Throwing things at vehicles needs bigger deterant!

prydey · 25-04-2010, 09:17 AM

what is it with some kids?

throwing eggs at cars..

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...-1225857900215

throwing a bollard!! at a truck..

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/s...-1225857621403

luckily there were no casualties but the consequences could so easily have been different, esp with the bollard.

i must admit, i have to travel under a few underpasses/bridges in my travels and i do find myself looking these days to make sure nothing comes through my windscreen. occasionally you see kids up there and you just hope its not your turn.

given the age of most of the culprits, i'm guessing most get off with little more than a reprimand, and it probably becomes some sort of status thing in the playground/schoolyard.

**DJM83** · 25-04-2010, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by prydey

what is it with some kids?

throwing eggs at cars..

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...-1225857900215

throwing a bollard!! at a truck..

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/s...-1225857621403

luckily there were no casualties but the consequences could so easily have been different, esp with the bollard.

i must admit, i have to travel under a few underpasses/bridges in my travels and i do find myself looking these days to make sure nothing comes through my windscreen. occasionally you see kids up there and you just hope its not your turn.

given the age of most of the culprits, i'm guessing most get off with little more than a reprimand, and it probably becomes some sort of status thing in the playground/schoolyard.

I always look up as i pass under an overpass just hoping 'its not my turn'. But it seems its a case of the punishment never fits the crime

Jim Goose · 25-04-2010, 09:43 AM

Unfortunately it boils down to lack of education and guideance from their parents. One has to wonder why there is kids as young as 10yrs of age wandering the street at night. (and yes i have seen younger).

Most of the time they seem to think its "funny" that they cause an accident.

I can recall a story about kids playing chicken with cars outside their school, with several near misses reported. They thought it was "fun" also.

If that is their attitude now, can you imagine what their attitude will be like when they are 17 or 18??

**DJM83** · 25-04-2010, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Goose

Unfortunately it boils down to lack of education and guideance from their parents. One has to wonder why there is kids as young as 10yrs of age wandering the street at night. (and yes i have seen younger).

Most of the time they seem to think its "funny" that they cause an accident.

I can recall a story about kids playing chicken with cars outside their school, with several near misses reported. They thought it was "fun" also.

If that is their attitude now, can you imagine what their attitude will be like when they are 17 or 18??

And probably get worse with ages if it isnt knocked on the head now (Attitude, not kid

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pottery beige · 25-04-2010, 09:57 AM

THere was that serial rock thrower in Adelaide a while back, nearly killed some poor bloke.
When they caught the scum bag, he happened to be a few spanner's short up top.
Even more reason to be well and truly locked away for a very long time......

BIGJB · 25-04-2010, 09:58 AM

Sadly this sort of crap has been goin on since the 1st overpass was built.
I recall when I was a kid them calling a special school assembly addressing this exact issue.
I cringe everytime I go under an overpass in fear some tool will throw something over the edge.
Or worse still one of my drivers a few yrs ago was driving a little Izuzu fridge truck and had
some fool throw himself off the over pass come through windscreen and land in his lap.
All overpass bridges should be caged!! Only way to keep the motorist safe.

sgt_doofey · 25-04-2010, 10:00 AM

I drive that road every day, it's scary the hear that has happened. I'll have to keep my eye out there from now on! It was one of the safety bollards that are all around that area due to the massive road works going on for the Northern expressway.
These are probably the same kids that think it's funny to throw rocks at the trains. It's a regular occurrence catching the train out to Gawler. Thankfully the windows are perspex so they don't shatter.

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sgt_doofey · 25-04-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by T2TE50#134

All overpass bridges should be caged!! Only way to keep the motorist safe.

If it's the one I think it is, then it's an actual road, single lane each way, which is closed due to the construction going on there. There are now three overpasses there, two of the fly over roads are closed and the third is still open. I'd put money on this occurring from one of the overpasses that is closed.

pottery beige · 25-04-2010, 10:10 AM

Many year's ago had some POS's chuck a rock at my hi lux, spot light's on and in pursuit, up gutter's and through a fence........
Little ********'s were lucky it was a sluggy old diesel......

prydey · 25-04-2010, 10:50 AM

i shudder to think what a bollard may have done to a car.

mik · 25-04-2010, 11:08 AM

they need to cage these overpasses, its the only way i think.

MAV50L · 25-04-2010, 11:22 AM

Society has gone down hill in a big way since it became illegal to smack your kids.
People are not learning that there are consequences to everything you do and every decision you make.
Makes you wonder what is better for a person. To cop a smack and a grounding at an early age and learn some respect and understanding that you be a tool you get punished , or to let them go through life doing what they want , when they want until the day comes that they kill someone.
The bleeding hearts and rose coloured glasses brigade has a lot to answer for.
Unfortunately we have more then one of those members here................

jpd80 · 25-04-2010, 11:34 AM

Sydney police failed to jump on a band of kids around 15-20 years ago who turned into absolute louts,
they now have become adults and role models for all the kids coming behind them. This same scenario has played out in the other capitol and regional cities too, so now we have not only an ignorant arrogant youth population but a bunch of miscreant adults acting as mentors and supporters....

Very sad the way Australia is becoming just like everywhere else...

Jim Goose · 25-04-2010, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MAV50L

Society has gone down hill in a big way since it became illegal to smack your kids.
People are not learning that there are consequences to everything you do and every decision you make.
Makes you wonder what is better for a person. To cop a smack and a grounding at an early age and learn some respect and understanding that you be a tool you get punished , or to let them go through life doing what they want , when they want until the day comes that they kill someone.
The bleeding hearts and rose coloured glasses brigade has a lot to answer for.
Unfortunately we have more then one of those members here................

That is a popular misconception.... There is no law about smacking kids.
Abusing a child (beating them) and smacking are two different things.

Its boils down to lazy parents who dont care and use any excuse under the sun for their lack of parenting.

I cringe every time I hear this myth about "its illegal"....

svo supporter · 25-04-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Goose

Unfortunately it boils down to lack of education and guideance from their parents. One has to wonder why there is kids as young as 10yrs of age wandering the street at night. (and yes i have seen younger).

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Mate, it's not the result of guidence from parents. It's as a result of the bloody wowsers saying you can't disapline (spelling) kids the way we used to be.

The schools are drumming into the kids heads, that if your parent/s give you a backhander, or wrap a jug cord round your ***, you report your parent/s to child services (or what ever they're called) and your parent/s are the ones in the ********.

I have kids going to school ATM and the teachers drill them if they see a bruise on them. It's checking to see whether one of the parents has given him or her a biffin to pull them back into line.

That's the reason there is so many ferals running rampant in society now. Most parents are too ******** scared they're the ones going to be hauled in front of the courts and locked up for showing guidance, in the same fashion they were.

And yes, I am talking from experience. While I wasn't locked up, I did get hauled over the coals by child services for using my boot up one of my kids ***. I caught him/her throwing a rock at a house. Just as my foot went up their ***, Officer plod came down the street and busted me.

So don't blame the parent/s for the feral kids. Blame wowsers for not allowing parent/s to disapline them properly

bobthebilda · 25-04-2010, 11:48 AM

Theres alot of uneducated ill advised people who get a kick out of throwing things at cars, to the detriment of the rest of us. Its just done for a cheap thrill, as the person lacks meaning in their life.

Take for example, the politicians who throw bucket loads of cash at Holdens.

prydey · 25-04-2010, 11:51 AM

one of the problems i see is that if the young ones are given some form of punishment, like dragging them through a trauma ward or making them do comunity service, you get some other wowser group argueing that it is causing long term mental/phsychological damage to the poor little child, etc etc resulting in very little discipline at all.

to broaden the topic somewhat, its not just overpasses. vandalism in general is worsening. my brother had a brick thrown through the windscreed of his stagea friday night. not sure if car was parked on the street or in a drive. i'm glad i have double lock up. too many stories of this behaviour on the forums and news.

maybe if the boys in blue stopped focussing on the maniacs doing 63 in a 60, they might notice someone carrying a bollard onto a bridge!

edit - please don't turn this into a 'which parental method is best' debate. thats a slippery slope that will end in a locked thread.

svo supporter · 25-04-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bobthebilda

Theres alot of uneducated ill advised people who get a kick out of throwing things at cars, to the detriment of the rest of us. Its just done for a cheap thrill, as the person lacks meaning in their life.

Take for example, the politicians who throw bucket loads of cash at Holdens.

Intelligent response there mate.

What you're saying here is, leave the company fold, throw plenty of people out of work (including suppliers to this company), give no hope for any kid to score a job in the industry, therefore having more feral kids running rampant on the streets causing even more havic.

I'd really suggest you think before commenting like this next time

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PRYDEY. I'm with you over the form of punishment. Make these little ferals clean up the mess they caused to begin with. Then they can tell their mates what it's like having to deal with the carnage they created, instead of our emergency service people

bobthebilda · 25-04-2010, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by svo supporter

Intelligent response there mate.

What you're saying here is, leave the company fold, throw plenty of people out of work (including suppliers to this company), give no hope for any kid to score a job in the industry, therefore having more feral kids running rampant on the streets causing even more havic.

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Thanks SVO, I assume when you said intelligent response, you meant that as a compliment. But then I thought that if a Kid was causing havic, he could go back to school, get a better education, and when he did a spelling test at a job selection, he could write havoc.

XAGSV8 · 25-04-2010, 12:38 PM

Egg's are one thing but a bollard to me is attempted murder. I use them everyday and they are heavy and very solid so young children would have trouble lifting them over the overpass. Just my opinion.

tick6vct · 25-04-2010, 12:49 PM

i think boredom in conjunction with a lack of positive things to do (or a lack of positive motivation and disipline) is a reason behind a lot of vandalism by the younger ones. like the ones who keyed my old mans g8 or attempted to blow up my letter box a few months back....

asusdragon · 25-04-2010, 12:53 PM

Dont worry its not just overpass either few years back my missus was coming home from work and there was an area of land that was undeveloped around the corner from us. Some kid(s) threw a rock from over the hill that hit her car right in the windscreen water drain about 2cm before the window. As it was plastic it shattered the whole thing. Bloody lucky my missus wasnt going say a 1km faster or the kid threw the rock a second later as it would of hit the windscreen.
Though as soon as she got home, she was pretty unset and shaken. I got straight into my car and headed up there, going to teach them a lesson or at least make them pay for the damage but they were already gone.

mik · 25-04-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by svo supporter

Mate, it's not the result of guidence from parents. It's as a result of the bloody wowsers saying you can't disapline (spelling) kids the way we used to be.

The schools are drumming into the kids heads, that if your parent/s give you a backhander, or wrap a jug cord round your ***, you report your parent/s to child services (or what ever they're called) and your parent/s are the ones in the ********.

I have kids going to school ATM and the teachers drill them if they see a bruise on them. It's checking to see whether one of the parents has given him or her a biffin to pull them back into line.

That's the reason there is so many ferals running rampant in society now. Most parents are too ******** scared they're the ones going to be hauled in front of the courts and locked up for showing guidance, in the same fashion they were.

And yes, I am talking from experience. While I wasn't locked up, I did get hauled over the coals by child services for using my boot up one of my kids ***. I caught him/her throwing a rock at a house. Just as my foot went up their ***, Officer plod came down the street and busted me.

So don't blame the parent/s for the feral kids. Blame wowsers for not allowing parent/s to disapline them properly

you are spot on , a while ago someone was talking about this , the mention of straps wooden spoon rulers , etc etc for discipline came up, someone piped up and said no way would i use a weapon against my child ..........i nearly fell off my chair laughing, i grew up in that era, it never hurt me and taught me you do the wrong thing you get your *** kicked, and look where we are now......90 year old man in wheel chair beaten and robbed....daily occurence, gang violence sadly i now think of Australia .....as little America.

uranium_death · 25-04-2010, 02:51 PM

A fecking massive kick up the **** is a good start, rather than motherly judges who determine that the turds really didn't mean any harm...

I am sorry...but people know that you don't do things like that...whatever they get they deserve. In the case of those kids, they are often too young for prison, so I would like to see many, many hours of community service.

The kids that are bored need a hobby. Sport, music, reaing, art, cars, bikes...whatever! There are HEAPS of things out there to keep kids occupied...there is no excuse as 'nothing to do'.

**DJM83** · 25-04-2010, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mik

you are spot on , a while ago someone was talking about this , the mention of straps wooden spoon rulers , etc etc for discipline came up, someone piped up and said no way would i use a weapon against my child ..........i nearly fell off my chair laughing, i grew up in that era, it never hurt me and taught me you do the wrong thing you get your *** kicked, and look where we are now......90 year old man in wheel chair beaten and robbed....daily occurence, gang violence sadly i now think of Australia .....as little America.