Tougher "hoon" laws coming...

4Vman · 29-06-2009, 12:56 PM

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...85-661,00.html

flappist · 29-06-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...85-661,00.html

What a brilliant idea, might as well see if we can outrun them now rather than stop and take it on the chin.

Stupid public vegetable thinking. Of course everyone who is speeding or whatever is thinking clearly and has planned several months in advance filling out reems of paper ensuring all the check and balances before pressing the accellerator.

You get life for murder, people still get killed.....

RG · 29-06-2009, 01:04 PM

For people caught 70+ over the limit. Fair enough for that but I see this as a knee jerk media response after the tragedies over the weekend.

Rob · 29-06-2009, 01:07 PM

It won't change anything.... the do-gooders will still preach and rant, and the hoons will still hoon.

Everything has to be regulated these days, it's pathetic.

**Sorted** · 29-06-2009, 01:07 PM

Hoon Laws - WOW they are effective

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But hoons still do not seem to be getting the message: almost 450 have been caught twice, and 74 three-time offenders have been nabbed.

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The announcement came as Bendigo was officially revealed as the state's hoon capital.

Rob · 29-06-2009, 01:11 PM

Also, the article about the horror weekend mentions nothing about speed being involved.

Why do we read this dribble?

GTP owner · 29-06-2009, 01:14 PM

so if bendigo is the state's hoon capital, does that mean that it has the highest number of car crashes? Or maybe because they were caught it prevented them crashing, proving that the laws worked???? That would be their twisted logic.

And how many of the fatalities on the weekend were hoon related?

Stupid laws. If a hoon was doing over 70 over the limit, there is no way they would stop now. I know i would not.

Rob · 29-06-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GTP owner

Stupid laws. If a hoon was doing over 70 over the limit, there is no way they would stop now. I know i would not.

I had to laugh when I read that, and saw the Macbeth quote in your sig.

ea90_S · 29-06-2009, 01:20 PM

thats good confiscate there cars what about better driver education! You can take as many cars aways as you want from someone wether or not they learn is another thing

**DJM83** · 29-06-2009, 01:29 PM

Dont act the fool, wont get caught simple really.

Bmobile · 29-06-2009, 01:56 PM

The current Hoon laws are unfair... If you were to skid a single wheel around a corner and make a slight chirping noise you would be done for hooning and get your car taken away. The hoon laws target younger drivers that do silly little thing like this, but they also target the more dangerour stuff, fair enough.

Now if a mother was doing 20 over the limit to get the kids to school on time, she would get done for speeding and cop a fine. No biggie to some if they got a ready cash flow comming in. But it is just as dangerous and even more so than the "Hoon" caught doing the chirpie off the lights and got his car taken away.

Laws need to reflect more on the danger of the offence rather than on a certain stero type. Speeding is one of the biggest killers on our roads and as soon as the laws get tough on this behaviour rather than treating it as the revenue raising activity it has become. The sooner we can lower the road toll.

xe351 · 29-06-2009, 02:06 PM

we are just another state of america right? the only thing this will change is people wont stop for police and then we will have the "high speed police chases caught on camera" crap on tv

bluebloodxr8 · 29-06-2009, 02:20 PM

All hype following the multiple teen crash there yesterday.
A crash between a Holden Statesman and a Holden Commode.

Would be easier and make a lot more sense to Ban Holdens,
they are obviously killing thousands of aussies every year.

Tuddy200 · 29-06-2009, 02:22 PM

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Despite today's comments indicating tougher laws, Mr Cameron has hailed as a success the laws which force hoons to hand over the keys to their cars for two days for a first offence.

Not much of a success if apparently us young people aren't getting the message and still having our cars impounded?

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If such a success why do we need tougher laws?

In fact, they are not a success. Road toll hasn't changed in the last 6 years.

RG · 29-06-2009, 02:23 PM

Why do these threads always end up going this way....

Guys enough with some of the comments, we can be annoyed and adult at the same time.

hame · 29-06-2009, 02:43 PM

Our local area commander got caught doing 76km over the limit in an unmarked cop car.

So would they just make him swap cars?

mrbaxr6t · 29-06-2009, 02:53 PM

heres an idea - educate people on the dangers of speeding and the emotional financial and physical costs involved in having an accident. Impound all the cars you like until you change the mindset of the driver they will just get another vehicle and continue the behavior. The laws at the moment are adequate.

Fairlane · 29-06-2009, 04:19 PM

Knee jerk reaction, they will just run now, and more likely than not wrap the car around a power pole.

balthazarr · 29-06-2009, 05:02 PM

From the article (my emphasis):

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Currently hooning drivers lose their car for just 48 hours for a first offence.

Not necessarily, they confiscate the car being driven, whether owned by the driver or not... one of my biggest complaints with the existing laws.

GT-E · 29-06-2009, 05:14 PM

After watching last night "the force" I have now decided that our politicians have 0% interest in saving lives, only getting money.
Watching this lowlife getting pulled over for DUI, blowing .187, having a suspended license and using the excuse that "everyone does it" as he is driven away in the police car.
Later int he story, we find out he killed a 10yo girl on her pushbike while he was drunk and was aquitted of the death, as he was see drivign safely before the murder of an innocent child. Since he was aquitted in 2006, he has been caught 5 times unlicensed and drunk. He got a $1500 fine and 2 more years of license suspension, yet he was caught 2 MORE TIMES between the filming of the story and last night !!!
The guy is 24 years old and will never learn.
Yet they do not conferscate his car ?????????
I mean WTF.....
Why is the lowlife not in jail, I do not know, but the fact he still has the car is beyond any explanation. If my child was killed, I would be seeking some vigalante justice on this cretin, as the police/courts/government have no interest in stopping the repeat offenders, or punishing people who are doing the real crimes.

Nikked · 29-06-2009, 05:16 PM

Hoons are the scapegoat for road tolls.

Nothing surprises me, everytime there is a death the just bring more laws as a placebo effect.

Stopping hoons isn't going to drop the road toll significantly.

Green X · 29-06-2009, 05:30 PM

In WA they want to make it so what ever car the Hoon is driving get's confiscated even if it is not his and if the car is damaged before it is confiscated you get a $2500 fine. so theoretically if you car was stolen and involved in Hoon behavior it would be impounded for a month or even sold!

How does this stuff get made law, Currently "Hoon" behavior is up there with being a Drug dealer in fact i think if you were busted for dealing drugs you would be punished less under the law then if you were done for a burnout.

XR8Luke86 · 29-06-2009, 05:42 PM

I've had my car impounded under the hoon laws for doing 160km/h in an 110 zone, no reason to it i was just daft.
Has it stopped me from speeding, not exactly. I've gone over 200kmh a couple of times since then because two people close to me NEEDED to go to hospital, one would've died en-route if i was following the speed limits, how do you think the cops would deal with that if the followed me to E.R??
Will these laws stop me from saving a mates life, nope.
(btw: no Ambo's either, they were too busy)

DOC · 29-06-2009, 05:42 PM

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Vehicles can be impounded if a driver is caught doing 45km/h or more over the speed limit or is travelling at more than 145km/h in a 100km/h zone.

imformative, same message repeated twice

svo supporter · 29-06-2009, 06:06 PM

Sppeding classed as hoon driving. In the surburbs, yeah. Make the offenders go to an accident site and clean up the mess. Out on the open roads. No. There is nothing worse than travelling hundreds of K's @ 100KPH, in the middle of know where, with nothing round and getting done for speeding.

As for a members response about speeding to get his mates to the hospital. I congratulate you. Even if the cops were to follow you to the ER, you'd be fine. In fact, if you were to pull over and show that your mates were in serious medical trouble, they'd give you an escort. One of the first things a cop askes you when they pull you up for speeding is, "What's your reason for speeding". So there is provisions for speeding and getting away with it

4Vman · 29-06-2009, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by svo supporter

As for a members response about speeding to get his mates to the hospital. I congratulate you. Even if the cops were to follow you to the ER, you'd be fine. In fact, if you were to pull over and show that your mates were in serious medical trouble, they'd give you an escort. One of the first things a cop askes you when they pull you up for speeding is, "What's your reason for speeding". So there is provisions for speeding and getting away with it

I seriously doubt they'd escort you, they'd call a ambulance and make you wait for it.
As for the question "why were you speeding?" its a means of getting you to admit you were speeding, if you say anything other than you werent speeding you've admitted liability, because there is no "legitimate" legal excuse...

jamesson1980 · 29-06-2009, 06:13 PM

Anyone read that bit about a 21 yr old doing a solid 191km/h in a 60 zone in Melbourne's west over the weekend? I'v never heard of such automotive dickery! I can't find the follow up story to this, i'm quite interested to see what happened there.. anyone else know the outcome?
For the record: 2004 VY Sedan was the rocket ship involved here!

4Vman · 29-06-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesson1980

Anyone read that bit about a 21 yr old doing a solid 191km/h in a 60 zone in Melbourne's west over the weekend? I'v never heard of such automotive dickery! I can't find the follow up story to this, i'm quite interested to see what happened there.. anyone else know the outcome?
For the record: 2004 VY Sedan was the rocket ship involved here!

It was a VY HSV Clubsport and he wasnt legally licenced to drive it...

jamesson1980 · 29-06-2009, 06:20 PM

Thought it may have been more than just the executive model. The car is safely locked up i believe, but how about the driver?

Thankfull · 29-06-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bluebloodxr8

All hype following the multiple teen crash there yesterday.
A crash between a Holden Statesman and a Holden Commode.

Would be easier and make a lot more sense to Ban Holdens,
they are obviously killing thousands of aussies every year.

Here here....sounds a lot more sensible than the hoon laws.

One of the unfortunate facts of life is....that young people die in car accidents....and it happens more often now, because there are more people than ever before driving on our roads now.

They can legislate all they like....more young people will still die on our roads.
It is an unfortunate fact of life.