You poor Victorians!

IH8HSV · 03-03-2010, 12:07 AM

Hi all...

My girlfriend has just came back from a return drive to Melbourne - from Perth.

It was a good drive she reckons, until we received a speed camera fine yesterday.

The fine is $146.00 for doing 106km in a 100km zone. It was on Dadswells Bridge.

I cant believe the penalty for this! In W.A a patrol car will just flash it lights if you are over the limit by under 10km/h. And its only a $50 fine if done by a camera.

I'm surprised that you Victorians even have a licence at all with such harsh penalties! What would the fine be if she was doing over the 10km's???

A speed measuring device has a tolerance of -/+ 3km, according to Australian tests Ive read on the net. Add this 3km/h figure difference to a speedometer which could be out at least 4km/h and your done for speeding!

I cant believe you Victorians are even still on the road!!! - Poor Buggers.

Melz · 03-03-2010, 12:09 AM

Gee you guys are a couple hours slow over there... your a couple decades!!

Since when were fines ever that low?

ford man xf · 03-03-2010, 12:18 AM

yep we are by far the nanny state, the problem is they are "cotton wooling" everyone, they think for us, it won't be long before we may as well not leave the house and just stay in.
Revenue raising at its finest. and of course they will keep telling us that its cutting down the road toll, what because someone is a few KM's over, does the state government think we are all that stupid?

Jorgo85 · 03-03-2010, 12:33 AM

I think the penalties have gone up here in WA. It's now $75 under 10km/h over. 10km/h+ is $150 and 2 points. 20km/h is $300 and 3 points. Thats as far as I can remember. I lost 6 points in 2 weeks when I was working in Boddington. Not hooning, just cruising along and not realising I was speeding that much.

schnoods · 03-03-2010, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Melz

Gee you guys are a couple hours slow over there... your a couple decades!!

Since when were fines ever that low?

Must be something in the Cerveza there...

Iggypoppin' · 03-03-2010, 12:43 AM

This is why I drove very slowly in vic.. Copped abuse alot!!! But no fines! Thank god.

barra265t · 03-03-2010, 12:45 AM

A speed camera on a bridge? Where's Dadswell's Bridge?

IH8HSV · 03-03-2010, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by EFXR65spd

I think the penalties have gone up here in WA. It's now $75 under 10km/h over. 10km/h+ is $150 and 2 points. 20km/h is $300 and 3 points. Thats as far as I can remember. I lost 6 points in 2 weeks when I was working in Boddington. Not hooning, just cruising along and not realising I was speeding that much.

No mate... The $50 fine travelling no more then 10km over the speed limit still stands in W.A.

awoo87 · 03-03-2010, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by barra265t

A speed camera on a bridge? Where's Dadswell's Bridge?

By the big koala on the great western highway.

Pinkbits · 03-03-2010, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by barra265t

A speed camera on a bridge? Where's Dadswell's Bridge?

It's a very small town (blink & you miss it) between Stawell & Horsham, a few bends and notorious for truck roll overs.
That whole section between Beafort & Hosham is VERY well policed.

VICFPV · 03-03-2010, 07:22 AM

Yep totally agree.
I hate driving in Vic as there is just too many things to lookout for.
I am never going to drive there again.
Last driving trip there was awful and had to drive very slow and cop abuse as well.

Tray · 03-03-2010, 07:46 AM

Im in vic, got cought doin 10k's over, 3 demerit points and $234 fine, and us p platers only get 5 points. So basicly I lost 60% of my license doin 10k's over the limit

chrisfpv · 03-03-2010, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Tray

Im in vic, got cought doin 10k's over, 3 demerit points and $234 fine, and us p platers only get 5 points. So basicly I lost 60% of my license doin 10k's over the limit

I know how you feel mate.

I'm a P plater too and a couple of weeks ago I got hit by a speed camera doing 65km/h in a 60 zone. Then later that day going down the same road got hit by it again doing 67km/h.

Added up to over $300 in fines and a demerit point for each one.

What annoys me the most is I see people do over 100km/h on this road, day in and day out.

LTDterri · 03-03-2010, 08:03 AM

Welcome to Victoria.....Seriously Id say most of us VICS are well used to the camera's here now they have been around along time, the good news is it makes us closer as we all warn each other of speed camera positions and when in Country Victoria they stand out because they are parked in the middle of nowhere. They had an interesting story on the TV not long ago regarding the amount of drivers on the verge of loosing their licences because of too many points, and our Freeways fantastic !!!! variable speed zones so one minute they are showing 100km then bang 90km and 30m up the road a speed camera, gota love the Brumby Government.

Pinkbits · 03-03-2010, 08:17 AM

The key is to use your GPS to it's full advantage, drive off your cruise control & be observant of what's around (late model cars on side of Hwy= alarm bells).
I have driven over 50.000km a year (work related) for the past three and have'nt been pulled over let alone lost any points.
Been through a few random breath tests in the country though.

#edit, I lied.
Got done by a speed camera on the way to Geelong for AFD 2 years ago.
105 in 100 zone (four lanes & no other car around) driving a 34 year old car in MPH!. I'm a criminal & a hoon.

JC · 03-03-2010, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by IH8HSV

Hi all...

My girlfriend has just came back from a return drive to Melbourne - from Perth.

It was a good drive she reckons, until we received a speed camera fine yesterday.

The fine is $146.00 for doing 106km in a 100km zone. It was on Dadswells Bridge.

I cant believe the penalty for this! In W.A a patrol car will just flash it lights if you are over the limit by under 10km/h. And its only a $50 fine if done by a camera.

I'm surprised that you Victorians even have a licence at all with such harsh penalties! What would the fine be if she was doing over the 10km's???

A speed measuring device has a tolerance of -/+ 3km, according to Australian tests Ive read on the net. Add this 3km/h figure difference to a speedometer which could be out at least 4km/h and your done for speeding!

I cant believe you Victorians are even still on the road!!! - Poor Buggers.

If she has a good recent driving record, you can write in and ask for the fine to be withdrawn; usually if you have had no fines in the last 2 or 3 years, they will withdraw this low level fine.

MYVYSS · 03-03-2010, 08:24 AM

I think you girlfirend got of lightly, she is a menace to society, travelling at those sorts of speeds she could have killed the entire town, lost control and wiped out an entire town....or she could have been court up in the biggest money grab ever to hit any state in Victoria...either way sorry mate...

CADSKY · 03-03-2010, 08:25 AM

as LTDterri said, most victorians are used to it by now, simple fact is if you dont want a speeding fine then dont speed. this is just a thread made to have a whinge cos your gf got a fine, she was speeding, deal with it. oh and just so you know, my dad recently got a speeding fine for doing less than 10k's over, $158.60. he lives in brisbane. so there are worse off places.

GavL · 03-03-2010, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkbits

#edit, I lied.
Got done by a speed camera on the way to Geelong for AFD 2 years ago.
105 in 100 zone (four lanes & no other car around) driving a 34 year old car in MPH!. I'm a criminal & a hoon.

I'd imagine that your speedo wouldn't be as accurate as in some of today's cars either?

joolz · 03-03-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by barra265t

A speed camera on a bridge? Where's Dadswell's Bridge?

Its a very little place around 150k's from Ballarat towards Horsham. All thats there is the Big Koala a motel and a caravan park.

vztrt · 03-03-2010, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by joolz

Its a very little place around 150k's from Ballarat towards Horsham. All thats there is the Big Koala a motel and a caravan park.

And a speed camera.

joolz · 03-03-2010, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkbits

It's a very small town (blink & you miss it) between Stawell & Horsham, a few bends and notorious for truck roll overs.
That whole section between Beafort & Hosham is VERY well policed.

They also police the over taking lanes after Ballarat..... Im originally from Stawell and going home to Melbourne seen several times 4 to 5 police cars patrolling the overataking lanes. I got pinged by a mobile TOG once just after i pulled out to over take near lake Burrumbeet (near Ballarat)

IH8HSV · 03-03-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CADSKY

as LTDterri said, most victorians are used to it by now, simple fact is if you dont want a speeding fine then dont speed. this is just a thread made to have a whinge cos your gf got a fine, she was speeding, deal with it. oh and just so you know, my dad recently got a speeding fine for doing less than 10k's over, $158.60. he lives in brisbane. so there are worse off places.

I'm not having a whinge mate.

I was just trying to point out how harsh the penalties are over there compared to W.A.

And how easy it would be to get a fine if the speed measuring device was out by a few kilometers and also the speedometer.

aquahead2001 · 03-03-2010, 12:39 PM

I know a bloke who came to Vic for work from WA, in a 1 week period he accummulated sufficient loss of points to lose his license twice over. All on the Princess Freeway between Melbourne and Geelong.

He was warned but didn't think that the fixed cameras were set so low.

It's a money raising venture that the Vic Government is quite good at. Absolutely does nothing to save lives, just adds $300 odd million into the stae coffers each year...

LTDHO · 03-03-2010, 12:46 PM

IH8HSV - where the hell have you been mate? have a look at every thread in AFF regarding 'speed cameras'.

we can only speed up to 3klm over without copping a fine.

Brazen · 03-03-2010, 12:51 PM

Yeah I love driving interstate, but I never drive to Victoria its a real joke over there. Whats funnier is when Victorians tell me 'if you dont want a speeding ticket, dont speed'...Umm ok. Stupidly harsh speeding laws coupled with effective government anti-speeding TV ads (Victorians watch a lot of TV!) means that most of them cop it sweet.

I guess they would spend more time staring at their speedo rather than the road ahead, probably why they never notice that they are sitting in the right lane.

In the end they get the government they deserve....

john3136 · 03-03-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazen

Whats funnier is when Victorians tell me 'if you dont want a speeding ticket, dont speed'...Umm ok.

I think most Victorians (myself included) would prefer to give you a 10 minute rant on stupid speed cameras, stupid revenue raising tricks.
I don;t understand how the police can just introduce all this stuff when the the public don't want it.
Don't they work for us?

82XD393.3v · 03-03-2010, 02:05 PM

i belive local councils install the fixed cameras not the police

JAYMZ · 03-03-2010, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Iggypoppin'

This is why I drove very slowly in vic.. Copped abuse alot!!! But no fines! Thank god.

Now i know why i see interstate platted cars going slow. I thought they didn't know where they were going, ie looking for the right street.

Now i understand.

vztrt · 03-03-2010, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by john3136

I think most Victorians (myself included) would prefer to give you a 10 minute rant on stupid speed cameras, stupid revenue raising tricks.
I don;t understand how the police can just introduce all this stuff when the the public don't want it.
Don't they work for us?

Governments wont make a change unless it may cost them a seat/election. It seems everyone complains but we do nothing about it.