Overrated cars

Bossxr8 · 27-05-2020, 11:01 AM

Was watching wheeler dealers the other day and they were doing up an E type Jag. The car Enzo Ferrari called the most beautiful car in the world.

jag by , on Flickr

But i just don't get it. Sure it's not ugly, but most beautiful in the world? Not with that huge nose imo. Looks like a hot chick who would be a 10/10 if she didn't have such a big nose. So it got me thinking, which cars do you hear people talk about as being a beautiful car, but to you it just isn't?

I'd also add the Citroen DS to my list. To me it just looks silly.

ds by , on Flickr

And yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder etc, etc, etc.

nstg8a · 27-05-2020, 11:08 AM

Fd rx7.
One of the most timeless designs ever I reckon.

Au falcon... as good as they are I still fail to find them a good looking car lol .

Wretched · 27-05-2020, 11:09 AM

Overrated in looks? Subjective topic really.

Can't speak for the Jag, but the DS for it's time was way ahead of anything in terms of technology and design. Just look at other cars of 1955 and you can see why it still is talked about today.

**Polyal** · 27-05-2020, 11:09 AM

Definitely in the eye of the beholder, I would have both of them in a heart beat.

You can make most cars look good/bad depending on the angle and colour; some have no hope.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/...g?imwidth=1400

https://www.classicandsportscar.com/...?itok=u5x7lN-V

Bossxr8 · 27-05-2020, 11:27 AM

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Fd rx7.
One of the most timeless designs ever I reckon.

Au falcon... as good as they are I still fail to find them a good looking car lol .

The AU is starting to become overrated in looks by a select few. But let's be honest, most of the range was ugly as hell and time won't ever close that wound. 99% of the population will think the word ugly as soon as AU Falcon is mentioned.

There's only a few exceptions imo. The AU II and III XR's, FTE's and Ghia's with the full Tickford bodykit and wheels.

The AU Forte and Futura were shockers.

Bossxr8 · 27-05-2020, 11:41 AM

This early Bronco is highly regarded in the US. And forms the basis of the new Bronco due next year.

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But this model doesn't get much attention, but imo is the much better design. I really hope for the second generation of new Bronco they base the style on this model.

It's OJ Simpsons car too.

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Franco Cozzo · 27-05-2020, 12:14 PM

AU Falcon

**PG2** · 27-05-2020, 12:24 PM

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AU Falcon

I agree, they're ****. Nobody buy them, more for me and the other AU nutters out there.

As soon as I saw that you had posted I knew that is what you would say.

**Polyal** · 27-05-2020, 12:31 PM

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I agree, they're ****. Nobody buy them, more for me and the other AU nutters out there.

As soon as I saw that you had posted I knew that is what you would say.

I was waiting for Dual cabs.

Franco Cozzo · 27-05-2020, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PG2

I agree, they're ****. Nobody buy them, more for me and the other AU nutters out there.

As soon as I saw that you had posted I knew that is what you would say.

I got beaten to the punch though in the first reply

Hawkeye84 · 27-05-2020, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wretched

the DS for it's time was way ahead of anything in terms of technology and design. Just look at other cars of 1955 and you can see why it still is talked about today.

THIS! Couldn't have said it better myself.

smoo · 27-05-2020, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

This early Bronco is highly regarded in the US. And forms the basis of the new Bronco due next year.

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But this model doesn't get much attention, but imo is the much better design. I really hope for the second generation of new Bronco they base the style on this model.

It's OJ Simpsons car too.

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That Bronco is now on display at a crime museum in Eastern Tennessee.
But 200hp wheezer was never going to get him far.

I can’t say I’ve seen the fuss of the E types styling. I’ve likened it to the late ‘90s Tauraus in that it looks like a piece of plastic that has melted in the sun. From the same era I think the C2 and early chrome bumper ‘68-72 C3 Corvettes are better lookers. Just forget the horrid yank plastic interiors.

As for over rated. Any standard E30 3 Series BMW. I’ve owned a couple and I like them, but struggle to see the value these days. The lesser models have gained value on the back of the desirable & successful M3 and M325/325iS/325 Sport. The standard 325i goes good but most have open diff so that power spins one wheel when it’s most needed. The other engine spec 320i and 318i are asthmatic (to be fair, the 318 wasnt too bad for the 1980s and has gained a bad rep living in the shadow of the 2.5). E30 (and E34) suspension is an archaic set up compared to Mercedes W201 and W124 of the same era.

Also from the same era the build quality of Mercedes from the 1980s w126, 124 and 201 is a bit over rated or exaggerated. Yeah they are solid quality cars and probably the best of the era but interior plastics, vinyls and dash board are a bit mediocre considering the reputation they’ve gained. W126 susceptible to rust. Following models W140 S Class, R129 roadster and W210 E Class are built like brick ****houses in comparison. Better interior build, materials and good rust proofing. Have wrecked a few for parts, the 140 are a mission to pull apart, way over engineered. Too bad plastic cooling system components and enviro friendly wiring harnesses let them down.

70 series land cruiser. Before taking into account the offensive price and engine specs mirroring a 25 year old AU Falcon taxi. Anyone who’s had the misfortune to drive & live with one will know. If not they’re in denial.

Bossxr8 · 27-05-2020, 01:10 PM

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70 series land cruiser. Before taking into account the offensive price and engine specs mirroring a 25 year old AU Falcon taxi. Anyone who’s had the misfortune to drive & live with one will know. If not they’re in denial.

Fair call. They are tough and will handle a lot of punishment. But they would be an absolute pig of a thing to drive. Like a truck from the 70's.

**Polyal** · 27-05-2020, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by smoo

70 series land cruiser. Before taking into account the offensive price and engine specs mirroring a 25 year old AU Falcon taxi. Anyone who’s had the misfortune to drive & live with one will know. If not they’re in denial.

Surely the Toyota accountants are laughing all the way with that one.

Does show though, get it right, market it right and price doesn't have to be the deciding factor.

**X-AHH** · 27-05-2020, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The AU is starting to become overrated in looks by a select few. But let's be honest, most of the range was ugly as hell and time won't ever close that wound. 99% of the population will think the word ugly as soon as AU Falcon is mentioned.

There's only a few exceptions imo. The AU II and III XR's, FTE's and Ghia's with the full Tickford bodykit and wheels.

The AU Forte and Futura were shockers.

AU
Absolutely Ugly

**fordomatic** · 27-05-2020, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The AU is starting to become overrated in looks by a select few. But let's be honest, most of the range was ugly as hell and time won't ever close that wound. 99% of the population will think the word ugly as soon as AU Falcon is mentioned.

There's only a few exceptions imo. The AU II and III XR's, FTE's and Ghia's with the full Tickford bodykit and wheels.

The AU Forte and Futura were shockers.

I think AU's are the ugliest cars ever made by Ford. Look at them compared to every other model. The design is so out there, especially the XR models.

I just love how ugly they are and the comments you get for owning one. I get more thumbs up in my XR8 than I have in any other car i've ever owned. I think it's because they just stand out so much and are so recognisable and relatable to so many that remember them.

**FTE217** · 27-05-2020, 02:16 PM

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I think AU's are the ugliest cars ever made by Ford. Look at them compared to every other model. The design is so out there, especially the XR models.

I just love how ugly they are and the comments you get for owning one. I get more thumbs up in my XR8 than I have in any other car i've ever owned. I think it's because they just stand out so much and are so recognisable and relatable to so many that remember them.

nothing like being different and not part of the crowd !!!!
Rest are bahhhhhhh sheep

For Franco, Dual Cabs rule - anything with rotten electrics rule - AU ruling - whatever else you don't like rules

4vxc · 27-05-2020, 02:51 PM

The E-Type is definitely a car that looks 10 times better in the flesh

hayseed · 27-05-2020, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

This early Bronco is highly regarded in the US. And forms the basis of the new Bronco due next year.

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I agree, i simply Don't see the Attraction

b0son · 27-05-2020, 03:02 PM

I always thought most things coming from Tickford were overhyped....

naddis01 · 27-05-2020, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by smoo

70 series land cruiser. Before taking into account the offensive price and engine specs mirroring a 25 year old AU Falcon taxi. Anyone who’s had the misfortune to drive & live with one will know. If not they’re in denial.

I was coming in to say, anything Landcruiser but it looks like I've been beaten to the punch.

Pis-ton broke · 27-05-2020, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Was watching wheeler dealers the other day and they were doing up an E type Jag. The car Enzo Ferrari called the most beautiful car in the world.

i,m a big fan of the e type, and that its long bonnet is good looking to me. and this style has been copied over the years.

although the lamborghini countach is an attractive car, they say its a pig of a thing to drive.

**Polyal** · 27-05-2020, 03:47 PM

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I always thought most things coming from Tickford were overhyped....

Not at all, they just came in at a time when the powertrains were not up to speed sans 5.6L.

You will find most of the early FPV/Barra parts have tickford logos.

Imagine if the barra was around during AU, or that the 5.6L happened during T1/2.

Sprintey · 27-05-2020, 03:50 PM

Within the Falcons the Tickfords are probably the best balanced drivers' cars.
If anything, underrated.

b0son · 27-05-2020, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Not at all, they just came in at a time when the powertrains were not up to speed sans 5.6L.

I'm more talking EF/EL era onward. I felt like they could have done so much more.

Sprintey · 27-05-2020, 03:57 PM

I'm trying to think of 'overrated' - a tough one as so subjective with looks etc. And not just saying a car is overrated as you don't like it, for eg with dual cabs I'm no fan of them, but plenty are, they are a good compromise between work/family/load/offroad so they probably sell for a reason.

Going back, only thing that immediately pops up is VT Commodore vs the poor AU. On sales, perception, looks, VT conquered. On the substance behind it, AU had the engineering quality while things like the Commodore IRS needed the VXII upgrades from the start. But VT was marketed so well (interior choices, ride choice, pitched with a bit of special for everyday people user-choosing their work car etc) and AU so... ordinarily... that in respect of how they were built, the VT was overrated.

Edit: a modern example, the Hilux/Prado 2.8DPF that could lay a smokescreen like a WW2 destroyer. Hasn't seem to affected the resale, or the reliability perception.

Sprintey · 27-05-2020, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by b0son

I'm more talking EF/EL era onward. I felt like they could have done so much more.

They were definitely on a good thing EBII - ED

hayseed · 27-05-2020, 05:22 PM

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Edit: a modern example, the Hilux/Prado 2.8DPF that could lay a smokescreen like a WW2 destroyer. Hasn't seem to affected the resale, or the reliability perception.

^^^^^ Now We're talking overrated..

**DJR-351** · 27-05-2020, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by smoo

70 series land cruiser. Before taking into account the offensive price and engine specs mirroring a 25 year old AU Falcon taxi. Anyone who’s had the misfortune to drive & live with one will know. If not they’re in denial.

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Originally Posted by naddis01

I was coming in to say, anything Landcruiser but it looks like I've been beaten to the punch.

Unfortunately for you guys history (and the present) will show you will always remain in the minority.....

Franco Cozzo · 27-05-2020, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DJR-351

Unfortunately for you guys history (and the present) will show you will always remain in the minority.....

Just because something is popular it doesn't mean its good

I was going to put eGas Falcon on the list but you probably can't say its 'overrated' because everyone knows mixer ring LPG setups are the devil