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Old 15-06-2006, 10:40 PM   #1
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Don't know if anyone is interested, but we have new trailers coming online where I work. I will be getting a set, as will 4 other drivers. And Scania R580's will do the chugging. A bit harder to back than a normal double, and West Swanston Dock is all backing to be loaded. They will be mass managed and gross weight will be 109,000kgs.

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Old 15-06-2006, 11:34 PM   #2
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I'd love to see some of the haulers at my old job at Freo Container Depo back those babies in. They had enough problems with just a 40 and a 20!
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Old 15-06-2006, 11:35 PM   #3
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I cant even back a 6 by 4 trailer he he he

Thats insane and the Scania is a nice chugger.....
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wish you the best of luck :eclipsee_ redfin
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Old 15-06-2006, 11:54 PM   #5
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Nar, I back a B double about 8 times a shift 6 days a week, these are only 4 mtrs longer. Just need a little more room to swing.
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awww common tis a b dobble ntr roadtrain n there long trailers eazy

throw anouther two "A" trailers on the front : and may be a swing lifter as well some where along the line so you cant see the rear trailors when backing : and then we might have some fun : then do it all at nite
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Should be some nice tyre scrubbing from those quad axles on the turns
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Old 16-06-2006, 09:15 AM   #8
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so what they are to carry 2 40s are they???
havent FORD now got a couple of triples out at there yard in Camblefield???
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Should be some nice tyre scrubbing from those quad axles on the turns
The last axle is actually a steering axle. There isn’t any more scrubbing than a regular tri axle with an 8 foot 6 inch spread.

These are actually easier to reverse than a regular 25 metre B-double. It’s all to do with the axle spacing. The hardest B-double combination to reverse is actually a 19 metre combination. The two smaller trailers tend to turn on an axis faster then you can correct or to counteract their movement. It’s all to do with very slow movement of the steering wheel when reversing.

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Should be some nice tyre scrubbing from those quad axles on the turns
The quad and tri have a steerable rear, giving around the same cut in as a double, if not better. Just have to lock them before reversing.
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Old 16-06-2006, 10:36 AM   #11
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so what they are to carry 2 40s are they???
havent FORD now got a couple of triples out at there yard in Camblefield???
Yeah mate, 2 x 40 or 4 x 20. Yep, Ford have been running triples for a few years now, and they don't have to back them at either end. Campbellfield and Geelong are both drive through. They are only light by comparison though, having no tri's.
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Old 16-06-2006, 10:40 AM   #12
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Old 16-06-2006, 10:41 AM   #13
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These are actually easier to reverse than a regular 25 metre B-double. It’s all to do with the axle spacing. The hardest B-double combination to reverse is actually a 19 metre combination. The two smaller trailers tend to turn on an axis faster then you can correct or to counteract their movement. It’s all to do with very slow movement of the steering wheel when reversing.

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Absolutely correct on all points. Small corrections and a liesurely pace will do it. I watch many other guys struggling and getting frustrated, throwing the wheel around and trying to chase it. Comical sometimes. But ones needs entertainment now and then. _2:
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Don't know if anyone is interested, but we have new trailers coming online where I work. I will be getting a set, as will 4 other drivers. And Scania R580's will do the chugging. A bit harder to back than a normal double, and West Swanston Dock is all backing to be loaded. They will be mass managed and gross weight will be 109,000kgs.
I'm in and out of West Swanson most days and watching you guys having to back the trailers in to be loaded seems pretty rediculous to me!!!
Good luck with that.
They look like EXTRA colours. Do you deliver to the CEF in Enterprize Rd by any chance?

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they look awesome....
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What do you cart in the containers.

They look prett good, im guessing they would be more stable then the standard b double combination.
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Old 16-06-2006, 02:57 PM   #17
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I'm in and out of West Swanson most days and watching you guys having to back the trailers in to be loaded seems pretty rediculous to me!!!
Good luck with that.
They look like EXTRA colours. Do you deliver to the CEF in Enterprize Rd by any chance?

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Yep Extra colours indeed. And Yep deliver to CEF, will be on the job tomorrow.
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Old 16-06-2006, 02:59 PM   #18
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What do you cart in the containers.

They look prett good, im guessing they would be more stable then the standard b double combination.
We just cart the containers, I have no idea what I'm carting most of the time. :monkes:
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Old 16-06-2006, 05:23 PM   #19
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sounds like a fun job any extra training for these jiggers needed
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I hear the new southbound heavy vehicle station being built on the F3 (NSW) will be able to cater for B triples. Thats not to say B triples will run on the F3 but anyone who's spent any time on that bit of road will no doubt be a little suprised!
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Old 16-06-2006, 08:03 PM   #21
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Easy.......
something that size, point and shoot.
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sounds like a fun job any extra training for these jiggers needed
Nar not for truck, just an MC licence. But 109 tonne needs mass management course.
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Nar not for truck, just an MC licence. But 109 tonne needs mass management course.
109 n ova but still ain that hard if ya just a stering wheel atendent :eclipsee_ ( neva have to reverse )
you dont cart containers from the ford building facility dous ya ???? or just general container work ??
had some one from ova sea's apply for a road train job the other day , the boss took him out to the truck n left him 1 hr out of town all he had to do was bring it back coz it was loaded the boss had other things to do so left him there , he rang the boss 2 hrs latter n said how you start this vehical n wheres the tracks ( road train he recond he was goina drive trains )
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Our cranky storeman would fill his pants at the sight of one of those pulling into our depot.
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Old 17-06-2006, 12:04 PM   #25
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sweet. i have heard whispers of setups like this for a while now.
after seeing the FCL guys with the quad skels with the front and rear lift axles, its good to see this in a full combination.

Ford have had the B-triples for ages now.

everyone i have talked to about RT work, have liked the b-triple+dolly and 40ft rear. said they track much better.

that said, for round town, give me my single any day.
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I have enough trouble reversing with a normal box trailer let alone one of those monsters!! :
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Old 17-06-2006, 12:12 PM   #27
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don't mean to hijack your thread, but i wanna see someone back this !

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LED lighting on these?
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would be fun to back up, tho i know a guy who would probably do it quite happily....

watched him back onto the dolly of his dog trailer one night, straight into the ringfeder

not special till you consider it was on a bush road, around a corner and the only clue he had as to what was where was me shining a torch on the lead tyres of the dolly
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