Got fine, 60 days til opens *help*

fomoco3628 · 11-06-2007, 01:37 PM

I just got a fine of $350 and 6 points.I'm 60 days off getting my opens. I've heard of people close to having their opens waiting til the get a reminder notice then say they want to appeal it in court to stretch out the time. then before they go to court they pay the fine so the points come off their opens. Both of these people were from N.S.W. I was just wondering if this will work in Q.L.D? it's either try that or go on a work licence for 12months. Any help will be appreciated
cheers

LUXO_8 · 11-06-2007, 01:41 PM

what the hell did you do to cop 350 and 6 points?
i dont think you''ll have much of a chance.....you did the crime on your probationary, you should wear that kind of punishment IMO

eXtremist · 11-06-2007, 01:50 PM

Double demerits only applies to seat belts and speeding.

I'm pretty sure he was speeding.

Send them a letter which will extend it a little, and I think you have something like 21 days to pay it after you receive your 2nd notice which will arrive about a week after the due date period.

theunfairadvant · 11-06-2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by eXtremist

Double demerits only applies to seat belts and speeding.

I'm pretty sure he was speeding.

Send them a letter which will extend it a little, and I think you have something like 21 days to pay it after you receive your 2nd notice.

eXtremist,

Double demerits applies to everything not just seatbelts and speeding.

eXtremist · 11-06-2007, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by theunfairadvant

eXtremist,

Double demerits applies to everything not just seatbelts and speeding.

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Double demerit points apply for speeding and seatbelt offences from Friday 8 June to Monday 11 June inclusive.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregul...hfid=ddemerits

flappist · 11-06-2007, 01:57 PM

The penalty starts for the time you are convicted or pay the TON. If you pay the fine within the prescribed 21 days you will be walking.
Should you choose to contest the alleged offence you will have to appear in court. This will be more than 60 days as Hervery Bay MgtCt is fairly busy at the moment. This is assuming the offence was local.
What were you booked for? Where did it happen? Did you actually do it?
See a solicitor tomorrow. There are a few who specialise in these matters.
If you did, in fact, do it, here or in Maryboring remember the traffic branch is small and they have good memories so if you manage to keep your licence PULL YOUR HEAD IN or you will get rolled again....

Fairlane · 11-06-2007, 01:57 PM

Didnt know it was possible to get a 6 demerit point driving offence in QLD

**Mechan1k** · 11-06-2007, 01:58 PM

As mentioned ... seatbelts and speeding only.
Until midnight tonight ... so be careful out there kiddies.

DJL351 · 11-06-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fomoco3628

I just got a fine of $350 and 6 points.I'm 60 days off getting my opens. I've heard of people close to having their opens waiting til the get a reminder notice then say they want to appeal it in court to stretch out the time. then before they go to court they pay the fine so the points come off their opens. Both of these people were from N.S.W. I was just wondering if this will work in Q.L.D? it's either try that or go on a work licence for 12 months. Any help will be appreciated
cheers

This was a "loop-hole" most States fixed some time ago.

I held out on a fine until I got the second "pay or else" notice. Paid it and held on to my licence.
(I was done for two points and only had one left, by the time I paid the fine, I had got two lots of two points back)

I know of a young bloke that tried it about 12 months ago.
It was "backdated" to when he was stuck with one point... and he lost his licence for three months.

D

sexr6tasy · 11-06-2007, 01:58 PM

Here in s.a the exact same thing happened to me except it was for a u turn at a no right turn sign it took them 6 months to get me into court and i had got my full license 5 months earlier but they said if i lose in court its back to p's straight away remove the points of the licence i had at the time then id have to go bak to p1. Lucky i won in court lmao now im fully licenced.

flappist · 11-06-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by eXtremist

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregul...hfid=ddemerits

The NSW traffic act only applies to NSW........

theunfairadvant · 11-06-2007, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fomoco3628

I just got a fine of $350 and 6 points.I'm 60 days off getting my opens. I've heard of people close to having their opens waiting til the get a reminder notice then say they want to appeal it in court to stretch out the time. then before they go to court they pay the fine so the points come off their opens. Both of these people were from N.S.W. I was just wondering if this will work in Q.L.D? it's either try that or go on a work licence for 12months. Any help will be appreciated
cheers

fomoco3628,

Give the guys below a call as they have never ever lost a case before,
just tell them the truth of what actually happen.
What you pay them is well worth it so you will know what to do next time.
http://www.speedingfineconsultants.com/

eXtremist · 11-06-2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

The NSW traffic act only applies to NSW........

Meh, I tried.

TheSneakiness · 11-06-2007, 02:06 PM

I'd assume you got done for speeding, I don't think there's any other driving infringement you can get up here that belts you for that many points.

The thread starter is located in QLD, not NSW guys...

fomoco3628 · 11-06-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

What were you booked for? Where did it happen? Did you actually do it?

I was booked for 131km/h in a 100 zone, on hervey bay burrums road and i was around that speed not to sure (i was overtaking down a hill) It's my first fine. I don't care if i have to go on a work licence for 12 mths i just heard there was a loop hole in N.S.W. I pretty sure the $350 and 6 points for 30 km/h ova speed limit are standard fine in queensland.

bonspeed · 11-06-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

The penalty starts for the time you are convicted or pay the TON. If you pay the fine within the prescribed 21 days you will be walking.
Should you choose to contest the alleged offence you will have to appear in court. This will be more than 60 days as Hervery Bay MgtCt is fairly busy at the moment. This is assuming the offence was local.
What were you booked for? Where did it happen? Did you actually do it?
See a solicitor tomorrow. There are a few who specialise in these matters.
If you did, in fact, do it, here or in Maryboring remember the traffic branch is small and they have good memories so if you manage to keep your licence PULL YOUR HEAD IN or you will get rolled again....

Good advice. I personally think your ******.

lotus · 11-06-2007, 03:02 PM

Isn't it amazing how many people get done just 1 Klm over so that it puts you into the next bracket of fines!!
Reminds me of a few years ago while working in Newcastle. Two of us driving the same type of vehicle went through the same fixed camera (40K's) at different times and both clocked 51Klms. Amazing!!!
Then went to Wyong and my mate got hit again for 51K's in a 40 zone.

bonspeed · 11-06-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lotus

Isn't it amazing how many people get done just 1 Klm over so that it puts you into the next bracket of fines!!
Reminds me of a few years ago while working in Newcastle. Two of us driving the same type of vehicle went through the same fixed camera (40K's) at different times and both clocked 51Klms. Amazing!!!
Then went to Wyong and my mate got hit again for 51K's in a 40 zone.

Good point, do you think they do this on purpose?

Fairlane · 11-06-2007, 03:06 PM

go straight to the source

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home...d_provisional/

You should be able to get away with a good behaviour period if you want too.

Otherwise though the loop hole might still exist

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home...emerit_points/

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The demerit points set for the offence are taken to have been allocated on the day that you committed the offence, as soon as you have:

a) paid the fine set for the offence; or
b)been dealt with by a court for the offence.

Lucky you arent in NSW because with 31kmh over your F'ed instant suspension

atec77 · 11-06-2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairlane

go straight to the source

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home...d_provisional/

You should be able to get away with a good behaviour period if you want too.

Otherwise though the loop hole might still exist

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home...emerit_points/

Lucky you arent in NSW because with 31kmh over your F'ed instant suspension

Last time I went I was doing the stated 39 over , and didn't pay , then appealed etc and now I am back on full points , it cost me $350 eventually in time to pay but I got more satisfaction than that in return , road works on a sunday marked from 80 down to 40 signs covered but hats still on roads edge ... someimte you have to just be difficult , call that link suggested as you might be able to drag it down on speed and save points/ good luck

Rodp · 11-06-2007, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fomoco3628

I was booked for 131km/h in a 100 zone, on hervey bay burrums road and i was around that speed not to sure (i was overtaking down a hill) It's my first fine. I don't care if i have to go on a work licence for 12 mths i just heard there was a loop hole in N.S.W. I pretty sure the $350 and 6 points for 30 km/h ova speed limit are standard fine in queensland.

I was under the impression that 130+ is loss of licence anyway, or is that state specific as well?

fomoco3628 · 11-06-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodp

I was under the impression that 130+ is loss of licence anyway, or is that state specific as well?

you don't get suspended in queensland but if your over by 40kmh a $700 + 8points and 6mths suspension

Green X · 11-06-2007, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fomoco3628

I was booked for 131km/h in a 100 zone, on hervey bay burrums road and i was around that speed not to sure (i was overtaking down a hill)

That's about the average speed I do when overtaking, I don't like to spend any more time on the wrong side of the road than I have to.

olfella · 11-06-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Green X

That's about the average speed I do when overtaking, I don't like to spend any more time on the wrong side of the road than I have to.

Same here. get out and get back. I am sure if you tell this to the boys in blue then they can make a disretionary call. I did it once but unfortunatly I was miles in front of the bloke I overtook....

Unco · 12-06-2007, 09:58 AM

yep. i think it depends on how you handle the situation and whether the cop that pulls you over has had a good day or not. i once got pulled over for 91k in what used to be an 80k zone, but was marked down to 60k for road works on heathcote road. i told the copper that i honestly didn't realize that the speed limit had been marked down, he dropped the fine down a bracket: between 15 and 30k over. i thought that was good of him.

daz82 · 12-06-2007, 11:04 AM

[QUOTE=fomoco3628]I was booked for 131km/h in a 100 zone, on hervey bay burrums road and i was around that speed not to sure (i was overtaking down a hill) It's my first fine. I don't care if i have to go on a work licence for 12 mths i just heard there was a loop hole in N.S.W. I pretty sure the $350 and 6 points for 30 km/h ova speed limit are standard fine in queensland.[/QUOTE

Well for starters you were going down a hill. From memory there is a law that states that you can't be booked within a certain distance of an incline or decline. i know of several people that have gotten off low level offences in Melbourne's tunnels because of this.

**Mechan1k** · 12-06-2007, 11:09 AM

Depends on the actual degree of incline/decline ... there's a fixed speed camera on a hill at Kurrajong Heights, NSW.

No matter how much engine braking you do ... you still need to brake through it to maintain the speed limit.

sfr rob · 12-06-2007, 11:09 AM

what the bloody hell are opens?!!#@%^@$^

**Mechan1k** · 12-06-2007, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sfr rob

what the bloody hell are opens?!!#@%^@$^

I am presuming unrestricted/Silver Licence.

flappist · 12-06-2007, 01:26 PM

My favorite stupid place for a speed sign/enforcement is Main St in Urraween on the southern side of ghost hill. There have been a number of fatalities on the top and northern sides where there are side roads and residences so a 60km limit has been prescribed.
The southern side is bush with no access and when travelling north drops about 10 metres and the rises sharply 60 metres to the top of the hill.

This road is used by trucks as well as cars.

The silly part is that rather than put the 60km/h sign at or near the top of the hill so vehicles could use natural inertia to roll up the hill and slow down using gravity thereby using less fuel, creating less pollution and less brake wear. The 60km/h sign is just before the initial drop.
So you have to brake from 100km/h and then continue to brake down a hill then immediately change down several gears, and I even had to go back to 3rd in my GT-P, to climb the hill. Heavy trucks have problems here often slowing to 10-20km/h and therefore blocking the second most used entry road to the city.

It is a popular lidar location and as every Queensland knows, every K over is a dollar...ah I mean killer......