Cheap Holden 355 Parts Ad - Good For A Giggle!

[smally289]

Hope this isn't a repost, but have a look at this ad. I'd say the seller is not a happy camper!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....E:B:EF:AU:1123

[mik]

oh my......poor bugger, its not nice to get ripped, been in that situ my self :(.

[buggerlugs]

Hasn't he had some support from other E-Bayers out there , Good on him, I'd do the same thing.........

[BLKWDW]

The company who sold that is know to selling inferior parts.(Well mostly known.) Many sites Specifically Aussie V8 have banned them from the site as they were a site sponsor i think. Its not the first person to be ripped of by them and probably wont be the last but all you can do is get the word out there so people know before themselves go off and purchase an unsatisfactory item. Yes i've had a mate ripped of as well from them.

[pottery beige]

Damn phone it aint letting me have a look... Any chance of posting up the add??

[SSD-85]

Makes me wonder how Procrap are still in business...

[BLKWDW]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

Damn phone it aint letting me have a look... Any chance of posting up the add??

Here you go.

have for sale some very low km's 355 stroker parts, less than 2000 ks. These parts have been replaced over several removal and tear downs of my motor.

Brought as a PROCOMP 355 stroker kit and head, manifold, cam kit from Sydney Speed supplies AKA at racing world.

First up is a wonderfull set of valve springs that went soft within 400 ks, next is a set of 7/16 screw in studs 1 is sheared off 2 are bent other than that they are in perfect condition.

I also have a set of big end and main bearings that I never used as the brand new crank needed grinding, It had a 1thou taper and was also barrelled from over polishing, This kit was ordered balanced for the cost of $250 extra and was so out of balance it shook the car severly at 2800 rpm, I thought the needles on my dash were going to shake off.

Up next is a set of pistons and rings, these items have about 1200 ks on them, the rings failed to seat and created a nice smoke haze behind me, they would suit a buyer looking for a unique look to there car SMOKE. 1 piston has a small crack, nothing to worry about as it is barely visible, the teflon coating (or as I call it paint) is worn off, this happened in 2 hours while running in the cam and tunning. These pistons have had 27 thou taken off them as they stuck out of a non decked block that far, they have also had the gudgeon holes honed to alinge them as the pin was very tight in these full floating pistons.

Next is a cam shaft, I was sold it as a solid but its either ground wrong or a hydraulic it is very noisy at the 22 thou clearence as on the cam card, A copy of a camtech cam with a camtech box and cam card. On talking to camtech they DONOT and will not have any thing to do with procomp. This badly made cam also damaged my valves where the collets seat so I also have these up for sale sizes are 2.02 inlet 1.6 exhaust.

OK this was the final straw that made me write this, I was putting the head back together after getting them back from the machine shop, seats cut and new valves, I put the valve stem seals on and realised I had to put the spring seat washers on before them. so i had to remove the seals. I PULLED UP ON THE SEAL TO REMOVE IT AND PULLED THE TOP CEAN OFF THE VALVE GUIDE NOT ONCE BUT TWICE. Im not quite sure whats going on there, either I have super human strenght or these items are super weak, Ill let you be the judge. So I am also selling these there seems to be at least 10 good ones.

By buying my items that are already broken you can save yourself the heart ache of buying off sydney speed AKA at racing world and you will know you are buying rubbish, better still just put the money in a pile in front of you and set it alight where at least you will get some thing usefull out of it, WARMTH

I also have other item from the kit that are just as useless as the rest please contact me if you are interested in any thing. LOL AS IF.

The buy now is a rough estimate of what I have spent to fix every thing so far, its getting close to the $4000 I payed for the kit in the first place, I could have brought a C.O.M.E 355 stroker and head kit for that. And they may have cared if I had a problem.

[mickyyyy]

Some question and answers from the ebay add

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Q: That is gold!! Well done!! Real sorry to hear about your dealings with that bunch but we were also shafted by them big time. We bought heads, ignition and numerous other things. It's all crap, just like their service!! We are still out of pocket for money they owe us but now (surprise, surprise) they won't even answer our calls. Fortunately we were able to afford to go all COME gear now and couldn't be happier but like you, we learnt the hard way!! 29-Dec-09
A: Hi I got the run around off them, I was dealing with 1 guy but after a couple of calls he was always out of the office and was told by any one else there that he was dealing with it and they would get him to call me back. It never happend. Glad you wrote in, these are the reply's that make other people realise this aint a one off or just crap. Cheers thanks for the support.
Q: i bought one of the pro comp dizzys of ebay and they dont fit straight in!...the top of the dizzy is too large in diameter and fouls on the manifold so thats never got used it sits in its box in the shed still. im not going to grind my harrop manifold for a piece of dizzy. 29-Dec-09
A: Hi Yea grind a $900 manifold to get a dissy in that either wont work or stuffs up in 2 weeks. There answer to guide plates that dont line up is to cut them, line them up then weld them together again. Cheers, good to hear from you.
Q: Hey mate - love your work! May I suggest you also hassle Street Machine and try and get them to follow up on these fools - can't be good for them to be associated with such a shonky operation that rips off their readers. Good Luck with it all - hope you get back on the strip soon! 29-Dec-09
A: Hi, Already been on to street machine, did it straight after I advertised here, no response as yet. Ill get back on the strip, but its stuffed my championship for the year, major reason for this add. Cheers thanks for your support.
Q: good work mate i got a pair of clevo alloy rocket covers from them procomp and would not stop leaking oil put 3 sets of gaskets and a rubber set on they are 29-Dec-09
A: Hi, I put a pair of those on the missus 351, didnt leak thou, must of got lucky there. There a quality thou lumps and bumps every where, poorley made and polished not what I was expecting. Cheers thanks for the support.
Q: Good on ya mate have seen there chev ford and holden gear what a joke i cannot beleive ebay still allows them to trade every rod ihave seen has the wrong clearance on the big and little end the cranks are just wild don't even come close to miching up or balancing the heads are all over the place 16 different seat heights there soft nothing lines up they make woefull power ther flow figures are wrong they stole a well known aussie's hard erned r&d by copying his manifolds i have seen flow comparisons on therer manifolds up to 40 cfm!!! difference and the list goes on i hope this gets posted every where for you and i am very sorry to see your hard earned dollars got stollen by theives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 29-Dec-09
A: Hi this has made quiet a posts all over the place, Im real suprised and happy with all the attention its getting. I have there crap manifold as well with the torque ground off, I was discusted when I read on the torque power web site and realised I had brought a plain rip off of there manifold. My heads are the same, seat heights all over the place, in fact every thing you say is true for my kit as well. There just a pack of dogs. Cheers thanks for the support.
Q: Hi, Sorry to hear about your bad luck. My husband & i almost p****d ourselves laughing when reading your description (sorry). You shouldn't feel special though,We built a drag car & used an engine builder we found on ebay & after 2 years of drama & thousands of $$$$ we found out the engine was 200hp shy of what his dyno showed us,so just beware of engine builders on ebay!According to his feedback & any internet site you read he is suppose to be the best. Good luck & stick with it..DONT BACK DOWN 29-Dec-09
A: Hi, I dindt buy my stuff off Ebay, I brought over the phone fron SSS, But this is such a good way to let them know Im not happy and to let other know to stay the hell away from them. Im going to stick with it for quiet a while and this isnt the only way I am going to get at them. Sorry to hear about your problems, 200hp is a lot to be missing, Its way to easy for them to get away with ripping people off. Cheers, thanks for your support.
Q: Hi mate im pretty sure they are using this name as well now direct_engine_parts. Alot of the stuff is the same as AT racing and some things are sold as procomp. Make sure you add this to your list. Cheers. 29-Dec-09
A: It looks that way, I sent him a message asking him why he would sell that and he defended it and reckons he uses it him self. cheers
Q: Ebay and paypal buyer protection are a load of . They are useless. I had a issue with a PS3 game i bought on ebay. I opened up a case and nothing was done to resolve it or to get a refund. All they care about is the seller as thats were they get their money from. Us the buyers are the number. On the other hand procomp as i was looking to buy some roller rockers for my 304 im building but not now. I will also help you keep an eye on them in the event they change names. Well done!!! 29-Dec-09
A: Hi my roller rockers aint broke YET. When they do I will list them if your interested in them , it will safe you all that work putting them on then taking them off again. It will be a easy, remove from packaging and toss in bin. LOL cheers mate thank for the support.
Q: hear nothing but bad things about procomp, surely there can't be that many people that are still willing to take the chance sorry about what happened to you to the guy if he reads it, do a search on eagle stuff a mate had a crank snap in 3 places just cruising on the highway 29-Dec-09
A: Hi If I had known theres no way i would have taken the chance. I only knew about them from reading street machine, they did a 450hp build up for a give away motor, They made them sound top stuff, Last time I buy that crap mag. Cheers.
Q: STICK IT RIGHT UP THEM!!!!! 29-Dec-09
A: Hi thanks for the support
Q: Good stuff mate, I also thought this was common knowledge... anyway, wish you had the counter in your ad, how many views has it had so far ? 29-Dec-09
A: Hi The only thing I knew about them was a street machine mag build up for a give away motor, they made them sound good, LIARS. I dont know how many views, cant find where it says that. I will keep looking cause I would like to know, First time selling. Ive had about 50 messages and there are 83 people watching. Cheers.
Q: hey mate so far we have had good luck with their dizzy's, my commodore is running 12s with one, but have had a fuel pump fail,inlet manifold for chev not fit even close, roller rockers s#%t themselves putting needle rollers through motor, and a mate bought a 355 stroker kit and his engine builder laughed at him as the block needed too much clearancing and wouldnt balance so he bought an scat kit which fit no dramas.... *******F*&*k PROCOMP**** 29-Dec-09
A: Hi The motor I was replacing with this has run 12.6 with there dissy and ignition. My machine shop shook there heads when I started taking all this stuff in for them to fix, they have had a lot of there come in the door. Cheers thanks for the support.
Q: hi if you wont to buy quality parts it cost money i only buy off rocket industries and i never have a problem with engine parts .i rather pay more than buy junk off sydney speed.good luck 29-Dec-09
A: Hi This is my first serious engine build, Ive built a 13.3 sec 308 a 12.6 sec 330 stroker and was look to go faster. I brought this crap on good faith after Street Machine did a 450 hp give away motor from the same parts, and raved about good quality and the proffesinal personal. Cash for comment I now believe. Cheers.
Q: EBAY should be dealing with these thieving . Funny how you need to only make a few complaint about some sellers and they get the boot but im SURE ebay makes so much money on advertising they dont give a SH%$#!T. Current Affair, Today Tonight or 1 of those degenerate programs may like to sink there teeth into this, you should give them a try. Goodluck and i hope something gets done abit this BS. 29-Dec-09
A: Hi they may be worth a try I got nothing to lose. Cheers.
Q: hi,each person that has had there fingers burnt by this seller should list there purchase the same as you have.daniel. 29-Dec-09
A: Hi I wish they would mate, Im hoping now I got the ball rolling I see a lot more listed. Come on people list ya broken Procomp stuff and stick it to them. Cheers.
Q: Don't bother wondering about why you don't get a response from your emails to Procomp USA- it's the US outlet for SSS products! 29-Dec-09
A: Hi I susspected that, I just want to make a lot of noise and make these know there are ways to get at them. Ive also contacted Federal Mogul the makers of speed pro and Felpo, as proconp try to sell there under brand names, may not come to much but if it ****es them off ill be happy. Cheers.
Q: I vaigly remember someone in the past say something about how crap pro comp is however that alone wouldnt have been enough to stop my cheap a** from buying it as I all too often like to learn the hard way. I'm feeling your pain and would prob go postal if all that happened to me so I think I'll learn from your experience and steer well clear from pro comp. its a shame these folk are still in business. 29-Dec-09
A: Hi Yes learn from my experience, I to was a cheap a** and thought I had got a good deal. cheers.
Q: i take my hat of to ya,how on earth does this kind of thing get passed on,there needs to be some kind of stringent testing of parts before they go onto the market,hey i could make a set of conrods from coat hanger wire and sell them.. 29-Dec-09
A: Hi if you could make them I reckon procomp would be interested in selling them for ya, lol. Cheers thanks for your support.
Q: good onya mate hope ebay dont pull ur listing i got caught with a chev high rise manifold that didnt bolt on and was told to use more gaskets to help it seal also some nice shiny roller rockers that fell apart 20 mins into cam break in they didnt want to know or offer any help pro comp are scum i feel for ya keep listing till thay buy it back 29-Dec-09
A: Hi If it gets pulled I will relist. Thanks for your support. I ecxpect my rockers to themselfs as well. Cheers.
Q: hi sorry to hear about your loss. i'm thinking of building a 355 but now i'm a bit concerned. have you heard any bad reports on eagle stroker kits item no. 250552643915 29-Dec-09
A: Hi no aint heard any thing bad about the Eagle kits, A mate of mine has used one and they seem like a good thing. I had a guy respond to this add, he used a C.O.M.E kit and had a few issues, High Performance World are doing a eagle kit for 1500 on there web site, there worth checking out. Cheers.

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Q: i like what you have done, although the guy from AT racing world,isnt the pro comp guy himself, what he does is lists his crap on ebay, you buy it and it gets sent to you directly from sydney speed supplies, it goes on ATs account you pay the AT guy and he pays them,same different guy...right, now i also purchased some rocker covers like three years ago, from sydney speed, long before most were buying crap, they were so badly warped like nearly 6mm i took them back to his store at the summernats, he didnt like the bad rap so he swapped them for me no questions asked, an air fare and ticket to the nats couldnt be too much could it???....but thats why the AT guy doesnt want to help he has to pay himself...contact the procomp guy direct and see how you go, i found him easy to deal with, im sure a phone call and a link to your add may see some cash your way!! 29-Dec-09
A: Hi aready tried talking to them, they rekon I didnt get my crank from them first up and when I persisted they offered me a discount on any thing else I wanted to buy. The biggest problem has been that I fix one thing put it back together and in the car and 2 weeks later its out and apart again, this has been going on since august, this is the 5th tear down. They have stuff my drag session, in tas we have a meet once a month, 6 meets for the year/session, first meet I pulled out cause the smoke it was blowing, missed second meet waiting for parts, pistons, rings and valves and will miss next one waiting to have valve guides done. p****d off. Thanks for the support, Cheers.
Q: gday there, well done mate....this is getting everywhere!! i found it on aussiev8.com forum, where the admin have been threatened with legal action if they dont delete and stop any anti-procomp threads!!!....... what ever youve started is a long time coming!! they even had a stall at summernats.... im really surprised that something much more sinister hasnt happened to sss/atracing/ procomp! BAMMMMMMMMMM 29-Dec-09
A: Hi yea mate I posted it on there, The response has been awsesome from every one. So ive heard its on quiet a few car forums now, the more the better, aussie V8 admin are weak, no other forum has a ban on talking about procomp. Im doing as much as I can to hurt these Ive contacted a couple of companies that have products that procomp have copied, and we all know how the yanks like to sue, lol Thanks for your support, Cheers
Q: Nice work bud. I was gonna settle for one of there flywheels as they are hard to find at a good price. Not happening now. The thing will probably shake loose and cut my legs off.. 28-Dec-09
A: Hi I brought one a those to replace my cast one. Its a tight fit going on to the crank, has to be pulled on with the bolts. The bolt holes have been drilled not quiet in the right place so to fix it they drilled them to a larger size. This makes the holes to big for the bolts and the shoulder on the bolt is what the flywheel is held by, you dont want a loose fit between the two. The fly wheel is also thinner and the bolts have to be shortend or they end up screwed all the way through th crank into the back of the block. I got lucky there I tried to turn the motor by hand and found out, lucky it wasnt by the starter. Cheers.
Q: Good onya fer havin the balls to tell the world of rip off scum ..... hope it works out for ya .... 28-Dec-09
A: Hi by the responses I getting its working very well, its stopped a few people from wasting there money on there , and cost them money. Cheers.
Q: hi mate i brought a pair of sheet metal rocker covers from these arsoles for my vk v8 and had to take booster off to get them on,,and when i did they p****d oil everywhere .not happy ,,would not return money for returned item ,and there gaskets are cheers 28-Dec-09
A: Hi is any thing they sell any good, a set of covers cant be that hard to get right. Cheers.
Q: HI. In your item description at the top of your listing you should use all of the 55 characters available so that more people can find your listing. Use more common words like DRAG RACING SPEEDWAY HOTROD V8 etc . That way more people will find your listing as they are some of the words that i type in when i go looking for stuff on here. I only found your listing from the ozrodders forum. GOODLUCK. Cheers. 28-Dec-09
A: Thanks for the tip will do that. Cheers
Q: well done boss for doing what you can to stick it up em! i have heard nothing but bad reports too 28-Dec-09
A: Hi thanks for the support, Cheers.
Q: So glad I saw this add, I was about to burn my money by the sounds of it. NOT NOW Cheers 28-Dec-09
A: Hi glad its saved you from wasting your money, Another happy customer lol Cheers.
Q: just food for thought!if these scum bags get enough bad feedback they will most likly change there trading name,i will be watching very closly to see if they pop up under another and would be good if others did the same,lets get rid of the assxxxx for good,daniel. 28-Dec-09
A: Yea I had thought that, I am very wary about buying any thing that sold from sydney. I figured out that sydney speed and at racing world were the same when I ordered a set of head studs from at racing world and they came from the same address. I was extremely p****d off that I had gave them more of my money. They also go under another name that was on the boxes the parts came in, American some thing cant remember the mane thou, if I do I will list that as well. Cheers.
Q: I work in the industry and thought id add that its seems their aluminium castings tend to be soft and a lot of the machine work is out. Heard a few cases of valves and seats being pulled into the heads and bolt holes being out and a lot of 'fixing ' needed to be done to make the parts actually work and/or fit. They are cheap... to start with. Too bad you got in so deep. Best of luck. 28-Dec-09
A: Hi yes a bit of work is needed mine had a issue with the push rod holes being drilled a bit off, I was also wondering adout the hardness of the alloy. I will investigate this before I have new guides installed. Cheers.
Q: rip it up man cause they did you little matey..cheers 28-Dec-09
A: Thanks mate, cheers.
Q: Great work buddy,I got stuffed around by them that much when I bought a dissy of them that never worked and now sits lonely on a shelf in the shed,but my lesson not to buy from them came at the cost $200 not $4000,good on ya for trying to stop people making the same mistake. 28-Dec-09
A: Thanks for your support. Cheers.
Q: Great work buddy,I got stuffed around by them that much when I bought a dissy of them that never worked and now sits lonely on a shelf in the shed,but my lesson not to buy from them came at the cost $200 not $4000,good on ya for trying to stop people making the same mistake. 28-Dec-09
A: Hi I have a garbage bin full of there stuff. I hope enough people read this to put a big dent in there profit. Cheers.
Q: Just thought I should mention it, there is an eBay seller named Procomp in USA who doesn't seem to have anything to do with these products. It might be a good thing to mention this so people don't end up thinking that seller is the same as the one you mention, in fact posting the eBay ID of the seller who IS selling the crap might be an option. If eBay choose to kill this listing due to it then that's pretty poor especially if the seller has a string of negatives already over similar past transactions. eBay lost it for me once they allowed people to hide negatives by going private with feedback. It just made it a whole lot easier for scammers to rip others and for people to operate illegal businesses and elude paying tax as regular businesses do. 28-Dec-09
A: the for the heads up I will find there Ebay ID and add it. I have Email procomp USA about these guy, hopping they may sue for using there mane and products.
Q: Maybe if we organise a huge Sims Metal skip to be dropped out the front of their premises, we can a;; arrange to pop on over at the same time. It wouldn't take more than 15 minutes for 50+ people to empty it all into the skip. Can you imagine them franticly trying to stop that from happening while waiting the obligatory 25 minutes for the cops to turn up? P.S. Be safe: safety glasses leather gloves and steel cap boots everyone, we would't want Workcover being dragged into it! 28-Dec-09
A: Thanks for your support, bloody fine idea you got there, that could be worth the air fair up. Cheers.
Q: sorry to hear ya had to find out the hard way mate of mine bought a 383 chev stroker crate from sss and all the gaskets had to be replaced they all leaked water think he had to get new roller rockers wrong ratio and when he last stripped the motor down and had it properly done by mick webb he found out 2 of the bores have been sleeved good to see ya sticking it up them 28-Dec-09
A: Thanks mate, makes you wonder how these are still in buisness. Cheers.
Q: hi mate i know exactly how you feel i was building a motor for a mate with procomp bits just to see if any of it was any good and we stopped at the heads as the brand new harrop manifold didnt fit the heads.on questioning at racing (syd speed) they reconed our block was the problem and argued the point until we proved them wrong and finally got a refund (minis a couple of hundred bucks).one option you have and believe me in your position i would do is to click buy it now on all there products that are listed that way and leave negatave after negative or even threaten to leave negitaves unless the refund all your money.it would pretty much stuff there ebay store for a while and its not as if you have to pay for it all as it seems heaps of other people seem to get away with not paying etc on ebay.just a thought mate see what you recon something has to be done about these . 28-Dec-09
A: Thanks mate, I had thought of that but I dont want to ruin my rating, but thee are ways around it keep watching there rating. If every one brought 2 items off them per week and didnt pay and left negative feed back there rating would be in no time. Cheers.
Q: man great stuff all those who read this should repost it i just looked on youtube at there vids you cant even comment on them this place is a scam great work hope you get ot sorted cheers 28-Dec-09
A: Thanks mate, Cheers.
Q: Thanks mate, i have heard in past about the quality of these procomp products but felt surely that they could not be true in this day and age. Obviously your report and the many others on car forums are correct and these a***hole should cease production immediately. Surely they should have just refunded your money or replaced product? If they replaced product maybe you could have picked out good parts from the two of them - ha ha. Thanks champ info like this is priceless - good luck in future. 28-Dec-09
A: I tried to deal with them over the first problems I had, there response first up was I didnt buy the crank off them, after accepting it was one of there cranks they refused to give any money back, and there best offer was more of there crap at a discount. By the looks of the responses Im getting a full refund would have been cheaper for them. Cheers.
Q: hi there, i was wondering why you wasnt at the last drag meet.i can see why now. good to see some one stick it to them procomp rip offs. hope you got it going for the next round paul 28-Dec-09
A: Thanks, Sorry to say I wont make the next meet either, I have to get new guides put in the heads and my machine shop is closed till the 11th. Cheers.

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Q: good on ya mate i sure will be telling everyone that i know who is in the car scene;and trust me i do know quite a few [sorry about ur loss]. 28-Dec-09
A: Thanks mate, The more people that hear about them the quick they will be out of buissnes. Cheers.
Q: hi bud your add has been posted on alot of car forums and ive read it and also read other peoples comments and your questions seems it aint very good stuff from what i gather these guys would have had more parts come thru the windows of there shop than gone out the door {i hear it has happened quite alot to a mate is looking at 1 of there combos on ebay {the head up package so just wondering is that what u got? this is not the first time ive seen adds like your on ebay warning people and without them lots of other people would lose GIVE YA SELF A PAT ON THE BACK 28-Dec-09
A: Hi, yes I brought the head up package, complete heads, cam, lifters, roller rockers, screw in studs, guide plates. The only parts that are left from the kit is the bare heads and they need the guides repacing, the manifold which needed work to get it to fit, and the guide plates. Tell your mate not to waste his money, you can get YELLA TERRA alloy from Victorian performance whare house for just under $1900, he will burn that kind of money buying and fixing the PROCOMP CRAP. Cheers thank for your support.
Q: gday mate im very sorry 4 ur loss;as a lot of people have been riped by them [we all know who]some thing has got to be done about it cause they have been selling rubish can only be used as pot stands; i will never buy anything from them in my lifetime a loy of people have taken 4 a ride;the only thing we can do is make sure u tell everyone u know in the car seen to watch out for rip off bustards;like them.ebay has to do something about them and worry about thier little fees they are making off them 4 heaps of listing;a lot of people i talk to wont go near ebay cause im sure they know they rippind people off;trust me watch KARMA bite them on the a**;sorry about ur loss. 28-Dec-09
A: Hi thanks for the support, Ive been puttting links to this add every where and just finnished airing my problems with procomp USA. My intention is to cause as much for these as possible. Ive taken it up the a#s til now, now its there turn. LOL I intented to screw these bastards over no matter how long it takes.
Q: MATE YOUR A LEGEND! 27-Dec-09
A: Thanks
Q: I am sorry to hear about the absolute crap rip-off that happened to you. 10 points for placing the information on the net so that other people do not get shafted. What ever happened to people giving a about their craftmanship and reputation? What goes around comes around. hopefully some bad stuff happen to them in the near future.... Chin-up mate. 27-Dec-09
A: Hi, If this add is costing them money im happy, Im hopping lots of people are saved from making the same mistake I have. Cheers thanks for the support.
Q: sorry to hear m8 but way to go with the add! lets a lot of new people realise the quality of there products. keep up the good work!!! 27-Dec-09
A: Thanks for your support. Cheers
Q: i thought that everyone new that procomp was crap at least they do now u also forgot to mention that they stole other peoples designs and hard work (torque power) ect good on ya mate 27-Dec-09
A: Hi yea forgot to mention that its all a copy, speed pro pistons a copy, inlet manifold torque power copy, crank harrop copy, gaskets felpro copy,cam camtech copy. These companys should sue the out of them. that give me a great idea I will contact these companies and stir them into doing some thing about them stealing there designs.
Q: that description is gold sorry to hear ya bad luck mate i almost p****d meself with your description lol lmfao i love it 27-Dec-09
A: Hi Ive saved a few people some money, cost them money and gave people a laugh. Best $4.50 I ever spent. Cheers and thank for your support.
Q: hey champion, that sounds really terrible for you! don't know if you can be bothered, but maybe you should post some pics up as well showing off the parts. would give something towards your cause...just a thought hey. good luck, brett 27-Dec-09
A: Hi took some pics today will post them for all to see. Cheers and thanks for your support.
Q: many thanks for making us aware of these issues, you have no doubt saved me money and hopefully many others as well. Brian 27-Dec-09
A: HI, Glad it stopped you from making the same mistake I did. Your the second person to that this add stopped from being ripped off by these theives. Cheers.
Q: Good on ya mate, about time someone stuck it to these rip off bastards, they are an absolute disgrace to the car scene. 27-Dec-09
A: Thats for sure, thanks for the support. Cheers.
Q: hi,i was about to buy a 355 procomp stroker kit from this mob.it ain't gunna happen now.thanks for the info.hope a lot more read your info.regards daniel. 27-Dec-09
A: Glad you read it before you made the same mistake I did. There were other problems as well rod side clearence, head gaskets with a 8 thou gap, guide plates dont line up ect, If I save other people from there crap, atleast it aint all been a waste of time and money. Cheers

[pottery beige]

Cheer's for the post up's... Man that's some nasty gear.....

[Scooter]

Now if only we could get some of those dodgy "Nigerian" scammers to try and buy crap off this mob, and see who is a better con artist? I would pay to see that!

[rag top]

has been posted a few times:

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11283580

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11251431

[302 XC]

well the 308s are called plastic motors LOL
poor bugger
the advantage of online everyone hears or reads about it

[ebxr8240]

Originally Posted by rag top

has been posted a few times:

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11283580

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11251431

In this case ... It's o/k...

[The G6ET Spot]

Originally Posted by Scotty85

Makes me wonder how Procrap are still in business...

It is because of poor blokes like this that they are still there.

[peeds13]

No wonder why they have cheap crate engines!

[Kamshaaft]

Originally Posted by nerida67

well the 308s are called plastic motors LOL
poor bugger
the advantage of online everyone hears or reads about it

..what? the Holden 308/304s are some of the strongest engines around.

[afroboy]

He posted it a second time but it has been pulled by ebay. SSS must have complained

[smally289]

Originally Posted by afroboy

He posted it a second time but it has been pulled by ebay. SSS must have complained

Yeah, well if they got upset and pulled their ads, ebay would lose half their items!!

[302 XC]

kamshaaft,
the term "308s are plastic motors" has been around for a long time,well before people actually realised their potential back when power upgrades for the 308 was a chevy motor replacement

[Kamshaaft]

Ah, I see. I'd never heard it before mate. :|

[greenfoam]

The term plastic motor comes from the various Alloy parts on the Holden V8, manifold timing cover water pump etc. Back in the day for Chev guys that was kinda freak and "plastic". But yes they are _very_ strong, I haven't seen one break yet after filming at least 200 burnouts of cars with Holden V8's in them. I think I've seen every other motor fail at least once. The RB30 is often quoted as being strong but it will often fail in a burnout comp as will Windosor V8's. Both the Holden and Ford 6 are pretty strong (better than a RB at this kind of torture)

[302 XC]

the 308s are a very good motor for sure
i think they have won more races in australian motor racing history than any other motor (maybe another thread ??? as for what motor size won what ???)
IMO id have a ford 6 over an rb for burnouts anyday (wait for it )

[Iggypoppin']

308/304 are great BFYB skid car motors, we wouldn't run them, as ford boys too, unless we trusted them.
As for this procomp mob, glad I've seen this and other testimonials, make sure never to use their crap