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05-06-2013, 11:01 AM | #1 | ||
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Allow me to start the monthly VFACTS roundabout.
Ford Falcon 707 Ford Falcon Ute 462 Ford Fiesta 778 Ford Focus 1,536 Ford Kuga 468 Ford Mondeo 320 Ford Ranger 4X2 364 Ford Ranger 4X4 1,338 Ford Territory 1,139 Ford Transit 41 Ford Transit Bus 8 |
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05-06-2013, 11:19 AM | #2 | ||
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FG2 may end up being a collectors item.
Sad sad times.
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05-06-2013, 11:37 AM | #3 | ||
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2308 total Falcon platform...
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05-06-2013, 12:24 PM | #4 | ||
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Thank God some FACTS in the first post of a VFACTS there - kudos to you
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05-06-2013, 12:25 PM | #5 | ||
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Territory is its own platform and shares components with Falcon.
2308 cars for the month including down days works out to what, 110 cars/day? I thought it was supposed to be 148 cars/day?? Unless I've added up something wrong.
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05-06-2013, 12:32 PM | #6 | ||
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Plus 10 falcons and 10 Territorys to Nz!
Was 700 Falcon cars in April too wasn't it? Did Ford clamp supply to assist justifying their closure. Read another post saying Falc,s and Tezzas are not in stick at many Bris Ford dealers. |
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05-06-2013, 12:35 PM | #7 | ||
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Looking on the bright side, total sales are up 336 on last month
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05-06-2013, 12:38 PM | #8 | ||
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Kuga had a **** month considering how many demos got registered!!
Looks like CX5 is going to keep flying the flag in that market.
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05-06-2013, 12:38 PM | #9 | ||
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good to see Focus and Ranger continue to lead the way
Territory in another solid month. Fiesta outselling Falcon, never thought I'd see the day.
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05-06-2013, 12:49 PM | #10 | |||
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I doubt Ford were deliberately restricting stock. The reality is mainstream buyers aren't buying them; it is an enthusiast's niche car now, only someone who wants a Falcon is going to get one. Whilst there was an assertion that following the closure announcement there was a 'run' on dealerships for Falcons, it will take some time for all this to filter through to actual sales.
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I thought that figure for the Fiesta was quite poor as well. With people going to small cars the Fiesta is not really setting the world on fire
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05-06-2013, 01:27 PM | #13 | ||
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What's up with the Mondeo? It's a great car and deserves more than 300 sales.
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05-06-2013, 01:31 PM | #14 | ||
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05-06-2013, 01:32 PM | #16 | ||
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New Mondeo cann't come quick enough...late 2014>2015 new model ????? thats too far away...
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05-06-2013, 02:16 PM | #17 | ||
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Not sure about the demos, but surely it's an improvement on the Escape!
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05-06-2013, 02:22 PM | #18 | ||
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Ford couldnt justify closing the plant if Falcon did too well. They aren't even trying anymore.
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05-06-2013, 02:28 PM | #19 | ||
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I can assure you all that ford would be clamping sales. How can you convince someone to buy a Falcon on the day when you dont have any stock and the Holden and Toyota Dealers have 1 in every colour at a discount price. Ford dont want to have excess stock sitting around which ends up being old plated which leads to having to heavilly discount. Than they have to cover warranty costs for the next 3 years on a car they made no money on which is shortly to be discontinued anyway. When i worked for Holden they would flood dealers with stock which made the dealers do whatever it took to clear the cars even if it meant not making 1 cent out of some cars. We regularly had Commodores having there 1st birthday with us only to end up selling them for like $10000 off. But you see we also sold lots of cars with margin in them as we had stock to sell and if a person was looking for a cheap car and didnt care what it was we could just flog them the oldest car on the lot which was a cheap as some used cars.
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05-06-2013, 03:03 PM | #20 | ||
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05-06-2013, 04:36 PM | #22 | ||
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Europcar bought about half of them
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05-06-2013, 05:02 PM | #23 | |||
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You could say the exact same thing for any car not in the top 10 for mthly VFACTS. |
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05-06-2013, 05:39 PM | #24 | ||
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http://www.caradvice.com.au/234295/n...ures-may-2013/
May 2013 Australian New Car Sales Figures 1 Toyota 19,003 2 Holden 8,293 3 Mazda 8,135 4 Hyundai 8,027 5 Ford 7,243 6 Mitsubishi 7,011 7 Nissan 5,928 8 Volkswagen 5,527 9 Honda 3,625 10 Subaru 3,612 11 Kia 2,770 12 Mercedes-Benz 2,373 13 Rolls-Royce 2066 14 Suzuki 1,919 15 BMW 1,703 16 Audi 1,361 17 Jeep 1,320 18 Morgan 1176 19 Isuzu 858 20 Great Wall 725 21 Land Rover 717 22 Renault 552 23 Lexus 540 24 Volvo 459 25 Peugeot 376 26 Fiat 329 27 Skoda 297 28 Chrysler 282 29 MINI 253 30 Opel 216 31 Porsche 145 32 Dodge 141 33 Ssangyong 131 34 Alfa Romeo 122 35 Citroen 102 36 Chery 84 37 Proton 84 38 Jaguar 76 39 Infiniti 37 40 Ferrari 23 41 Smart 19 42 Maserati 14 43 Aston Martin 13 44 Bentley 7 45 Lotus 5 46 McLaren 4 47 Lamborghini 2 48 Caterham 0 49 Saab 0 (units sold – market share) Light Car Segment Winners : Hyundai i20 (1,282 – 11.9%) Mazda2 (1,236 – 11.5%) Toyota Yaris (1,149 – 10.7%) Small Car Segment Winners: Toyota Corolla (3,640 – 17.8%) Mazda3 (3,054 – 15%) Hyundai i30 (2,512 – 12.3%) Medium Car Segment Winners: Toyota Camry (1,934 – 38.3%) BMW 3 Series (528 – 33.6% of medium car segment over 60k) Mercedes-Benz C-Class (523 – 33.3% of medium car segment over 60k) Large Car Segment Winners: Holden Commodore (1,647 – 47.8%) Ford Falcon (707 – 20.5%) Toyota Aurion (632 – 18.3%) Upper Large Car Segment Winners: Chrysler 300 (257 – 89.5% of upper large under 100k) Holden Caprice (30 – 10.5% of upper large under 100k) BMW 7 Series/Jaguar XJ (10 – 22.2% of upper large over 100k) People Mover Segment Winners: Kia Carnival (286 – 41.4%) Toyota Tarago (103 – 14.9%) Hyundai iMax (92 – 13.3%) Sports Segment Winners: Toyota 86 (582 – 32.4%) Hyundai Veloster (347 – 19.3%) Mercedes-Benz C-Class Coupe (202 – 11.3%) Supercars (200k+) Segment Winners: BMW 6 Series (26 – 19.3%) Ferrari (23 – 17%) Mercedes-Benz SL-Class (22 – 16.3%) SUV Small Segment Winners: Hyundai ix35 (1,770 – 30.4%) Nissan Dualis (1,176 – 20.2%) Subaru XV (851 – 14.6%) SUV Medium Segment Winners: Mazda CX-5 (1,773 – 17.2%) Mitsubishi Outlander (1,652 – 16%) Toyota RAV4 (1,454 – 14.1%) SUV Large Segment Winners: Toyota Prado (1,499 – 17%) Ford Territory (1,139 – 12.9%) Holden Captiva 7 (1,086 – 12.3%) SUV Upper Large Segment Winners: Toyota Landcruiser Wagon (854 -80.9%) Nissan Patrol Wagon (201 – 19.1%) Pickup 4×2 Segment Winners Toyota Hilux 4×2 (929 – 23.6%) Mitsubishi Triton 4×2 (477 – 12.1%) Mazda BT-50 4×2 (464 – 11.8%) Pickup 4×4 Segment Winners Toyota Hilux 4×4 (2,737 – 22.7%) Mitsubishi Triton (2,129 – 17.6%) Nissan Navara (1,388 – 11.5%) |
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05-06-2013, 05:46 PM | #25 | ||
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I wonder just how many of those 700 Falcon sales were in fact high
series I-6 Turbos and V8s, would it be ridiculous to suggest 280-300? |
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05-06-2013, 05:47 PM | #26 | ||
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How many Roller's!!!!!!
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05-06-2013, 05:49 PM | #27 | ||
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05-06-2013, 05:51 PM | #28 | ||
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Rolls Royce?
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05-06-2013, 05:54 PM | #29 | ||
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Well last month (April) was just over 60% wasn't it?
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05-06-2013, 06:03 PM | #30 | ||
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Rolls Royce cant be right, they sold 20 in 2011.
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