Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 21-05-2011, 07:31 PM   #1
russellw
Chairman & Administrator
Donating Member3
 
russellw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: 1975
Posts: 107,090
Community Builder: In recognition of those who have helped build the AFF community. - Issue reason: Raptor: For Continued, and prolonged service to the wider Ford Community 
Default All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

May 20 2011
  • Ranger boasts exceptionally good front head room
  • The Double Cab has maximum interior space without compromising the cargo box volume
  • Engineers optimised every millimetre of Ranger's dimensions and came up with innovative solutions to provide more interior space
As more and more customers use their pickup to haul not only cargo but also people, the all-new Ford Ranger delivers more cabin room where it matters.

Boasting exceptionally good front head room as well as rear leg room and knee clearance in the Double Cab, Ford's global pickup gives customers maximum interior space without compromising the substantial cargo box volume.
Engineers put in a lot of effort into keeping the vehicle short but the occupant space large by fully utilising every millimetre of Ranger's dimensions. They also came up with innovative solutions to make sure there's no wasted space.
At the start of the Ranger program, the engineers were given targets for the pickup's interior, overall length and the box length.
"We weren't quite sure how to get all of them to add up. It was like making 2+2 = 3," quipped David Stanley, package supervisor, Product Development, Ford Australia.
In the end they found a way to optimise the clearance between the rear seat, the box and the body structure. They slimmed down the back of the seats and headrests, while ensuring the same level of comfort. They also used clever shapes in the sheet metal, by utilising smaller sections instead of one large section. This meant they could make the body structure thinner without compromising on the vehicle integrity.
Likewise, to achieve front head room of 1022mm, the engineers squeezed the clearance between the headliner and the sheet metal to the absolute minimum.
"It should be big enough to do its job and no more," Stanley said. "We try to account for every millimetre and during Ranger's development, we'd often find a few millimetres here and a few millimetres there which we would pare down to push out the interior as much as possible."
As a result, Ranger's front leg, shoulder and hip room are ultra-competitive while the overall roominess in the front is set to rival some leading competitors.
Zooming in on the back seat
With Ranger increasingly being a work-and-family vehicle, the engineers have paid special attention to the rear seats. While the second row in the Super Cab is very spacious, it's the rear seats in the Double Cab that truly shine.

Shifting away from the one-door-fits-all approach, Ranger now has a two-door strategy. The Regular Cab and Super Cab share one long front door, while the Double Cab has a separate shorter front door. Moving the B-pillar forward in the Double Cab has done Ranger a whole world of good.
The Double Cab delivers rear leg room of 902mm and knee clearance of 39mm. This translates into three adults fitting easily in the second row while two six-footers can comfortably sit one behind the other. The rear ingress and egress are also among the best in the segment.
Moreover, the rear glass is bigger which not only helps the driver’s vision but also gives the second-row occupants a more spacious feeling, due to the greater amount of light that comes in. The perception of roominess is further enhanced by the B-pillar being further away from the eye. To open up the interior even more, engineers went down to the details and optimised the pillar size, pillar trim and the blackout on the glass, squeezing them as small as possible.
Still, it wasn't enough to whittle down every last millimetre. The engineers made sure the seat back angle was optimised. Some competitors make the rear seats very vertical to improve leg room and knee room but second-row occupants might just end up slouching into the available knee room.
"We wanted Ranger to be better than an ordinary pickup. We wanted it to have the comfort levels of an SUV," Stanley said. "So we looked at the hip angle, back angle and torso angle to make sure we've got it right."











__________________

__________________________________________________

Observatio Facta Rotae


russellw is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-05-2011, 07:44 PM   #2
Polyal
Virtuous Bogan (TM)
Donating Member2
 
Polyal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TAS
Posts: 27,573
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Are the really "official" pics?

It might have more room but it still looks cramped, granted they are all the same.
__________________
  • 2023 Mitsubishi Triton
  • 2017 Mitsubishi Pajero Sport
  • 2003 CL7 Honda Accord Euro R (JDM) - K20A 6MT
  • 1999 Lexus IS200 - 1G-FE Turbo 6MT
  • 1973 ZF Ford Fairlane
Polyal is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-05-2011, 07:48 PM   #3
SM1DY
LIKE A BOSS 351
 
SM1DY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 2,779
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

The rear bench seat looks a bit tacky, I'm guessing that's one of the base models?
SM1DY is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-05-2011, 07:50 PM   #4
Iggypoppin'
Chasing a FORD project!
 
Iggypoppin''s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: adelaide
Posts: 5,114
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

That last pic, the dog looks stoned...
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by HSE2
Today we might get beaten at some of our own game. Tomorrow we reinvent it.
Game. Reinvented.

1996 BMW 740iL V8. TV, phone, leather, sunroof, satnav, all as standard. Now with 19" TSW Brooklands, 2 1/2" stainless steel exhaust, plus more coming soon.
Iggypoppin' is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-05-2011, 08:02 PM   #5
4VCLEVO
XA GT
 
4VCLEVO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,128
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Any one notice Its left hand drive. It does look like a base model. There looks to be more room in the back than others I've seen.
__________________
---------------------------------------------------
XA GT, 6.848sec 1/8 mile @ 101.68mph
4VCLEVO is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-05-2011, 08:09 PM   #6
NC1183
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
NC1183's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Moree, NSW
Posts: 2,076
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Anyone happen to read the article and realize that its the Space Cab model, it looks to me to have more room then the PJ/K model.
__________________
Nathan

2005 FPV BF Super Pursuit

The new toy (now sold)
The SP


The old ute (sold)
www.aufalcon.com/nc1183

Build Thread


Quote:
Originally Posted by F6T
If you look closely you can see the remains of a Hyundai excel that’s been sucked into the intake.
about the pic of 'CHOP YA' F6
NC1183 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-05-2011, 08:11 PM   #7
|Nate
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
|Nate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 824
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Sorry, I just had to:


But in all seriousness, I hope that's the base model as the back bench seats look very uncomfortable, but promising with higher up models.
|Nate is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-05-2011, 08:25 PM   #8
Road_Warrior
Pity the fool
 
Road_Warrior's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wait Awhile
Posts: 8,997
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

It's a mule. You can tell by the big red 'emergency stop' button mounted to the console.
__________________
Fords I own or have owned:

1970 XW Falcon GT replica | 1970 XW Falcon | 1971 XY Fairmont | 1973 ZG Fairlane | 1986 XF Falcon panel van | 1987 XFII Falcon S-Pack | 1988 XF Falcon GLS ute | 1993 EBII Fairmont V8 | 1996 XG Falcon ute | 2000 AU Falcon wagon | 2004 BA Falcon XT | 2012 SZ Territory Titanium AWD

Proud to buy Australian and support Ford Australia through thick and thin
Road_Warrior is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-05-2011, 08:25 PM   #9
XR Martin
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
XR Martin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Canberra Region
Posts: 8,955
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

You guys do realise its just the extra cab version? Rear seats are really only designed for short trips.
Look at the Hilux for example.


__________________
2016 FGX XR8 Sprint, 6speed manual, Kinetic Blue #170

2004 BA wagon RTV project.

1998 EL XR8, Auto, Hot Chilli Red

1993 ED XR6, 5speed, Polynesian Green. 1 of 329. Retired

1968 XT Falcon 500 wagon, 3 on the tree, 3.6L. Patina project.
XR Martin is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-05-2011, 08:28 PM   #10
naddis01
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
 
naddis01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,709
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Why do they bother putting 'seats' in the space cab versions?
naddis01 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-05-2011, 08:37 PM   #11
russellw
Chairman & Administrator
Donating Member3
 
russellw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: 1975
Posts: 107,090
Community Builder: In recognition of those who have helped build the AFF community. - Issue reason: Raptor: For Continued, and prolonged service to the wider Ford Community 
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Quote:
Originally Posted by Polyal
Are the really "official" pics?
Of course they aren't - I really have little else to do with my time than create fake photos complete with odd looking dogs and Left Hand drive vehicles for the more critical members here to pick holes in.

They are what came with the media release so if you really have an issue with the quality of the pictures, the state of mind the dog is in (or out) of or why they even bother then take it up with them.

Russ
__________________

__________________________________________________

Observatio Facta Rotae


russellw is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-05-2011, 08:51 PM   #12
mr smith
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,137
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Quote:
Originally Posted by naddis01
Why do they bother putting 'seats' in the space cab versions?
They come in handy. I drive a space cab and 90% of the time it has bags, shopping etc behind the seats, but for the odd trip home with an extra passenger they do the job. You wouldnt go from Melb to Syd with someone in there but much better than getting your mate to squeeze in behind the seats of a BA.
mr smith is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-05-2011, 08:59 PM   #13
Resurrection
I was correct - AGAIN
 
Resurrection's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Third rock from the sun
Posts: 1,801
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Quote:
Originally Posted by Road_Warrior
It's a mule. You can tell by the big red 'emergency stop' button mounted to the console.
And some of the plastic parts do not have the grain finish.
Resurrection is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-05-2011, 09:00 PM   #14
Polyal
Virtuous Bogan (TM)
Donating Member2
 
Polyal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TAS
Posts: 27,573
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Just a simple question Russ, they look amateurish at best, not quite a release I would expect from a global product but there you go. I understand they are pushing the family friendly envelope but still, someone might aswell be giving the guy in the background some rabbit ears.
__________________
  • 2023 Mitsubishi Triton
  • 2017 Mitsubishi Pajero Sport
  • 2003 CL7 Honda Accord Euro R (JDM) - K20A 6MT
  • 1999 Lexus IS200 - 1G-FE Turbo 6MT
  • 1973 ZF Ford Fairlane
Polyal is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-05-2011, 09:04 PM   #15
Rastus
XY,XC,XEx2,XA,EF,AU,BA,XY
 
Rastus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ballarat, Victoria.
Posts: 444
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Would be perfect for carting the kids around to something local. Additionally you'd have a longer tray back Vs what you'd have on the true twin/crew cab. Weigh up the options, and what you use it for the most I guess.
__________________
A sad day when there's no Falcon variant in the garage!
Rastus is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-05-2011, 09:42 PM   #16
GT
Mrs Russellw
Donating Member3
 
GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Kilmore - on the road to Heathcote!
Posts: 1,363
Community Builder: In recognition of those who have helped build the AFF community. - Issue reason: All your effort in keeping me sane and on-track. Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: For her honest, direct and helpful advice to members. The content of her posts help many members on the forum and most times, turn a very negative thread into a postive one. 
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Quote:
Originally Posted by Polyal
Just a simple question Russ, they look amateurish at best, not quite a release I would expect from a global product but there you go. I understand they are pushing the family friendly envelope but still, someone might aswell be giving the guy in the background some rabbit ears.
I understood what you meant but sometimes things come across, "not quite right" and the way it was worded was probably not quite what you meant either. Bit of a case of "don't shoot the messenger". Photos were very amateurish and I am surprised they didn't make some effort. I reckon they had the press release and then suddenly realised they had no photos so did something equivalent to a Google search.

Cheers
Gaela
__________________
AUSTRALIA'S QUICKEST UNOPENED N/A GT
AND FIRST IN THE 11 SECONDS.......................
11.96 @ 117.88mph & 11.97 @ 118.11mph (60ft 1.69)


Quote:
Originally Posted by CAMS290
Fact is Gaela's GTP IS the quickest NA Boss 290 Sedan now (by a long shot)
The precedent of stripping weight and using full slicks was set years ago now.

So if you want to beat em, ya gotta join em, and being manual makes the time even more credible.
GT is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-05-2011, 10:14 PM   #17
Polyal
Virtuous Bogan (TM)
Donating Member2
 
Polyal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TAS
Posts: 27,573
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Yeah sorry, it did come across perhaps in a "sharp" manner. I guess its getting annoying Ford not going all out for these types of things.

To me every little thing that is done, said, communicated etc from a business reflects that business. Now I agree these are just some harmless pics thrown out to show how much space there is, and thats fine, but to me it looks like something someone on this forum snapped up. Actually you just have to look at the photography section of this site to see members here would do far better.
__________________
  • 2023 Mitsubishi Triton
  • 2017 Mitsubishi Pajero Sport
  • 2003 CL7 Honda Accord Euro R (JDM) - K20A 6MT
  • 1999 Lexus IS200 - 1G-FE Turbo 6MT
  • 1973 ZF Ford Fairlane
Polyal is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-05-2011, 10:54 PM   #18
stevz
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,223
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Yeah I don't know what they were thinking with those pics. To call them amateurish would be an insult to an amateur.
stevz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-05-2011, 10:59 PM   #19
Smoke Pursuit
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 22,910
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: DASH/bfiipursuit has been alot of help over the years I have frequented this forum, lots of thoughtful and informed posts, very much a valued contributor. 
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Woulda made more sence to put 2 kids in the back and mum in the front then 2 largish dogs.

Hopefully they retail these lower end cars at a reasonable price, e.g 34 kay ish! Toyotas are rediculously expensive for what they are.
Smoke Pursuit is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 21-05-2011, 11:08 PM   #20
Polyal
Virtuous Bogan (TM)
Donating Member2
 
Polyal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TAS
Posts: 27,573
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

And those pesky Hiluxs are everywhere!

Ive been traveling past some road works for the past couple of weeks, and honestly, 95% of the cars are Hilux's, I saw one Ranger and Rodeo. worst still this is a council that has the Ford PG in its area!

Getting some of that pie will be huge, councils/govs must buy a mammoth amount of these.
__________________
  • 2023 Mitsubishi Triton
  • 2017 Mitsubishi Pajero Sport
  • 2003 CL7 Honda Accord Euro R (JDM) - K20A 6MT
  • 1999 Lexus IS200 - 1G-FE Turbo 6MT
  • 1973 ZF Ford Fairlane

Last edited by Polyal; 21-05-2011 at 11:16 PM.
Polyal is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-05-2011, 01:00 AM   #21
Wretched
Render unto Caesar
 
Wretched's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: ::1
Posts: 4,222
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

I do look forward to the Ranger as I believe and hope it will take on the Hilux but these pictures released by Ford are a little unprofessional and look rushed.

Couple of issues, the dogs are unnecessary, using a clearly well used pre prod car for a media release is a little silly and the location/camera angles really don't do much.
__________________
"Aliens might be surprised to learn that in a cosmos with limitless starlight, humans kill for energy sources buried in sand." - Neil deGrasse Tyson
Wretched is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-05-2011, 01:11 AM   #22
TheInterceptor
Cruising...
 
TheInterceptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Perth
Posts: 3,819
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Quote:
Originally Posted by Polyal
And those pesky Hiluxs are everywhere!

Ive been traveling past some road works for the past couple of weeks, and honestly, 95% of the cars are Hilux's, I saw one Ranger and Rodeo. worst still this is a council that has the Ford PG in its area!

Getting some of that pie will be huge, councils/govs must buy a mammoth amount of these.
Hey! Even my family agree's the PG sharts all over the family BF!

Unless your on about a different PG.

As for Hilux's, unbeleiveably astronomically overpriced....
__________________
FBT '98
BA XT '04
F100 4x4 '82

Subaru Outback '02
TheInterceptor is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-05-2011, 01:30 AM   #23
snappy
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
snappy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Geelong
Posts: 2,374
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Quote:
Originally Posted by naddis01
Why do they bother putting 'seats' in the space cab versions?
Somthing soft for the rifle to sit on
snappy is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-05-2011, 01:43 AM   #24
1TUFFUTE
Banned
 
1TUFFUTE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Ipswich QLD
Posts: 4,697
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

ill tell you why the dogs is a bad idea...i have big ridgebacks and bull arabs and those in the pic made me staraight away think it was small...cus they arent big dogs....and im sure im not the only aussie with 50kg pluss dogs..lol
1TUFFUTE is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-05-2011, 11:32 AM   #25
Polyal
Virtuous Bogan (TM)
Donating Member2
 
Polyal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TAS
Posts: 27,573
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheInterceptor
Hey! Even my family agree's the PG sharts all over the family BF!

Unless your on about a different PG.

As for Hilux's, unbeleiveably astronomically overpriced....
PG = Proving Ground..hehe

I think its the Ballarine shire or something, outskirts of Geelong.
__________________
  • 2023 Mitsubishi Triton
  • 2017 Mitsubishi Pajero Sport
  • 2003 CL7 Honda Accord Euro R (JDM) - K20A 6MT
  • 1999 Lexus IS200 - 1G-FE Turbo 6MT
  • 1973 ZF Ford Fairlane
Polyal is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-05-2011, 11:46 AM   #26
Jim Goose
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Sun City, North Australis
Posts: 4,274
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Will they allow suicide doors on both sides in Australia?
I recall once something about not being allowed on the drivers side due to safety reasons and would only be allowed on the passenger side?
__________________
You've seen it, you've heard it and your still asking questions??

Don't write off the Goose until you see the box going into the hole....
Jim Goose is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-05-2011, 11:56 AM   #27
Jim Goose
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Sun City, North Australis
Posts: 4,274
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Disregard took at look at the Mazda RX8 and it has them on both sides....
__________________
You've seen it, you've heard it and your still asking questions??

Don't write off the Goose until you see the box going into the hole....
Jim Goose is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-05-2011, 03:24 PM   #28
TheInterceptor
Cruising...
 
TheInterceptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Perth
Posts: 3,819
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Quote:
Originally Posted by Polyal
PG = Proving Ground..hehe

I think its the Ballarine shire or something, outskirts of Geelong.

Aha massive stuff up on that one
__________________
FBT '98
BA XT '04
F100 4x4 '82

Subaru Outback '02
TheInterceptor is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-05-2011, 03:52 PM   #29
4.0i OHC
Computer Torque Control
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Ballarat East
Posts: 546
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheInterceptor
Hey! Even my family agree's the PG sharts all over the family BF!

Unless your on about a different PG.

As for Hilux's, unbeleiveably astronomically overpriced....
Is there any reason why the family BF deserves to be "sharted" on? Just curious
4.0i OHC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 22-05-2011, 04:34 PM   #30
TheInterceptor
Cruising...
 
TheInterceptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Perth
Posts: 3,819
Default Re: All-New Ford Ranger Makes Room For More Space

Quote:
Originally Posted by fairlaneman
Is there any reason why the family BF deserves to be "sharted" on? Just curious
Ah i didnt say it deserves to be sharted on (only said that as the word ***** is not allowed). It doesnt deserve it, it's a nice car dont get me wrong.
But my whole family loves my new ute. From the comfy seats to the colour to the way it drives, as a whole they all like it way better than the BF.
__________________
FBT '98
BA XT '04
F100 4x4 '82

Subaru Outback '02
TheInterceptor is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 09:45 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL