More income, bigger fines !!

Olympus · 17-01-2005, 07:35 PM

I was just watching ACA on channel 9.
Besides the cute story they did on the conjoined twins, they also said the government is thinking about implementing a new system where wealthier people get fined three times as much as people that earn under $30.000 per year.
A speeding fine for a poor person will be $75 and for a person that earns more than $30.000 (wealthy, yeah right!) it'll be $385 !!!

I personally think this system is bullshit and I think that everyone should pay the same amount of money for the same fine given for the same violation of the law.

What are your views ?

Psycho Chicken · 17-01-2005, 07:37 PM

People earning over $30k a year are high income?

Yeah....ok....

Olympus · 17-01-2005, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

People earning over $30k a year are high income?

Yeah....ok....

Exactly ! So basically everybody's gonna pay bigtime !!!

pepsimax · 17-01-2005, 07:51 PM

it's just another bullshit way of the government getting more money and trying to justify it

lv619 · 17-01-2005, 07:52 PM

cool, that means all P platers get a discount on speeding fines... where do i sign up?!?

Olympus · 17-01-2005, 07:53 PM

Not if your a P plater that makes more than $30.000 !

RED_EL_XR8 · 17-01-2005, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympus

Exactly ! So basically everybody's gonna pay bigtime !!!

No Kerrie & Jamie only earn $1 each per annum.

**Peuty** · 17-01-2005, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympus

Not if your a P plater that makes more than $30.000 !

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

/me gains composure

Casper · 17-01-2005, 08:25 PM

Hmm, looks like the road nazi state governements have gone from totally out of touch to completely over the top.

I can see a major party change in a few states next time around the merry go round.

Gabbs · 17-01-2005, 08:28 PM

What a joke 30k a year is nothing these days. Nice way to try and make more money though.

RED_EL_XR8 · 17-01-2005, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper

Hmm, looks like the road nazi state governements have gone from totally out of touch to completely over the top.

I can see a major party change in a few states next time around the merry go round.

You should have heard the goat that was proposing this, he was on ABC radio this AM. When questioned whether it would be difficult to determine poeples income, his reply was no problem it would be set based on the vehicle's market value. I nearly baffed my Mars bar at that one.

re: The Party changes, if they dont come soon I can see an increase in the publics desire to import automatic weapons.

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pauly85 · 17-01-2005, 08:31 PM

$30K nothing these days?

i WAS damn proud of my $14K last financial year lol

galaxy xr8 · 17-01-2005, 08:32 PM

This is typical pollitic's, it's bullshit, so what next, if I murdered someone and was over $30g a yr, I'd get life but if I was a doll plugging **** I'd get off scot free, what a joke.

Sylox · 17-01-2005, 08:36 PM

lmao love to see them try to live on our super high income of between 30k - 40k what a joke. Enjoy your 6 figure incomes and whilst your at it tax the average workers to hell and then add some more and if they break the speed limmit by1kph better slap a heap more tax (read fine) on that as well cause hell you need more revenue you just gave 2.1billion away

Its all about the revenue nothing more nothing less. wouldnt be to bad if it went back into the poorly maintained roads....

Psycho Chicken · 17-01-2005, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RED_EL_XR8

You should have heard the goat that was proposing this, he was on ABC radio this AM. When questioned whether it would be difficult to determine poeples income, his reply was no problem it would be set based on the vehicle's market value. I nearly baffed my Mars bar at that one.

So I have to get busted speeding in work's 1984 Sherpa rather than a MY05 STi WRX? Got it.

Olympus · 17-01-2005, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

So I have to get busted speeding in work's 1984 Sherpa rather than a MY05 STi WRX? Got it.

LMAO

It's bullshit isn't it, shouldn't we all be treated equally as motorists ? Damn stealth tax revenue !! :jab:

Dodge · 17-01-2005, 08:43 PM

so next time i speed i show a old tax income assesment and im off on a discount ,what about rape ??? kiddn

You Yangs · 17-01-2005, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympus

I was just watching ACA on channel 9.
Besides the cute story they did on the conjoined twins, they also said the government is thinking about implementing a new system where wealthier people get fined three times as much as people that earn under $30.000 per year.
A speeding fine for a poor person will be $75 and for a person that earns more than $30.000 (wealthy, yeah right!) it'll be $385 !!!

I personally think this system is bullshit and I think that everyone should pay the same amount of money for the same fine given for the same violation of the law.

What are your views ?

Did you pay attention in school?
They said people earning over $100,000 would pay $385, people earning an average wage would pay the standard $125 & people earning under $30,000 would pay $75. It works on a sliding scale just like taxation.

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Psycho Chicken · 17-01-2005, 08:56 PM

AH HA! Proof it is just another tax!

Olympus · 17-01-2005, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by You Yangs

Did you pay attention in school?
They said people earning over $100,000 would pay $385, people earning an average wage would pay the standard $125 & people earning under $30,000 would pay $75. It works on a sliding scale just like taxation.

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Oops ! Well I did get distracted by my phone whilst watching it.

None the less, I am more outraged about the fact that people that earn more money, get bigger fines.
Just because people make $100.000 a year doesn't mean they don't care about getting speeding fines.
People with a higher income normally have higher expenses too, it's just bullshit that the goverment takes more advantage of them. Wealthier people already pay more taxes for christ sake.

Bucknaked · 17-01-2005, 09:08 PM

It will be too hard to manage.

We all earn different incomes. Our situations are all different. What if the 30,000 guy is debt free and has no obligations, yet the 100,000 a year guy has 6 children, 4 different child support cases and is wearing debt from a bad marriage, and is on the edge of bankruptsy.. Who's to say the 100,000 is in any better of a position to pay the larger fines, than the guy earning the 30,000

Its too unfair.

XR Martin · 17-01-2005, 09:08 PM

I think they do this in Finland, I remember some rich guy got fined something like $20,000 for speeding!

Casper · 17-01-2005, 09:09 PM

Its just another tax, the sooner we get rid of these morons the better. That goes for shows like ACA too. Tossers.

AUsome · 17-01-2005, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper

Its just another tax, the sooner we get rid of these morons the better. That goes for shows like ACA too. Tossers.

so so VERY TRUE!

I think it's the stupidest idea ever. So what about the speeding fine I got Wednesday in the work van? They have no idea how much I would earn because they don't know anything about me. They gonna ask me "hey umm what car do you drive?"

loxxr6 · 17-01-2005, 09:23 PM

I think they do this in Finland, I remember some rich guy got fined something like $20,000 for speeding!

You're definately right on that one. I remember an article on it. We wouldn't be the first country to introduce this then.

pauljh74 · 17-01-2005, 09:28 PM

It's really just a way for the authorities to raise more money if it is implemented - the Vic govt has already stated it doesn't support this proposal.

It would work out just like the recent revisions to the way house rates are calculated - saying it is "fairer". All it does is make some people pay less, but the majority get shafted.

Tote · 17-01-2005, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

I think they do this in Finland, I remember some rich guy got fined something like $20,000 for speeding!

Yeah but in Scandanavian countries they also have free health care and education.
I heard this idiot on triple J this afternoon also and he started talking about verifying income using tax returns etc, this would be pretty difficult to implement given that it would mean tying in state govt systems to the feds. NSW has ruled it out as they are planning an overhaul of the fine, er, revenue system in March.
Must be a slow news day if this peanut gets so much media coverage. All he needs to do is get Harold Scruby and the AMA onside and he'll get more coverage than the Iraq war.
regards,
Tote

pauljh74 · 17-01-2005, 09:47 PM

Harold Scruby would be up for a bit extra if it was based on car values - he drives a Merc or BMW doesn't he?

SpoolMan · 17-01-2005, 10:20 PM

Is this a Howard Government initiative or is the idea from the S.A. Government?
The reason i asked is Olympus is in S.A... not to sure if he is talking about his State or the Federal Government.
Looks like there all following Bracks..rip off the Motorist .
every State has a different amout of money for fines..

marcuss · 17-01-2005, 10:29 PM

Has ACA ever ran a story based on fact? Next week it will be interest rates then petrol prices then miracle weight loss products blah blah blah.
I would rather watch Neighbours.