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Chaps. What can you tell me about the Ford Focus Diesel TDCi 2.0L? Say 2007 to 2010 models.
Are the mechanicals reliable? How long can you stretch the engines out for reliably? e.g. should one avoid 200k+ engines? Any common problems to consider? Any major service required and when are they due? e.g. belts and/or chains.
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Belts chains tensioner water pump due at 20000
Is it a manual or auto? Manual better in fact did they come out with an auto? Just the usual stuff Shocks Brakes Front air dam fell off mine Drivers seat gets tired But they are rugged and reliable I got out of mine at 278000 on suspicion that it couldn’t last forever but it prob has Same engine as peugeot307/308 of same era Great car just suspicious of some of the later models having a powershift auto Also you ll need to get things decarbonised couple of times My mechanic back then sent it to a radiator place Solid constant 5.2 fuel eco maybe 5.4 air con on constantly |
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200,000kms
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Also pm Franco Cozzo he only just gave his to a friend
Even Franco couldn’t destroy his |
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I also hit a wallaby in it, which smashed the ECU out of its home, which it then got jammed between the front left wheel and the road, hanging by its wiring loom, and I drove it like that another 15km home and it still survived. Mine went 235,000km from new when I got rid of it, gave it to a friend, its still alive - he hit a roo in it recently, bashed in the front quarter but its still kicking. Does 5.7L/100km all day every day, no matter how hard or how soft you drive it. It went up to 6.1L/100km but with a lot of 150-180km/h ![]() Injectors are around $1000+ GST each, mine had a leaky injector on cylinder 3, but otherwise pretty solid car - stick with the manual and stick with the model prior to the LV as I don't think it has the torque limiter on the first three gears like the LV does. |
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![]() Whats involved with decarbonisation? Cost? I'm potentially looking for a cheap run around that I can bash around for 2-3 months whilst I look for a longer term vehicle. It'll be daily driven so need all the things that make it "go" to be reliable. A bit of knocking and banging from old age is acceptable...after all...been in a 04 banged up falcon for over 8 years now :P Used to it.
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I'd be more inclined to get your hands on a Mondeo XR5 or Focus XR5, but look for one with its original owner rather than P platers as the Focus XR5 has become a bit of a P plate weapon of the 2020s.
You get all the diesel torque but with another 50kw worth of power, and a mint sounding 5 cylinder engine that sounds deep, like V8s. |
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If I do decide to go down this path, first thing I'd do is to get a tune..... ![]()
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Its still just all hypothetical at this stage.
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No one locally can tune them, I had mine tuned and a larger hybrid turbo, they had serious issues trying to play with the fuel side of it, If you try increase fuel, it reduces injector duration, You try increase injector duration, it reduces fuel. It protects itself from being fiddled with, and no one can figure out the French electronics. They did some dodgy shit to get more fuel out of it, ended up making 123KW/front wheels up from 85KW ![]() Its only got a 2.5 BAR MAP sensor too, so you can't go above like 24 PSI boost, before the sensor goes out of range and the car goes into limp mode. The XR5 is tuneable https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...16723726/?Cr=0 |
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I think the decarbonisation cost can’t remember but it wasn’t frightening guessing 300 back than 2015
I used to be able to wheel spin it at lights take off with five on board Tune? It goes well enough. Hills- there isn’t any just accelerates up em on torque all the way |
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XR5 makes 60KW more power, comes on peak torque 250 RPM earlier and holds it about 1500 RPM later than the diesel - the same amount of torque as well, 320nm.
The diesel is trash compared to the XR5, costs more to service and maintain too because diesel. Spend the extra, get the XR5 then sell it afterwards, you have a market of P platers who are keen on it. |
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The TDCi is a secret
Everyone knows about xr5 But both of got over diesel - gor different reasons Those Peugeot diesels are remarkable for long life |
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Or, buy this and sell 3 months later:
https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...16672018/?Cr=9 Same price as the XR5 ![]() |
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Yuck!
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You nailed it. Don't want the boy racer image
![]() ![]() I had thought about a Mondeo Diesel too. But none show up on my search result unless I remove the "manual" criteria... ![]() So what I'm hearing is, there are no "major" issues that would say "don't touch". Ask if timing has been done if its over 200,000kms. Budget for decarb. And if your injectors play up....then you are stuffed! Quote:
https://www.celtictuning.com.au/serv...e-1#t3-content https://www.bsrtuning.com.au/tuning-...Focus/2.0-TDCi https://www.dieseltuningaustralia.co...-focus-100-kw/
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Wife’s friend hubby has an Mondeo powershift diesel
Bought it to replace his last after many Falcons Second hand Runs Gc/ Bris return commute 180 km a day Done 240000 His view best car he s ever owned The motor the same two litre Peugeot ford shared two litre diesel |
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The Mondeo first caught my eye when I had one tailgating me in the 3v. I was in 3rd gear and tried to pull away....to legal limit. It was keeping up pretty well. I let it pass to see what it was, and saw it was a Mondeo TDCi. Googled what the hell that was, and went a little red seeing it was a bloody diesel ![]()
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