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13-09-2011, 10:24 AM | #1 | ||||
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A couple of articles, the first from GoAuto:
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...2579090082A3E5 Quote:
http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/2011...x-months-26657 Quote:
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13-09-2011, 10:51 AM | #2 | ||
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I think there is a lot of positives to be taken from the Go auto edition of what J Mays has said.
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13-09-2011, 11:04 AM | #3 | ||
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Sounds hopeful!
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13-09-2011, 11:13 AM | #4 | ||
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I have a funny feeling that there's life in the old bird yet. I don't think Bailleu would let Broadmeadows close.
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13-09-2011, 11:19 AM | #5 | ||
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Yeah thats not negative at all, its just official fence sitting.
IMO its going to be good news, if its taken this long to sort something out then they are working hard at it. The poo will hit the fan if they become a 100% importer and it will hurt the rest of the range IMO. In saying that how long can the Falcon live? The will always be a D segment IMO, so "all" FoA need to do is tie in with the global effort and style it for our tastes, Id even be happy with the interior/drivetrain being a global effort, just keep RWD. |
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13-09-2011, 11:19 AM | #6 | |||
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Nice links Road Warrior. Thanks.
The usual doom and gloom from Carpoint as you said. Equally, some very positive stuff in the GoAuto article. Very interesting about the Evos, Mad Max concept and Falcon. I thought when the teaser shot of the Evos was released it was the 2015 Mustang. But, the similarities to the FG bonnet bulge, the Mad Max concept and the Evos concept and the grill which could easily be Mustang or Aston Martin is VERY encouraging. I think Ford realise the FG is a great looking car, but it isn't bold enough for a 2015 car. Quote:
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13-09-2011, 11:21 AM | #7 | ||
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Yes IMO FoA being FAP R&D headquarters = falcon living on if the numbers are not atrocious.
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13-09-2011, 11:46 AM | #8 | ||
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So the next falcon is going to look like this? Right on, pull the other one...
Maybe this, mmm...it's already got the G6ET Rims:
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13-09-2011, 11:50 AM | #9 | ||
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I think you can safely say that this front end is now a givin, look at the Tez and FG2 and its a preview...
Grill and squinty lights |
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13-09-2011, 11:52 AM | #10 | ||
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It might not look exactly like that but I think that but I think what he was getting at is that there are some design themes in both vehicles that will translate into the future falcon
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13-09-2011, 11:58 AM | #11 | ||
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It is great to see the engineering and r&d talent and capabilities of Ford Aus being recognized.
This decision would have been due months ago and it comforting to see it has been delayed (several times). The biggest threat would be One Ford and Thailand is an area that has seen, and continues to see, substantial investment from Ford. I know this is stating the obvious but hopefully the once seemingly inevitable Falcon being built on Taurus platform in Thailand with some specific design cues for Aus will not eventuate. Still is where my money would be. One thing is certain in my mind, that Ford Aus is doing a great job of being David and there is still hope against Goliath. I also really like the design direction of Ford Global. Either way the decision needs to be made for the sake of those working at Ford Aus and associated manufacturing. For the sake of morale amongst the other obvious reasons. Supporters of the brand and local content need to support it with their wallets and get behind the brand instead of the constant bickering, whinging and complaining. This is one aspect of the Ford supporter base I still have difficulty understanding. Just my opinion and observation. We should be proud of our local part of the Ford world. |
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13-09-2011, 11:58 AM | #12 | ||
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With the Evos...are the bonnet and front quarters one piece? There is a line under the badge on the flank horizontally, I wonder how it would differ to a full production version.
Bouka the front end of the Evos is bloody fantastic, and would look great as part of a global effort. |
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13-09-2011, 11:59 AM | #13 | |||
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Much like the Torana concept and the VE, it's all about styling cues. Meanwhile, Mr Mays was very smart and diplomatic with his responses. I can see Broadies becoming an assembly plant rather than the full manufacturing business we see now.
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13-09-2011, 12:12 PM | #14 | |||
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13-09-2011, 12:30 PM | #15 | ||
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Sorry and too add.....it does my head in why Ford has not bothered creating a true GRWD car. Merc and BMW have been doing it since day dot and they seem to do well enough with a global design being accepted in all markets. Surely there is an opportunity for a falcon sized global sedan, atleast the architecture anyway. That is my glimmer of hope.
US can use it for Lincoln, we have our falcon, and perhaps even then use the Falcon or a Lincoln style in other countries. Ahhh I want to know now.. |
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13-09-2011, 12:32 PM | #16 | ||
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Thanks for the thread and links Road Warrior. Have been a bit depressed since reading the Sept Wheels mag on the weekend which was full of FPV Taurus this, last falcon that, end of inline six this and Falcon's farewell that.
Its good we will all know one way or the other in the near future. |
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13-09-2011, 12:33 PM | #17 | |||
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13-09-2011, 12:37 PM | #18 | ||
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Taurus so called SHO is a heavy beast and then there's the inherent inefficiency of deliverying power through AWD. If they go that direction I for one, doubt I'll follow.
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13-09-2011, 12:41 PM | #19 | |||
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13-09-2011, 01:00 PM | #20 | ||
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Facelifted Taurus due out soon, you be the judge...
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13-09-2011, 01:27 PM | #21 | |||
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13-09-2011, 01:29 PM | #22 | ||
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The next mondeo through the spy pics also has the headlight shape, that will be the most telling example IMO as its more global than both the taurus and tezz
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13-09-2011, 01:32 PM | #23 | ||
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When is the next all new Taurus due and what platform will it ride on? The D3 platform is pretty old now.
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13-09-2011, 01:34 PM | #24 | |||
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13-09-2011, 01:40 PM | #25 | |||
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13-09-2011, 01:46 PM | #26 | ||
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That's just the facelifted model so it's pointless judging it as it won't be anything like what we might possibly end up with.
The reason the current Taurus is heavy is they needed to beef it up quite a bit take Ecoboost power. It's all-new platform won't have such compromises.
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13-09-2011, 01:59 PM | #27 | ||
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I think that if the next-gen Falcon is built here, it will almost certainly be the last one built here IF the government does not commit to more funding for the auto industry once this round of cash dries up in 2020 (assuming Abbott doesn't axe it before then).
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13-09-2011, 02:03 PM | #28 | ||
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Agreed Falcman but if we're served-up anything like that heinous design support will be very sorely tested. Lets face it, American style tastes are often quite different.
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13-09-2011, 02:21 PM | #29 | |||
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13-09-2011, 02:22 PM | #30 | ||
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id get your orders in for the Ute now?? my guess is volumes may not carry past mid year to support , and Ranger will eat away some sales making it difficult to warrant production ??
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