New 1969 Boss Mustang

[rjk74]

http://www.thedrive.com/news/20256/y...stang-boss-429

[csv8]

Originally Posted by rjk74

http://www.thedrive.com/news/20256/y...stang-boss-429

Lotto !!!!

[Vesper Martini]

Surely restored/replica cars - not new.
how would they meet todays emissions and ancap safety?

they look great, but call it what it is.

[rjk74]

https://www.classic-recreations.com/

[Wretched]

Dream car...

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

Surely restored/replica cars - not new.
how would they meet todays emissions and ancap safety?

they look great, but call it what it is.

Yep replica, but some are all brandspankingnew

Big business in the US, there's a few building them here's another....

https://revologycars.com/car/1968-mu...t-22-fastback/

http://www.dynacorn.com/Catalog.aspx

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by DJR-351

Yep replica, but some are all brandspankingnew

Big business in the US, there's a few building them here's another....

https://revologycars.com/car/1968-mu...t-22-fastback/

http://www.dynacorn.com/Catalog.aspx

Very nice, but wheres the brand spanking new cars?

[marty351]

Are blueprint crate motors supplying engines for them?

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

Very nice, but wheres the brand spanking new cars?

Read the blurb, it says it all in there, the ones in my post are neither restored or rebuilds, they are all new build cars built under licence.....

[Vesper Martini]

We all know not to take blurbs or headlines seriously theses days. don't we?

These Beautiful cars are built in a workshop not a new car production line to me it doesn't matter if its a new crate motor trans put into a newly built chassis its a restore.

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

We all know not to take blurbs or headlines seriously theses days. don't we?

These Beautiful cars are built in a workshop not a new car production line to me it doesn't matter if its a new crate motor trans put into a newly built chassis its a restore.

Lol. You can only restore something if it already exists, even if you started of with only a wheel nut you could say you are restoring but everything on these is new, they are a new reproduction built under license from Ford, nothing like a restoration, just cause they are built to order and not rolling down a production line means diddly

[solarite_guy]

Right, they are continuations. They even get a vehicle identification number which is a continuation from when they were running off an assembly line.

[Bossxr8]

I'd assume they are able to be registered in the US?

Cause they can't be registered here.

[solarite_guy]

People are doing it. There is even one at the shop I am doing some R&D for, but having not done it personally, I don't know all the details involved.

[Vesper Martini]

"Each one will be built to customer specifications, using the basis of an original 1969 or 1970 Mustang body, though there will also be the option for a brand-new body licensed by Ford."

meaning they will be built using an existing used body as the cost of the Brand new one would be too extravagant. think about it.

Anyway there are places here building fantastic rebuilt mustangs
here's one in Hallam VIC Ive seen one of their Eleanors on the road - magnificent
http://classic-musclecars.com.au/

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

"Each one will be built to customer specifications, using the basis of an original 1969 or 1970 Mustang body, though there will also be the option for a brand-new body licensed by Ford."

In that respect then, they are like the 500KRs that Shelby American has put out recently which also get continuation VINs. Not sure how that is done? (I can't open that 69 - 70 website, it blows off the tab every time I try to open it).

Outfits like Superformance build GT40s, Cobras and Corvettes from scratch under license which get continuation VINs.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by solarite_guy

In that respect then, they are like the 500KRs that Shelby American has put out recently which also get continuation VINs. Not sure how that is done? (I can't open that 69 - 70 website, it blows off the tab every time I try to open it).

Outfits like Superformance build GT40s, Cobras and Corvettes from scratch under license which get continuation VINs.

that's just It I cant see how the new panels are done, it requires stamping machines and expensive tooling.

I think in comparison the reproduced GT40s, Cobras and Vettes have simple bodies maybe fibreglass? mounted onto space frame like chassis

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

"Each one will be built to customer specifications, using the basis of an original 1969 or 1970 Mustang body, though there will also be the option for a brand-new body licensed by Ford."

meaning they will be built using an existing used body as the cost of the Brand new one would be too extravagant. think about it.

Anyway there are places here building fantastic rebuilt mustangs
here's one in Hallam VIC Ive seen one of their Eleanors on the road - magnificent
http://classic-musclecars.com.au/

In respect to the business that i refereed to, whats to think about?? they have already built plenty of new ones for clients!! nothing extravagant about it at all, if someone has the money and it's what they want then they buy it, in my book extravagance is only if you can't afford it.....

[Raptor]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

... it requires stamping machines and expensive tooling.

That's correct. That's what they have.

Here's their '67 Stang - all fresh sheet metal.

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

that's just It I cant see how the new panels are done, it requires stamping machines and expensive tooling.

I think in comparison the reproduced GT40s, Cobras and Vettes have simple bodies maybe fibreglass? mounted onto space frame like chassis

Look at the Mustang catalogue i linked to, every panel, chassis, sub-frame and part required is built......... thought you had already looked?

http://www.dynacorn.com/Catalog.aspx >> MUSTANG

[Vesper Martini]

ok.. explain to me how they build a new 1969 Mustang bodyshell? surely the cost would be ridiculous

[solarite_guy]

These folks will sell you one for $18,499 USD.

https://www.cjponyparts.com/dynacorn...k-1969/p/69FB/

[solarite_guy]

This talks about the Superformance rolled steel bodies:

http://www.hillbankusa.com/content/superformance-gt40

SUPERFORMANCE GT40


A quality re-creation of the original that beat Ferrari and finished in the top three positions in the grueling Le Mans 24 Hours in 1966. In developing the exhilarating GT40 continuation, engineers went to great lengths to ensure authenticity. So authentic, that we can legally use the name “GT40”. The GT40 also carries the GT40/P chassis number and is eligible for the official GT40 registry.

The GT40 continuation is built to exacting standards - in fact over two thirds of the rolling chassis's parts are interchangeable with that of an original car, including the 'monocoque" style chassis.

The Superformance GT40 also boasts of a pressed steel roof and beautifully finished body. Current models offered are the MKI and MKII which are available in right and left hand drive.

Add your choice of power (big or small block ) with a ZF/RBT transaxle, and prepare yourself for extreme satisfaction and the ultimate in styling.

The Corvettes will be fiberglass, as that is what is proper for a Corvette body.

[RANGEREST]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

ok.. explain to me how they build a new 1969 Mustang bodyshell? surely the cost would be ridiculous

They're new body shells, no matter how ridiculous you may think it is. Read the links provided.

[XByoot]

Originally Posted by solarite_guy

These folks will sell you one for $18,499 USD.

https://www.cjponyparts.com/dynacorn...k-1969/p/69FB/

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That’s pretty good value in the big scheme of things! Are they the Dynacorn bodies? Pay shop rates over here for a full body resto to get your average 50 year old car even close to this and you’ll be paying significantly more than that. The aftermarket business for these cars is so huge I’m sure there is practically every part available for a brand new Mustang. Plus the added advantage of doing your own individual build without sacrificing an original survivor car if that’s the direction you want to go in. The market is certainly here for certain OZ car body parts, they sell pretty well and are usually decent things, so who knows, one day with the popularity of the Falcon Coupes even in the states we may see a new XB hardtop shell...but I won’t hold my breath! Personally I think the 69/70 Mustang was the iconic shape and just looks plain and simple spot on from every angle. I can see the business reason for a all new shell... as for that GT40, purely iconic. The shape still holds up against any modern supercar, actually it beats them hands down! But that’s what the GT40 always did!

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by XByoot

...as for that GT40, purely iconic. The shape still holds up against any modern supercar, actually it beats them hands down! But that’s what the GT40 always did!

Those GT40s with the John Wyre Gulf paint scheme are about as sexy as a car can be.

A red or yellow Ferarri P3 is in the same category.

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by XByoot

That’s pretty good value in the big scheme of things! Are they the Dynacorn bodies? Pay shop rates over here for a full body resto to get your average 50 year old car even close to this and you’ll be paying significantly more than that. The aftermarket business for these cars is so huge I’m sure there is practically every part available for a brand new Mustang. Plus the added advantage of doing your own individual build without sacrificing an original survivor car if that’s the direction you want to go in. The market is certainly here for certain OZ car body parts, they sell pretty well and are usually decent things, so who knows, one day with the popularity of the Falcon Coupes even in the states we may see a new XB hardtop shell...but I won’t hold my breath! Personally I think the 69/70 Mustang was the iconic shape and just looks plain and simple spot on from every angle. I can see the business reason for a all new shell... as for that GT40, purely iconic. The shape still holds up against any modern supercar, actually it beats them hands down! But that’s what the GT40 always did!

If I ever find myself in the position to build one, I'm not sure if I would go the direction of a 500cid "428CJ" Mach1 using a Shelby alloy block and Don Losito billet FE heads or a 370+ cid "Boss 302" with the better flowing SCM heads.

Always good to have dreams.

[XByoot]

Originally Posted by solarite_guy

If I ever find myself in the position to build one, I'm not sure if I would go the direction of a 500cid "428CJ" Mach1 using a Shelby alloy block and Don Losito billet FE heads or a 370+ cid "Boss 302" with the better flowing SCM heads.

Always good to have dreams.

They are very good dreams mate! I’d go the Boss!! When I rented that 2018 Stang last weekend and I enjoyed it, but I kept walking around it thinking of how to modify it. Don’t get me wrong, it looked good, but I like different.
It’s great to have dreams, keeps our minds active and our bank accounts empty!

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by XByoot

That’s pretty good value in the big scheme of things! Are they the Dynacorn bodies? Pay shop rates over here for a full body resto to get your average 50 year old car even close to this and you’ll be paying significantly more than that. The aftermarket business for these cars is so huge I’m sure there is practically every part available for a brand new Mustang. Plus the added advantage of doing your own individual build without sacrificing an original survivor car if that’s the direction you want to go in. The market is certainly here for certain OZ car body parts, they sell pretty well and are usually decent things, so who knows, one day with the popularity of the Falcon Coupes even in the states we may see a new XB hardtop shell...but I won’t hold my breath! Personally I think the 69/70 Mustang was the iconic shape and just looks plain and simple spot on from every angle. I can see the business reason for a all new shell... as for that GT40, purely iconic. The shape still holds up against any modern supercar, actually it beats them hands down! But that’s what the GT40 always did!

That was looked into some years ago, there's mention of it here somewhere in a distant thread, but unfortunately the guys pushing for it couldn't get no where near the numbers required to make it viable to have them built, that was through Dynacorn...

There's quite a few 'builders' in the US that will put together a new 60/70s Mustang and a few other 60's and 70's muscle cars for you, but i think Dynacorn pretty much supply all of them, i don't know of another, maybe solarite_guy does?

[solarite_guy]

I could be mistaken, but I think Dynacorn is everybodies supplier.