLD The Bogan/445MCW / BA XR6 Sedan Willowbank 10.55 @ 132
VIC ICER/Dynomite BA XR6 Sedan Heathcote 10.56 @ 137.6
NSW Miguel/CMS FG F6 Sedan WSID 10.56 @ 138.40
QLD Ben Kirk/LedFt/Hi-Torque BF XR6 Ute Benaraby Raceway 10.566 @ 129.31
NSW/ Vevapower/CMS FG XR6T WSID 10.6 @ 132 MPH
VIC Adam Pacula/Dynomite BA XR6 Ute Calder Park 10.619 @ 138.49
VIC Ivan/Headsex/ BA XR6 Ute Heathcote 10.63 @ 132.43
WA Luke/Monsta Torque BF Tornado Perth Motorplex 10.65 @ 139
NSW Peter Terkikar/STD10S/CV Performance BA XR6 Sedan W.S.I.D 10.71 @ 125
VIC Dave/Nizpro Fg F6 Sedan Calder Park 10.75 @ 129
VIC FSIX / Autotech Entineering FG XR6 Ute Heathcote - 10.81 @ 128.42
QLD Joal Walters/Collinsville BA XR6 Ute 10.81 @ 126.7
W.A Josh/Monsta Torque FG F6 Ute Perth Motorplex 10.83 @ 131.7
VIC Simon/Nizpro FG F6 Ute Calder Park 10.85 @ 132.31
QLD Paul/Elite Auto FG F6 Sedan Willowbank 10.86 @ 131
QLD Brett Deller/RDP FG F6 Sedan Willowbank 10.89 @ 126
NSW Scott/NOT310/CMS FG f6 Sedan WSID 10.939 @ 127.65
QLD Lee/RDP FG GS Coyote Sedan Willowbank 10.96 @ 127.26
WA Ross/Monsta Torque FG F6 Ute Perth Motorplex 10.97 @129
QLD Lee/RDP FG XR6 Sedan Willowbank 10.994 @ 126

It has been an eventful day doing all the research. Would be much appreciated for a sticky :P

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Where are all the V8's??
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Make a separate one for V8's cause it won't interest some people and probably vice versa.

I'm surprised, I thought a few of them would of had more then one.

Oh and APS had at least one didn't they?
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no idea? Any info on it?

And what V8s are there? Happy to ad them in the list. I did add QLD Lee/RDP FG GS Coyote Sedan Willowbank 10.96 @ 127.26
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http://www.airpowersystems.com/falcon/drags/1163.htm

2004? Didn't know it was that long ago..

Whoops that was CV, sorry.
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I know SA has the quickest street tired and standard ZF in Australia using full weight.BF XR6T on 50% 98/50% E85 and 275/35/18 Nitto Invo's 260 tread wear.Tuned by Bruce Heinrich's I believe.Std turbo with .50 cover.Plazmaman plenum and 4" race box.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUBNR...EF48F3EB1C78E2

A Dash F6 has also run 10.97 at 131.7mph with lazy 60 foot.Same tuner/fuel and turbo but was run on ET Streets.

Results need to show what tire was used imo.
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Nice work Icer. Hopefully my car will be added to the RDP list in the coming weeks with the help of some e85, race airbox and a retune. Elite also have a GTE S/C 5.0L which has run a 10.83@ 130mph owners name is Sutty.
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Sooooooooo nothing from Bluepower then ??
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Nice list .. Impressive when you see how many . Problem is most wouldn't be caged or andra tech'd so won't see much action :(

No need for tyres to be listed IMO . Too much info then , and out come all the " but I was using real street tyres " people ...

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Nice list .. Impressive when you see how many . Problem is most wouldn't be caged or andra tech'd so won't see much action :(

No need for tyres to be listed IMO . Too much info then , and out come all the " but I was using real street tyres " people ...

Bring what ya got and hope its enough is my motto ;)
Thread was started for a chest beat anyway,why does it have to be 10.99s or faster,ICER just has done this so Pitlane/others he hates cant have a mention,has done this thread before on the other forum he is banned from and had one sole objective at hand.

Having the manual trans stated above is just as much of a platform to beat the chest isn't it bloke?
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fantastic list i love this stuff. maybe mods can make this and the V8 one a sticky?

JOSH feel free to add to the modular one i started a while back, i have just updated and be good to have some Aussie cars, the list only has cars running in the 8's or quicker, but for Aussie cars would be good to see cars running 11's and faster? maybe one for NA cars as well?
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did i mention anything about pitlane and others? I think not. Carefully read the OP and it states why the 10.99 list is there. Lets face it, everyone wants a 10 second car. Would you entrust someone with 50 years experience? Or 50 years experience, and proven track records? I know my choice. Anyone could put this list up and it would be exactly the same. So doesn't matter that I put it up. Just I happened to have some time to devote to put it together.

The list is not about what tyres, what mods, how much power etc. This thread is just to help people decide what tuners around their area can help them out to achieve their goal's of a 10 second pass with an experienced tuner.
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Add to the list:

VIC - AVO Turboworld
Jake BA XR6 Sedan Heathcote 10.91 @ 126.02

(can a mod keep updating OP maybe?)
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I'm sure most shops have more than 5 or 6 10 second BA-FG's roll out the doors, I can name that many of Simon (XFT's) cars without even trying....

And if this exercise is being done for the benefit of potential customers with their street cars, shouldnt we be just including street cars that are registered, driven to the track and swap tyres?..... caged race cars with lightening holes drilled everywhere are not exactly what 99.99% of modders on here are chasing are they?

EDIT: And things like fitting C4's and glides..... really?

No problem with an outright list but if we are doing this for the benefit of guys on this forum that want to take their daily driver to a shop and run a 10, why use 8 second cars as examples?

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feel free to list the XTF cars to the list. Again, the list is to show potential workshops who have got a 10.99 or better BA-FG. not street racing registered cars only
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What do you mean "not street racing registered"?

I mean why put cars in there that are clearly setup for the drags when practically everyone that logs on to AFF has modded street cars?

The standouts for me are cars like Christian's F6, wow what a car..... a BF F6 you wouldnt pick for anything other than a factory hot-up, sub 10 on a radial!

By all means have an outright list but some of these cars are not a credible example for guys on here that want a 10 second street car is all I am saying

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unfortunately no matter what the list involves, there will always be some unhappy campers. This list is a list of cars street/full drag that a workshop has achieved a 10.99 or faster time in a BA-FG.
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Its not that there is "unhappy campers", but the motive of the thread (which is an excellent idea I think) and the list as presented walk two very different paths.

By your own admission, your opening post in the thread states "I wanted a 10 sec pass without blowing everything up after 1 run"

Where does this leave 8 and 9 second race cars that have gone through engines to set records?... its not a slight against anyone because to make omlettes you gotta break eggs but its not what your intention was when you opened it?

Or was it?

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intention is clear.

Shows tuners who have a 10.99 sec pass in ANY trim/form BA-FG. Feel free to add to the list. If a workshop has been tuning for a long time they know what is needed to be added to the above list. Would people think the same if another user posted the OP thread?
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Dont really know who you are so I have no preconception/axe to grind

I have met Dion at the AFF nats this year, a really nice bloke and has runs on the board with tuning and his XD is an impressive race car, but Clinic running a 9.8 at the AFF Forum nats in 2010 did nothing for me because of what the car is/how it was raced... arrived on a trailer and the car almost hit the wall due to the way the suspension was setup.

Good on them for going for broke but what I question is that you are going to use that as one example of a car to validate your opening post, I repeat:

"I wanted a 10 sec pass without blowing everything up after 1 run."

I just dont see how it relates... are you saying if the tuner can make the engine hang together go see them?

You also said

"10 second cars and packages"... I wouldnt call all those 8 and 9 second cars packages would you?

As for adding to the list, forgetting Simons own FG ute that has gone 9.40 @ 148

Kevin Otway BF F6 10.87 @ 130
Ash Mackie BF F6 10.87 @ 129
(both the above run on the same day, same XFT stage 2+ package)

Tom Barnes BF F6 10.89 @ 136 (Going off memory there, custom big power setup in the early days)

So theres another 4 XFT cars of guys I know

Like I said, your intention for this thread is good but the examples you have put in the list are wrong, either that or you should have written an "Outright" list

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just mark the drag cars as drag cars, it's pretty easy leave them on the list but just put (race only) or something else in brackets after the entry.
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no worries.

Mod please update OP.
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Plenty of Bluepower tuned cars in the 10's as well...
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if someone can list which cars were drag/unregistered. IE Spiro's (DLM) is still registered. 1600+hp. BEVs is too with AS5IST rego or something.

And can you list the bluepower car's? I couldnt find them anywhere. Seen the ute run flat 11s.
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Spoolman BFF6 10.80@132MPH (Street Trim)
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Bill ,Chris's ute ran flat 10's mate and their sedan runs 10.8s now.. I have very slow internet otherwise i would search and post on their behalf
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think i found em...

Maybe people can fill this thread up, then if mod's dont update it, ill make a new thread in say 1/2months time with all the updates.

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The Argo / BA XR8 SC Ute Heathcote 10.75 @ 138
Chris / BA XR8 NA Sedan Heathcote 10.86 @ 125

who has the black ute that ran 10.23 @ 136mph from bluepower? Or is that Argo's?? (S/Charged and NOS)
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Would love to know which cars are trailer cars and the weight of each car.

Full street trim just doesn't cut it.

Are you trying to find out the best tuner or the best car setup.
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Needs to be some sort of order with this, if you were to split into two groups you could have a few different ways to split that list into Race/Street:

Slick/Radial
Caged/Uncaged
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Stripped/Full Weight

Of the above, I think Slick/Radial is the best way to break them down... its easy to identify and lets face it if you go to the track with radials in the boot, chances are you drove it there, the Brembo's are still on the car and the swaybars are still residing underneath.

Also not to many cars I know of run radials and get gutted out with weight reductions.

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Revzone have a XR6T that ran a 9 sec pass a few years back.Can find the exact time and mph when i get time.
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