September 2020 Vfacts

[Syndrome]

https://www.caradvice.com.au/890374/...own-continues/

[Bossxr8]

Interested to see how Toyota's recent price gouging is going to effect sales. Looks like they are dropping based on their market share % dropping the past 3 months.

And also interested to see how it will effect Hilux sales after they raised prices on the new model.

[au2000]

exactly..
hard to tell how the current events are impacting the sales of ranger v hilux
Ford Ranger 3726 up 19.6 per cent
Toyota HiLux 3610 up 7.3 per cent
have ford sold more rangers this month due to lack of hilux availability? has the hilux price made ranger prices more attractive? what if Victorians could actually go & buy cars? would there be more ranger sales again ?

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by au2000

exactly..
hard to tell how the current events are impacting the sales of ranger v hilux
Ford Ranger 3726 up 19.6 per cent
Toyota HiLux 3610 up 7.3 per cent
have ford sold more rangers this month due to lack of hilux availability? has the hilux price made ranger prices more attractive? what if Victorians could actually go & buy cars? would there be more ranger sales again ?

Last year, Mitsubishi was selling Triton hard with big discounts but last month
Triton lost ~1500 4x4 sales, Ranger looks to have picked up about 800 4x4 sales.
Hilux probably picked up some 4x4 sales as well.

I find the strength in Ranger and Hilux 4x4 sales interesting even with other brands that are loads cheaper,
are sales just polarising or are the two groups just affirming the quality/ reliability of that premium pricing?

[DFB FGXR6]

Ford Numbers -

EcoSport – 0
Endura – 76
Escape – 8
Everest – 517
Fiesta – 15
Focus – 119
Mondeo – 4
Mustang – 145
Puma – 103
Ranger 4x2 – 272
Ranger 4x4 – 3454
Transit Custom – 68
Transit Heavy – 35

Nice work for the Ranger taking the top spot this month, although probably due to stock shortages at Toyota. Also good to see the Everest numbers are picking up.

[jpd80]

Man, that's scary numbers, over 85% of sales coming from Ranger and Everest

[Adamz Ghia]

8 Escapes??

Went and had a look at the Puma today. Bit small for mum but is a great looking car, this thing will sell. Have to wonder how long they’ll persist with Focus and Endura.

[simon varley]

puma numbers are encouraging

[EDManual]

Escapes are ugly... the back looks like they forgot to finish building it?!

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Man, that's scary numbers, over 85% of sales coming from Ranger and Everest

The Falcon Car Company is now the Ranger Truck Company.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

The Falcon Car Company is now the Ranger Truck Company.

I went onto carsales and every ST-Line Puma I clicked on was around $37,000,
I wonder if this is the impression cross shoppers get when they compare online
prices with other brands....

[Paull]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

The Falcon Car Company is now the Ranger Truck Company.

Truck??? You mean "The Ranger ute company"

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by simon varley

puma numbers are encouraging

Demo registrations id say.

[Polyal]

Will be interesting to see how the Mustang holds on over the next 12 months, in hard times you would think items such as sports cars will not be a high priority.

Ute sales doing well, could be instant asset wrte off's from GovCo helping as well? There will be more of that to come I suspect.

I hate to say it, but the sooner Ford cuts the Mondeo the better, a bit dejavu, and some of the others would be hard to justify holding parts and systems at that volume...

If the Puma tanks then Ford needs to come to grips with being a SUV/ute and Mustang company only.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Last year, Mitsubishi was selling Triton hard with big discounts but last month
Triton lost ~1500 4x4 sales, Ranger looks to have picked up about 800 4x4 sales.
Hilux probably picked up some 4x4 sales as well.

I find the strength in Ranger and Hilux 4x4 sales interesting even with other brands that are loads cheaper,
are sales just polarising or are the two groups just affirming the quality/ reliability of that premium pricing?

Mitsubishi have a history of discounting. its like waiting for the Aldi specials. you don't buy them at full price.

[csv8]

Puma seems pricey ? Should start around $25k not $31k. That price will get potential buyers into the showroom. If the ST Line is $37k then the ST V will be around $40k?
Too much competition out there CX3, Seltos, Venue etc...

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

8 Escapes??

Went and had a look at the Puma today. Bit small for mum but is a great looking car, this thing will sell. Have to wonder how long they’ll persist with Focus and Endura.

Escape is in run out waiting for the new model to go on sale. Must not be many left.

Originally Posted by Polyal

Will be interesting to see how the Mustang holds on over the next 12 months, in hard times you would think items such as sports cars will not be a high priority.

Ute sales doing well, could be instant asset wrte off's from GovCo helping as well? There will be more of that to come I suspect.

I hate to say it, but the sooner Ford cuts the Mondeo the better, a bit dejavu, and some of the others would be hard to justify holding parts and systems at that volume...

If the Puma tanks then Ford needs to come to grips with being a SUV/ute and Mustang company only.

Mondeo has already been axed. Whatever sales it gets now are just unsold dealer stock.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Puma would have been Ford demos and dealer demos. I doubt they have "retailed" many at all.

Ford could sell more cars if they had stock. Everest Sport for example is in hot demand and pretty much sold out on the ground (waiting for more shipments).

Mustang is also in short supply. I am currently waiting for mine which should be here late November / Early December.

Ranger stock seems to have picked up again. Wonder how long before Toyota will buckle and do some attractive drive away offers on Hilux.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Will be interesting to see how the Mustang holds on over the next 12 months, in hard times you would think items such as sports cars will not be a high priority.

Ute sales doing well, could be instant asset wrte off's from GovCo helping as well? There will be more of that to come I suspect.

I hate to say it, but the sooner Ford cuts the Mondeo the better, a bit dejavu, and some of the others would be hard to justify holding parts and systems at that volume...

If the Puma tanks then Ford needs to come to grips with being a SUV/ute and Mustang company only.

MY2021 there's a Mach 1 Mustang that's basically a blend of the Bullitt engine with the
GT350 suspension and tyres.....I think that's it anyway.

[Nikked]

Escape needs more push.

Picked up a good deal on a demo for $25'990, not as well spec'd as our old titanium Mondeo, but quite comfortable and good to drive.

Test drove a X-Trail and the Escape was far beyond in the interior department! Also rode better.

[anobserver]

Bring on the Courier. If we get it here.

[russellw]

The first set of graphical stats has been uploaded now with the quarterly ones yet to come.

[PowerShiftFan]

Originally Posted by csv8

Puma seems pricey ? Should start around $25k not $31k. That price will get potential buyers into the showroom. If the ST Line is $37k then the ST V will be around $40k?
Too much competition out there CX3, Seltos, Venue etc...

Compare the spec sheets, Puma is great value. And is European sourced

[MITCHAY]

They have massively increased the instant asset write off threshold to $150k in the budget though still to be legislated.

It will be interesting to see how much of a difference this makes to sales figures.

[Hawkeye84]

Originally Posted by PowerShiftFan

Compare the spec sheets, Puma is great value. And is European sourced

Yeah but its a light SUV based on the underpinnings of the Fiesta.

Hyundai Venue and CX3 in the same segment start off in the 20 thousands..

With the Puma topping out at $40K that's hitting Top Spec Small SUVs like Kona, Seltos, ASX and and upper mid spec CX-30s..


So its fair to say its overpriced.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye84

Yeah but its a light SUV based on the underpinnings of the Fiesta.

Hyundai Venue and CX3 in the same segment start off in the 20 thousands..

With the Puma topping out at $40K that's hitting Top Spec Small SUVs like Kona, Seltos, ASX and and upper mid spec CX-30s..


So its fair to say its overpriced.

It’s main targets are toyota c-hr and mid spec 3. Remember that puma does not have a base model cheapy. So it isn’t over priced compared to equivalent models. Can’t compare the price to base model cheapies, as there is no stripped out puma.

[kevino]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

It’s main targets are toyota c-hr and mid spec 3. Remember that puma does not have a base model cheapy. So it isn’t over priced compared to equivalent models. Can’t compare the price to base model cheapies, as there is no stripped out puma.

Yes but people will compare it to other lower models of the Koreans and Japanese.
Why didnt Ford bring out a base model?
For what it is its too expensive.

[russellw]

The Supplementary Statistics for the 3rd Quarter are now uploaded.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by kevino

Yes but people will compare it to other lower models of the Koreans and Japanese.
Why didnt Ford bring out a base model?
For what it is its too expensive.

I did some research on this, Ford doesn't make a base model Puma,
the trim they just call "Puma" is actually badged as Titanium in the UK.

It's frustrating because Ford thinks the vehicle is good enough to sell itself but here's the thing,
so many buyers just cross shop on line, they don't see "titanium" on the base trim and just assume
it's an over priced base model ...like I did before looking further, sad to say that many will just skip it.

[russellw]

The 3rd Quarter Segment Review is also uploaded now.