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Old 22-12-2005, 11:28 AM   #1
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Apparently Toyota are buying out Holden Aus...

LEXCENS HERE WE COME lol

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Old 22-12-2005, 11:41 AM   #2
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And you have this on good authority????

Spill the beans, where did the "goss" spill from?
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Old 22-12-2005, 11:46 AM   #3
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Hmmm welcome back the Viva nameplate, and now the Lexcen and the Nova...

Though i'd believe it when I see it.
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Old 22-12-2005, 11:50 AM   #4
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a mates doing some part time work at toyota and ye,

looks like the local gmh subsidiary needs abit of a helping hand
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Old 22-12-2005, 11:52 AM   #5
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Hee hee .... also the Appollo as well ... can't forget that either.
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Old 22-12-2005, 12:02 PM   #6
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lexcens my favourite, neighbour across the road has an appolo its so funny, its on gas and it sounds like a toycar with its 1" exhaust lol
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Old 22-12-2005, 12:08 PM   #7
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Well thats just great now Holdens are going to be rice pieces of poo.

Glad I have one that isnt japanese well apart from the drivetrain.
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What a crock, when Holden is the most profitable of Aussie carmakers....
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Old 22-12-2005, 12:15 PM   #9
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Nice to see that such a huge story that would be front page news is known by a guy that works there part-time.


GM just increased Holdens design funding (due to the good work they done for the efijay) so I don't think GM would want to get rid of a profitable part of their business.
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Old 22-12-2005, 12:19 PM   #10
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um, what about

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=30862

and the out selling falcon range , including the territory

and whats the deal with the "staff" discount etc....
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Old 22-12-2005, 12:22 PM   #11
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No. You guys have all got it wrong. Hyundai is buying them out :hihi:
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Old 22-12-2005, 12:24 PM   #12
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gen3 in an excel CANT WAIT!
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Old 22-12-2005, 12:27 PM   #13
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Or a Sonata engine in a Calais :yeees:
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i very much doubt this to be true
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A Friend of a Friends counsins, sisters, babysitter told me on good authority that Lada are purchasing FORD...Looks like improvements all rounds for the BLUE OVAL...
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A Friend of a Friends counsins, sisters, babysitter told me on good authority that Lada are purchasing FORD...Looks like improvements all rounds for the BLUE OVAL...
Ford will finally be able to break into that eastern European market!!
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reminds me of that simpsons episode " put it in "H""
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What a crock, when Holden is the most profitable of Aussie carmakers....
Holden are not the most profitable car maker... they make LESS margin on new vehicle sales than Ford Aus achieve. Fact.

Sure Holden sell more cars, but this does not result in greater profitability.

And as for take over by Toyo, surely this is BS. Imagine the media coverage ....
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looks like the local gmh subsidiary needs abit of a helping hand
I think your mates are confusing themselves with this:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...302825263.html

Holden is one of the most successful and profitable subsiduaries of GM in the world. Any suggestion of a takeover by Toyota is absolutely laughable.
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Old 22-12-2005, 03:48 PM   #20
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I think your mates are confusing themselves with this:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...302825263.html

Holden is one of the most successful and profitable subsiduaries of GM in the world. Any suggestion of a takeover by Toyota is absolutely laughable.
It can be as profitable as it wants. If Toyota really wanted to buy Holden, it wouldn't be an issue for them. They have enough money to buy all of General Motors Corporation or Ford Motor Company in one hit.

Now, are they really going to buy Holden? I seriously doubt it.
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I think your mates are confusing themselves with this:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...302825263.html

Holden is one of the most successful and profitable subsiduaries of GM in the world. Any suggestion of a takeover by Toyota is absolutely laughable.
Wouldn't be real difficult given that General Motors trading stock has been classed as "junk" more recently. They have had their credit rating lowered again and are periously close to going under for good.

Toyo could by not just buy Holden, but all of GM if they wanted... not that any pre purchase due dilligence would convince them that it was a good idea !
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if that happened i will be buying an xr6t.....but lets pray toyota dont buy holden
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but lets pray toyota dont buy holden
There is no need to pray, it simply won't happen. It is just something somebody dreamed up to stir sh1t.
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And what is wrong with Toyota in the 1st place, if this is true and Toyota purchase Holden, I for one will have no problem with it, infact if it does happen we will probably see Holden in a much better posistion to take the fight up to Ford in all segment's, ie small car, medium and large and let's not forget the SUV's, Toyota are in a very strong posistion in Aust, so people can not count them out, look at their performance side like Lexus and their contribution in F1.
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If your mate isn't having you on, then he would have just broken a confidentiality clause, and would be up the creek. I'm rather suspicious that a part timer would be privy to due diligence work for a takeover, usually the only parties privy to such information are the top echolons of the finance department, the auditor, the transaction/due diligence advisors, the laywers, a merchant bank and senior management.

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What difference would that make? Toyota make some of the best engines in the world. I'm sure they'd keep the v8 line going, hell they could even have a supply contract for Gen4s with GMH as part of the deal.

Rather a bit xenophobic for an already foreign controlled company aren't we?
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Lexus is not a performance arm. It's a luxury car. It originally stood for Luxury EXport US. It's simply grown into a world-wide prestige arm of Toyota. Fastest Lexus ever is the new IS350, and it's no sports car.
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Lexus is not a performance arm. It's a luxury car. It originally stood for Luxury EXport US. It's simply grown into a world-wide prestige arm of Toyota. Fastest Lexus ever is the new IS350, and it's no sports car.
You try telling a Lexus owner that. :
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0-60mph in 5.3 seconds? thats not too slow.
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You try telling a Lexus owner that. :

My Wife traded an IS200 for a Mazda6. Your point?
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My Wife traded an IS200 for a Mazda6. Your point?
Your wifes got a lead foot :hihi:

I had a mazda 6 for 2 weeks, one of the best cars i have driven and boy it had grunt, unfortunatuly i got the sh*ts with it after 2 weeks and got rid of it. My feet were too big for the small peddles. Kept hitting the gas when i meant to go for the brakes. :
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