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10-01-2018, 12:30 PM | #1 | ||
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-bullying.html
This is a shocking story, and I mean that literally! My deepest and sincerest condolences to 'Dolly's' parents, family and friends. Every parent out there needs to stand up and take responsibility for what their kids are doing and saying to others on line. If you don't know what your kids are up to, it is YOUR responsibility to make sure that they are not part of the problem. Instill courtesy and respect in your kids. It is no one else's responsibility than yours. And whilst my words may not mean much to a 14 year old, if you are being bullied, please remember there are a lot more people out there that respect and love you for who you are than the handful who choose to make themselves feel better by putting you down. If you need help, please, please, please talk to someone about it. This world will be a much worse off place without you! Whilst it can be a difficult step, please reach out to someone! If you do nothing else, please at least call one of the below numbers: Lifeline: 13 11 14 Kids Helpline: 1800 55 1800
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10-01-2018, 01:00 PM | #2 | ||
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Disgusting pigs who bullied her need to be held accountable!!
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10-01-2018, 01:28 PM | #3 | ||
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Rest in Peace.
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10-01-2018, 03:01 PM | #4 | ||
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Mutants on social media.
These social media organizations need better self monitoring and should take a degree of responsibility as well. They provide environments that are all too easily able to descend into a Lord of the Flies scenario on the internet. |
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10-01-2018, 03:44 PM | #5 | ||
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My condolences to the family & friends of Amy (Dolly), no child or person deserves to be subjected to any online evil like that.
Like previously mentioned, i hope & pray charges will be laid, sites also need to clamp down on this now before they become liable, this type of online activity needs government intervention to stop it now imo. cheers, Maka
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10-01-2018, 05:38 PM | #6 | ||
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That a 14 year old child with her whole life ahead of her felt her only way out was to kill herself is heart breaking. As a society this is what we have become.
Why any 14 year old has social media is beyond me. There is no good reason for them to have it. |
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10-01-2018, 06:08 PM | #7 | |||
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My rule was you will have freedom to 'watch what want and go where you feel like' when your 18 and or leave this family....notice I said family... not house. We were not bullyies, my wife and I had ground rules that were upheld and (most) times respected, we were touch but shared a lot of respect and love esp to our daughters. Now they are both in their 30's and families of their own AND putting the same ground rules down. Was it easy? Is it easy now for them? NO but love and attention to their childrens lives makes a huge difference. I was at one daughters house and heard one of her daughters friends say...."Wow I wish I had parents like yours, who knew what I was watching, talking to and doing."
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10-01-2018, 07:54 PM | #8 | |||
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Nevertheless, at tea tonight we had another discussion with her, based around this particular story. We re-iterated to her that, if she was being picked on, she should talk to someone about it. If that is not us, it could be either of her grandmothers, her school friends, a teacher, an auntie or uncle, or even one of the help-lines in my original post. We also discussed with her about how the people who were picking on Dolly would now feel, and how she would handle that if it was her. We made it perfectly clear to her that any of that sort of behaviour is not, and never will be, acceptable and that if we found out about it, there would be consequences.
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11-01-2018, 07:20 AM | #9 | ||
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Sadly bullying appears to occur much to often across all ages by coward on social media.
Can/will it stop? Nope, it is too easy to do and get away with. Unfortunately it leads to the loss of a life, taken by their own hand because they just wanted it to stop and they could only see one way to do it.
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11-01-2018, 10:03 AM | #10 | |||
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We have our niece & nephew living with us. The niece is now 7, but back when she was 5 she was being bullied at school. She kept it to herself, and eventually the signs began to show - not wanting to get out of bed etc, when she'd previously loved going to school. She ended up confiding in me, and was adamant she didn't want her father to know. We came up with a plan of action together, and without any violence, defused the situation well - shutting down the point the bully was feeding on with pure logic. To her, there was no solution, and this kid - a 5 year old boy, was making her life hell. He had found out about her parents divorce, and decided to carry on that her parents didn't want her, and she was a reject. He had no clue what had gone on in her life, or her extended family. I logically explained to her that we actually chose for her to come & live in our place, but his parents had no choice - they had to get what they were given when he was born, whether they liked it or not. So it's like picking the best apple at the fruit shop - we chose the best one there (her), and his parents were handed whatever the shopkeeper gave them (him), so she's extra special because she was picked out. She used that analogy to shut him down, in front of several of his cohorts, and it stopped immediately. Since then, she's come to me several more times to talk about issues, that she doesn't want other adults in the family to know about, and we've talked them through to either come up with a solution, or put things in perspective so it doesn't feel like the world is closing in on her. Kids can be so cruel - she changed her hair from one day to the next, and a girl decided to have a go at her. Lo & behold, the next day, this girl had her hair done the same. So now we laugh about how she was so jealous she had to copy. So maybe the key with some kids is to have a trusted relative - under the same roof or not, who they can talk to, and "keep a secret" (in a positive way, not negative) so they don't lose that trust, but can talk things out & work on solutions together. And don't ever think kids are too young to be the victim of a bully. At first I couldn't believe a 5 year old boy could be one, but it opened my eyes, and I've even witnessed a 3 year old bullying another kid at a play centre. |
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11-01-2018, 10:53 AM | #11 | ||
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Part of the reason I don't believe in having children. Everybody gets bullied at one point or another, and some unfortunately have hearts of glass which shatter and they end up doing this. I don't reckon it's to do with upbringing either, as either you have a toughen-up-princess personality or you don't. It's a cold world out there and I reckon most would have avoided being born at all if given another chance.
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11-01-2018, 12:00 PM | #12 | ||
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Just a tragedy, whatever the details. If the person responsible for the bullying has a conscience, this should torment them for the rest of their life.
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11-01-2018, 01:19 PM | #13 | |||
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Peer pressure is another problem to control. Unfortunately Bullying has always been an age old problem. |
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11-01-2018, 01:40 PM | #14 | ||
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RIP
Sad story
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11-01-2018, 11:49 PM | #15 | ||
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What's just as sad is that incidents similar to this have been occurring for decades, way before social media, but get swept under the carpet.
Don't take then for granted, communicate with your kids. |
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12-01-2018, 12:22 AM | #16 | ||
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I reckon things might actually be worse with the internet/social media being what it is today. The abuse can be transmitted directly into the home 24/7 now.
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12-01-2018, 08:56 AM | #17 | |||
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If you are a parent of a young person, I'd also suggest that Amy's story is a perfect opportunity to either open up dialogue with your kid(s) or to reinforce any discussion you have had with your kid(s) previously. Yes, it is a difficult discussion to have, but Amy's story may just resonate with them. You never know, this just could be the one conversation that changes their life. Maybe not right now, but at some point in the future.
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13-01-2018, 12:43 AM | #19 | ||
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Compassion here for this poor little girl and but yet there are two current threads mostly viciously laughing, deriding and bagging out those LGBTI “freaks” and degenerate weirdos...
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13-01-2018, 12:54 AM | #20 | ||
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RIP. That's pretty messed up a 14yr old kills themself. There a lot of kids killing themselves at very young ages these days and that it is disturbing.
The thing is bullying is nothing new but why is it so bad now? Is it solely down to social media or just the same old **** but worse these days. |
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While it's not necessarily the same people on the threads, it's still happening and nothing is done about it. |
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06-02-2018, 01:30 PM | #22 | ||
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Yet another devastating story has come to light regarding Amanda Brennan. Amanda took her own life at the same age as Dolly (14) because of the bullying she had received on line.
Again, I encourage all parents of kids sit down and have a discussion with them about how much these things can impact on peoples' lives, either as a victim, an antagonist or as a friend or relative of either. The pain and anguish that Amanda's mum is suffering is so obvious. I'm not ashamed to say watching this story had me very emotional. Amanda's Story
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It seems that the daughter left a horse in the wrong paddock and Mum was (mildly) chastising her. As she was telling her off the daughter said "stop saying that Mum, your making me sad".....and Mum stopped. I then wondered how the kid will react later when social media, and the spiteful comments that comes with it, becomes part of her life.
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These days it can be 24 / 7 as Social media is on the phone iPad, PC etc Bullying on line can have a huge effect on the lives of young people who spend a lot of their time taking part in social media interactions. |
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06-02-2018, 03:33 PM | #25 | ||
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There's no escaping it now. Social media follows you 24/7. And when you know people are talking about you, you cant help but try and defend yourself. At least when we were kids, it stopped when the bully wasnt there.
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07-02-2018, 11:50 PM | #26 | ||
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You can add to that list those who can't grasp why our obsession with beauty & a perfect body is devastating young girls & boys from childhood well into their lives. Doesn't anybody stop to think who makes things popular and why? Do people think that 6% off the worlds population owns 100% of the worlds media is a well balanced model? People need to question more instead of going along with all the other loser's, making decisions without even questioning why? Look at our obsession with plastic surgery these days compared to 20 years ago. And we are shocked that young kids take their lives? I'm not, it's just sad that we have become so obsessed with image when it's all in vain & means nothing. We are remembered for our actions, not our looks.
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At the last parent/teacher night I was able to pick the parents of the class bullies without even knowing who their kids were. The 7yo thought I had a superpower! And parents who don't give a stuff, or tell the victim's parents the kid needs to harden up, should be held more accountable. |
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08-02-2018, 12:50 AM | #29 | ||
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...because of what Edmund Burke said, I step in whenever I see another person getting bullied in the real world. I don't have much of a filter and I will glady speak up when nobody else will. To be honest, I'm pretty harsh so I almost always escalate the situation initially but ultimately it always works out in the end. It seems like most selfish people (A-holes) never get called out and as soon as they do, they back right down and slink away. I could tell about a dozen stories just from this year but it would probably de-rail the thread. The point I'm trying to make is that I reckon we all have a duty to step in when we see other people getting treated unfairly.
One thing is for sure - online bullies are just cowards, they abuse the anonymity of the internet because it's the only thing that gives them the "courage" to harrass other people. I'm going to get a gopro and dashcam to record some of my "interactions" btw. |
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08-02-2018, 11:28 AM | #30 | ||
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No, they're learning it from each other. Trolling and flaming are simply part of online culture. Most parents didnt grow up doing this stuff, and blaming the parents passes the buck up the chain. Its the kids that need to be accountable first and foremost. Arguably, the biggest problem is that schools take no action. They might separate problem kids, suspend them for a few days, but it never goes beyond that. Even assaulting a teacher is no guarantee of expulsion.
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