4.11's + 3000rpm Hi Stall?

[EF Futura 07]

just wondering about the gears and stally.

just say my car ran a 16 sec flat 1/4. stock standard,

if i were to put 4.11's and a 3000 stally how much would this cut off my time?

[sphell]

Not sure how much time it would wipe off but it'd definately get you off the line a hell of a lot quicker. Changing the diff ratio is one of the best mods you can do IMO.

[galapogos01]

nfi. but it would be MUCH more fun to drive

[mcflux]

seconded!

4.11s + 3000rpm stall + a good cam for your I6 should work wonders. 4.11s may hinder progress down the 2nd half of the 1/4, but for 1/8 or traffic light grand prix action you'll be King Of The Hill <tm>

[EF Futura 07]

just wondering, because as you can tell by my signature i have a EF.

its only a second car and i was gunna spend about 5k too add some bling (so to speak) 18's/superlows/stereo etc etc.

its in better than average condition for age so iv thought about turning it into a sleeper- chuck some superlows on and thats it for the body side.

how hard would it be to get it into the high 14's/ low 15's?

wat mods would wipe 1-1.5 seconds of stock quarter times? :

EDIT. im on p plates so turbo is out. :

[bentles]

manual exhaust cam and diff..
screw a highstall.

also will fit well under your budget and run low mid ish 14 considering you're running a 16 flat with an auto already.

t5 and 3.7 diff and a 977b and pacies and 2.5" mandrel exhaust

[EF Futura 07]

manual sounds more fun

yer the only thing i dont like about stally is the fact that you have to cruise around on 1/2 throttle all the time just to keep moovin. they are good for launch though :

would love to run a high 14 with a I6, that would equal around 6.8-7 seconds to 100, sounds like that would annoy the 8 boys

[Grechie]

with 4.11's and high stall, the car will launch real good, and it will scare alot of commo's LOL

[EF Futura 07]

yer as you mite know the btrs first gear(3.08diff) 90ks is just way to tall along with 2nd 145. with 4.11's it will be 67ks and 110. sounds alot quicker 2 me : : would be interesting just to see wat the 1/4 will be by adding 4.11's, its got to be close to 0.5 seconds?

[SVT8]

Just on the topic of 4.11 diff's, doesnt the gears throw your speedo out of whack? How do you actually recalibrate your speedo to adjust to the gears you put in your car?

[EF Futura 07]

u get something calibrated. i think it is the speedo gear! anyone tell SVT8 otherwise?

[malta123]

on the diff front whats involved in going to 4.11 as i have also have been interesterd comming from a single wheeler do you need to change the housing for a complete ls or is it just a matter of getting a set of gears and an lsd center and screwing it together its a bit of a gray area for me can you do it your self or does it need to be set up at a shop

[EF Futura 07]

yep just get gears and lsd and bolt them in, it can be done outside a shop and many people in the forum have done it, i myself wouldnt try LOL but depending on where you go, new gears and new lsd can be fitted for around $1400. :

[EF Futura 07]

yep just get gears and lsd and bolt them in, it can be done outside a shop and many people in the forum have done it, i myself wouldnt try LOL but depending on where you go, new gears and new lsd can be fitted for around $1400. :

[EF Futura 07]

yep just get gears and lsd and bolt them in, it can be done outside a shop and many people in the forum have done it, i myself wouldnt try LOL but depending on where you go, new gears and new lsd can be fitted for around $1400. :



EDIT sorry about 3 post.

my computer went spastic

[OED666]

to correct your speedo, you can buy a jaycar speedo corrector kit.

you can also fit an XD 3 speed auto speedo transducer and this will correct your speedo reading if you fit 3.9's. But if you have an auto, the shift points will be screwed.

you can fit 4.11's to your open centre, but i would suggest a LSD, or fit a lock-rite to your open centre. lock-rite is the way to go.

i dropped 0.9 of a second off my qtr times, after fitting a 5 speed and 3.9's. I probably could have taken a complete second off if i could launch like i do now. oh well... 13.82 FTW

[EF Futura 07]

geeze 1 second with man conversion and gears, sounds good. buy the way,

Nice Car OED666

[malta123]

sorry to hi jack

my problem is i need to do this cheap ie wrecker if i get an lsd center do i need spacific lsd gears to suit or will single wheel gears bolt up to the center im just really keen to do it but have no idea when it comes to diffs and what cars to steall them out of ie lsd out of comendor or otherwise i know they all use borgworners

[EF Futura 07]

no need for special gears, your single wheel ones you are refering too would be 3.08:1(i think, what model you have?) an lsd would bolt straight up, go to reckers or egay, and get a lsd out of a EF/EL XR. they have a 3.45 ratio standard.

but when you do get lsd take it and get it checked and get it tightened(new spring).

[ratter]

Originally Posted by EF Futura 07

yer the only thing i dont like about stally is the fact that you have to cruise around on 1/2 throttle all the time just to keep moovin.

You don't

[EF Futura 07]

Originally Posted by ratter

You don't

yes i know, that was just a point that i made( just compared to a standard stally) :1syellow1

[private9]

Originally Posted by EF Futura 07

manual sounds more fun

yer the only thing i dont like about stally is the fact that you have to cruise around on 1/2 throttle all the time just to keep moovin. they are good for launch though :

would love to run a high 14 with a I6, that would equal around 6.8-7 seconds to 100, sounds like that would annoy the 8 boys

Common misconception there on stalls. While some of the old school stuff is quite slippery, as long as you get the right one, it will be nice and tight and drive much like a stocker.

My EL had a 3000 stall (designed for turbo, so only peaked at 2700 NA) and you really couldn't pick it as modified if you were just potting around gently. It was only when you gave it a bit that you noticed the converter. Very entertaining though, and combined with a 3.45 LSD it had the car kicking sideways off the line whenever you put your foot down.

If you do go the converter, just make sure you get a decent trans cooler as well, as your transmission oil temps will go through the roof without a cooler.

[OED666]

Originally Posted by malta123

sorry to hi jack

my problem is i need to do this cheap ie wrecker if i get an lsd center do i need spacific lsd gears to suit or will single wheel gears bolt up to the center im just really keen to do it but have no idea when it comes to diffs and what cars to steall them out of ie lsd out of comendor or otherwise i know they all use borgworners

unfortunately to do it properly you cant do it on the cheap. i have probably spent over $3000 of diffs alone. Scary thought now i think about it.

[schnoods]

I'd go for 3.9's before 4.11's.

Especially on a torquey 6 that wont rev much (if at all) past 6k.

For a torque converter plus diff gears, plus speedo corrector you'd be looking at $2700 odd and you would benefit more with a adjustable shift kit too (around $200 fitted).

For around 1500 i'd be getting the gears and a cam regrind and doing a high 14 or low 15, then look to another area like exhaust and head work to get better results.

Unless your going for serious power the stock converter will hold up well. Depends whether a couple of tenths is worth a grand.

[trick_xd]

Shameless plug ... I have a diff thats tuff .... 4.11s and spooled
600$ and its yours (allso have speedo corrector kit as well)

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by private9

Common misconception there on stalls. While some of the old school stuff is quite slippery, as long as you get the right one, it will be nice and tight and drive much like a stocker.

My EL had a 3000 stall (designed for turbo, so only peaked at 2700 NA) and you really couldn't pick it as modified if you were just potting around gently. It was only when you gave it a bit that you noticed the converter. Very entertaining though, and combined with a 3.45 LSD it had the car kicking sideways off the line whenever you put your foot down.

If you do go the converter, just make sure you get a decent trans cooler as well, as your transmission oil temps will go through the roof without a cooler.

Do you still have the stall?

[EF Futura 07]

thanks guys for all the info, and thanks TRICK_XD for the offer but ill wait till tax time before i start modding .

yer thats what i will probly do, gears/lsd/cam and a bit of a tune (clean injectors/plugs/leads/fuel filter) then see how i go!

[FRDPWR]

if your after 4'11s, look in the forsale section ive got one for sale, full diff bolt strait in

[private9]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Do you still have the stall?

Yep, though it's no longer in a car!

[mcflux]

make an offer Al :P

You're probably looking at around $250 fitted (including trans fluid, knock off around $50 if your old fluid is being reused, ie it's relatively fresh) <-- I'm talking about additional costs on top of purchase of a stally, so Stally + $250 = it's in your car.