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03-03-2011, 06:13 PM | #1 | |||
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http://www.theage.com.au/technology/...301-1bcr4.html
I'm hoping downloading TV shows that have been on FTA TV will be legal. Quote:
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03-03-2011, 07:15 PM | #2 | ||
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There not losing any money if I have no intention of buying that movie or listening to that music in the first place.
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03-03-2011, 07:31 PM | #3 | ||
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This has been happening for years, My friend got disconnected by Optus for downloading movies in 2004. It is not new. And if you do download anything illegal you are usually in breach of your agreement with your service provider and can be disconnected at any time.
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03-03-2011, 07:34 PM | #4 | ||
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why do you hope it's illegal?
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03-03-2011, 07:43 PM | #5 | ||
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So what are people going to do with 100gb plans?
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03-03-2011, 07:57 PM | #6 | |||
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03-03-2011, 08:02 PM | #7 | |||
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03-03-2011, 08:05 PM | #8 | ||
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100 Gb of porn.... It has no copyrite...
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03-03-2011, 08:21 PM | #9 | |||
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but it won't get through the proposed filter ( without proxies that is )
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03-03-2011, 09:55 PM | #10 | ||
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Dan, Dan, Dan...
As fast as they come up with a Legal way to get you to stop, and or to "TRY" to stop you.... 100 others will work a way out to get around it, at worse everyone will join Usenet or similar and they the stupid AFACT/MPAA wont be able to see what you are downloading. Either that or everyone will create and or join a VPN and the same result.. Here is a better idea, why not have "them" join the rest of the world and stop raping/charging ridiculous amounts of money for something that has either already made huge money in the cinema's and or 20-40 bucks a DVD that actually costs 29 cents to produce. Change the distribution model and profit. Last time I checked I have never seen a poor Movie Executive/Record Label boss or Movie distribution company.
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03-03-2011, 10:04 PM | #11 | ||
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Watching MTV Cribs makes me feel better about downloading pirated music off the net.
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03-03-2011, 10:44 PM | #12 | |||||
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Even do what they did with blank cassettes, put a small levy on blank CD's/DVD's to go towards the record/movie companies to cover anybody who may use them to pirate something. When it comes to digital distribution, its a great idea. Steam was fantastic at first, being able to get games for US$49.99 that were anywhere from $80-$100 in store. I know I purchased quite a few games I wouldn't normally have due to cost through Steam. Then some publishers on there decided that the Australian market should pay more than the rest of the world and now certain games are US$89 on Steam and in store. Guess what? Back to less legitimate methods of obtaining those ones. I love how there's so many DVD's at bargain & clearout prices, same with BluRay discs. JB have a sale on at the moment, $15 BluRay discs, buy 2 and get one free. Movies getting on a year or two now, or classics, but a brand new movie will still set you back $40 or so. And yet I bet it cost the same amount to produce. So at $40 say 500,000 people buy it. Drop it to even half and perhaps 1,000,000 people will buy it. So you've halved the price and doubled the sales, pretty well same profit you're going to be making (will be off due to manufacturing etc but pretty spot on). I know for a fact I would buy a HELL of a lot more brand new movies on DVD/Blu Ray if they were cheaper. These days I just hire them and kindly back them up for the video shop, or "rent" them from certain websites for the cost of a bit of my download quota. They put on a tariff on each item sold to cover for a couple of pirate copies, price goes up, more people pirate, tariff goes up to cover, its a vicious cycle! ;) (I think they actually do tariff this way on some software, doubt its on movies/music but wouldn't surprise me).
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03-03-2011, 11:12 PM | #13 | ||
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I haven't downloaded illegal stuff for years.
I am no longer poor so I don't have to worry about buying a movie every now and then. This thread makes me want to download pirated stuff again! |
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03-03-2011, 11:50 PM | #14 | ||
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just did the maths on what the movie industry recons they lost. Im no maths wiz so correct me if im wrong.
But they recon that 1 in 3 people downloaded movies illegaly which resulted in a loss of 1.37 billion in 12 months. This is how I see it Australia's population is 22,578,236 Divide that by 3 = 7,526,075 people that download illegal movies. Then divide $1,370,000,000 by the 7,526,075 people If thats the case then those people would have spent $1820 on movies. So at $30 per DVD thats around 61 DVD's per year. Thats one huge colletion of DVD's Maybe they didnt do their maths to realise that they werent going to sell as many DVD's as the expected so they blame the internet. |
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04-03-2011, 02:05 AM | #15 | ||
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I am of the belief that if I like it I buy it, if unsure then download it. I have a collection of over 200 bluray and dvd's, so I feel I have payed enough money to those companies, as a show of appreciation they should allow me to download a couple of movies for free.
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04-03-2011, 02:33 AM | #16 | ||
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Apparently one of the plaintiffs in this lawsuit is Seven Group Holdings (Ch7), who happen to have a subsidiary which is an ISP. And guess what, they dont throttle p2p either. Yet they leveled complaints based on iiNets refusal to utilise mechanisms available to them to stop such traffic. iiNet do throttle, but only when dealing with network congestion as do most ISP's.
The hypocrisy. |
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04-03-2011, 06:46 AM | #17 | ||
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SSL connection to Usenet. No-one can sniff the data coming in. Many Linux distros.
Torrents suck! |
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04-03-2011, 08:35 AM | #18 | ||
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Kinda gets me over here in the UK as we pay a TV licencing fee to the BBC (government) therefore we technically own the productions that are for sale on DVD etc so why do they sell for Ł15 (ish) I've already paid .
I don't understand. Also cut all the cr@p with Oscars etc which cost a blŘŘdy fortune and cut some of the actors (and hangars on) wages. Few Million for a movie we don't earn that in a lifetime. Wayne |
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04-03-2011, 08:52 AM | #19 | ||
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iiNet tried this sort of thing in America. It didn't happen.
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05-03-2011, 04:28 AM | #20 | |||
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If pricing was cheaper, I might actually be interested in buying the occassional movie / dvd that will ultimately become a coaster for a coffee cup. |
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05-03-2011, 02:27 PM | #21 | ||
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i still view piracy as theft, pure and simple, imo it is no different to walking into the nearest cd/dvd store grabbing what you want and walking out the door.
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05-03-2011, 03:09 PM | #22 | ||||
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There is plenty to watch on Foxtel and free to air without buying expensive frizbees to watch once. Out of curiosity, how much a year do you spend on movies? Quote:
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05-03-2011, 10:04 PM | #23 | ||
let it burn
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Arrr me hearties.
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05-03-2011, 10:09 PM | #24 | ||
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I download lots, but on the other hand I also buy more dvd's and go to the cinemas more than everyone I know..
Downloading is not theft When I'm done with my mags I give them away, am I going to jail for that too? |
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05-03-2011, 10:30 PM | #25 | ||||
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lol, certainly nowhere near $1820... i dont buy many, maybe 20 a year, rent most, and have recently started using itunes more for movies. ironically, bought one dvd and one cd today. pure impulse buy, saw the dvd as i walked past the shop then when i went to buy it got tempted by the cd lol Quote:
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05-03-2011, 11:11 PM | #26 | |||
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I also download The Howard Stern Show each day. Though, I pay for the service in which his show is broadcast on. I do it for convenience since the satellite signal is not available in Australia so I can only stream it over the internet. Easier to carry it as an mp3 file on my phone instead of running an app, burning up mobile MB's and having the opportunity to listen to ~1/10th of the show. By doing that, I'm still committing a crime. The figures that get thrown out about the financial impact on the industry are inaccurate if you ask me. In the past, I may have downloaded an album or two but the bands I enjoy I'll buy their CD or download it from iTunes. Of the music I've downloaded, I'll check it out and if I like it, it may end up being one of those bands I'll end up buying. If I never downloaded it, I would never have bought it. Games, the same. I've bought many a game after downloading it to try it out on my machine. Haven't skimped on that regard though, my closet in my bedroom is jam packed with boxed games (much to the missus' annoyance) and a quick look at my Steam list shows 195 games.. (including Dragon Age II which I finished pre-loading only moments ago). |
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05-03-2011, 11:41 PM | #27 | ||
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The old excuse "I only download to see if i like it" doesn't work as well anymore, for songs at least.
I mean you can pretty much find every song on youtube these days. Having said that, I personally don't care whether people download or buy. |
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06-03-2011, 01:01 AM | #28 | ||
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Big deal they disconnect you then u go elsewhere
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06-03-2011, 02:16 AM | #29 | ||
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Been disconnected a few times. Cant really say why lol
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06-03-2011, 10:54 AM | #30 | |||
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Back in the day, you'd by a blank tape and copy an original. Today if I 'wouldn't mind' seeing a movie why pay for it. If I had to I wouldn't watch it! Where as if it's awesome, then I would by it. Especially for the doco's, making of, etc. Stopping DLC will not increase the film makers margins significantly.
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