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Old 19-11-2023, 11:03 PM   #1
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Two random questions in one day…

I’m hoping to cobble up some fairly lightweight security chain for stuff that is easier/more convenient to keep on the ute. Secure enough to deter the honest criminals.

Have seen the motorbike security chains, they’re the general format but are shorter and stronger than what’s desired. Eg: https://www.amazon.com.au/OKG-Securi.../dp/B08R5HLRM2

Cable is less desirable as it won’t slump like a chain, and is harder to feed through multiple items without wanting to pull on them.

I’ll probably be wanting a chain eight to ten feet long. Any suggestions on either vinyl sheathing (spec and source) or some sort of durable tube knit synthetic, would be useful. Any stories of what hasn’t worked for someone, might be informative, too.
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Old 20-11-2023, 07:06 AM   #2
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Two random questions in one day…

I’m hoping to cobble up some fairly lightweight security chain for stuff that is easier/more convenient to keep on the ute. Secure enough to deter the honest criminals.

Have seen the motorbike security chains, they’re the general format but are shorter and stronger than what’s desired. Eg: https://www.amazon.com.au/OKG-Securi.../dp/B08R5HLRM2

Cable is less desirable as it won’t slump like a chain, and is harder to feed through multiple items without wanting to pull on them.

I’ll probably be wanting a chain eight to ten feet long. Any suggestions on either vinyl sheathing (spec and source) or some sort of durable tube knit synthetic, would be useful. Any stories of what hasn’t worked for someone, might be informative, too.
My containers have extra woven covered (carbon weave sleeve) anchor chain wrapped around the door locking bars which tie them together.
Anchor chain is better made than hardware store chain as its your insurance when on the hook. Very hard links to cut by angle grinders let alone bolt cutters. The carbon weave I bought from a hydraulics shop, they use it over high pressure hoses to contain explosive hose failures.

Some of the carbon sheaved bicycle chain locks are great too.
I'm talking high end bicycles (not Kmart ones) they are usually longer than motorbike ones due to the need to wrap it to a fix street object.
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Old 20-11-2023, 03:16 PM   #3
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Done similar recently and would recommend a combination padlock on it rather than key.

Much more convenient, no need to look for a key each time and use your PIN as the combo.
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Anchor chain would likely be massive overkill. I’m looking at securing stuff that might stay on the ute when it’s in a car park, or I’m overnighting at a motel, or perhaps packing things the night before an early departure. Eg, couple of mowers, a trimmer, hedger, generator type items. To stop opportunistic theft, not determined crooks or crackheads with a grinder.
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I love these cryptic questions.
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Old 20-11-2023, 05:00 PM   #6
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Years ago, when I worked with forklifts I used to make up ones from the lift chains.
I used pushbike innertubes for the covering.
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I remember the cops telling us at a marina once, locks are for honest people.
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Inner tube could work at a pinch.

A dog, not a chance. Too much extra responsibility.

I didn’t intend the questions to be cryptic, I was trying to provide streamlined information without a lot of static. If it helps, the lawn mower is green and black; I load it in the tray area immediately behind the passenger seat and my bald neighbour’s name is Kevin.
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. Any suggestions on either vinyl sheathing (spec and source) or some sort of durable tube knit synthetic, would be useful. Any stories of what hasn’t worked for someone, might be informative, too.
Just answering what I thought you wanted to know.
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Just a thought, would low side removal cage work. Something you could simply padlock from the back and together if needed.

Sides could be made from lightweight steel mesh say up to 5 -600mm high.

Bought the (Christmas Tree) Trader with a large cage attached, way to high for my use. Would have been useful cut down to say cab roof height.
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thats what kept me thinking last night, why not a lockup cage or even a metal canopy thing
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How I have been using the ute, varies so much that a fairly static item like a cage wouldn’t really work. Even its rear rack is off and on like the proverbial.

RW, if you know - does the “burst sleeve” fray at its ends if cut but not sealed?
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