Vfacts March 2024

[Rob 351]

Ranger keeps powering on while Tesla outsells Hilux…

https://www.drive.com.au/news/vfacts...new-car-sales/

[Franco Cozzo]

F150 is doing better than Puma and it's some mongoloid conversion special with recalls up the wazoo

[Rob 351]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

F150 is doing better than Puma and it's some mongoloid conversion special with recalls up the wazoo

And outselling Silverado already!
Makes you wonder why Chevrolet is here! If that’s all they sell what’s the point really! Doesn’t add up…

[Sprintey]

The slowdown they keep warning of is like Waiting for Godot.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

The slowdown they keep warning of is like Waiting for Godot.

Or going shopping with your girlfriend/wife/situationship/friend with benefits/side piece

[Sprintey]

Everest with 2264 is massive.

[Sprintey]

Always thought friend with benefits was just the benefits. So you have to shop with them too?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

Always thought friend with benefits was just the benefits. So you have to shop with them too?

Dunno, never had one

[DFB FGXR6]

Top 10 Brands -

Toyota 18,961 +43.4%
Ford 8776 +35.3%
Mazda 8246 0.0%
Mitsubishi 7866 +34.2%
Kia 7070 +10.4%
Tesla 6017 +68.2%
Hyundai 5985 +11.5%
Nissan 4976 +46.2%
Isuzu Ute 4351 -4.0%
MG 3949 -1.4%


Top 10 Models -

Ford Ranger - 5661
Toyota RAV4 - 5070
Tesla Model Y - 4379
Toyota HiLux - 3995
Mitsubishi Outlander - 2764
Isuzu D-Max - 2465
Ford Everest - 2264
Nissan X-Trail - 2161
Toyota LandCruiser - 2159
Mazda CX-5 - 2134

Ford -

Ford Escape - 51
Ford Everest - 2,264
Ford F150 - 238
Ford Fiesta - 0
Ford Focus - 0
Ford Mustang - 3
Ford Mustang Mach-E - 56
Ford Puma - 178
Ford Ranger 4X2 - 526
Ford Ranger 4X4 - 5,135
Ford Transit Bus - 5
Ford Transit Custom - 212
Ford Transit Heavy - 108
Ford Total - 8,776

[Sprintey]

https://www.drive.com.au/news/toyota...rd-march-2024/

"The record result for the current RAV4 – introduced five years ago – is despite a new-generation model being about 12 to 18 months away, Drive has previously reported.

Many customers at the back of the queue today – who may face a long wait time due to a particular colour combination or model grade – could be one of the first to take delivery of the next model."


Imagine waiting so long you get the next generation model to the one you road tested.

[jpd80]

At some point, Ford will figure out that Mach E (56) simply cannot compete with Tesla Y (4,379)

[prydey]

New gen Everest is really taking the fight to landcruiser.

An uncle of mine bought one, upgrading from a 100 series. He wanted another cruiser but couldn't justify the money being asked for a new one these days. Wait time was similar for both cars... Over 12 months for his Everest.

I assume supply is better now.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Two Ford models in the top 10. When was the last time that happened?

And more mustang mach e sold than normal mustangs. The buyers have spoken

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Top 10 Brands -

Toyota 18,961 +43.4%
Ford 8776 +35.3%
Mazda 8246 0.0%
Mitsubishi 7866 +34.2%
Kia 7070 +10.4%
Tesla 6017 +68.2%
Hyundai 5985 +11.5%
Nissan 4976 +46.2%
Isuzu Ute 4351 -4.0%
MG 3949 -1.4%

Has MG run out of steam?

Mazda needs new models. The Mazda 6 is over 10 years old!

[smoo]

Originally Posted by jpd80

At some point, Ford will figure out that Mach E (56) simply cannot compete with Tesla Y (4,379)

What is the story there, supply issues, over priced, inferior vehicle?
Are Ford even advertising these?

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Dunno, never had one

Reverse psychology on those tinder profiles.
No FWB, No ONS ‘I’m not that kind of girl’ gives a politician a run for their money for going back on their word.

[fatgas]

Does VFAVCTS even matter anymore now that no cars are manufactured here?

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by fatgas

Does VFAVCTS even matter anymore now that no cars are manufactured here?

Yes it does as we can see which brands and models are the most popular.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by jpd80

At some point, Ford will figure out that Mach E (56) simply cannot compete with Tesla Y (4,379)

Especially after today's price drop on the Y. If they drop the Mach E to Model Y prices, I'd buy one.

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[kypez]

Originally Posted by smoo

What is the story there, supply issues, over priced, inferior vehicle?

Are Ford even advertising these?

Less range, less space, less chargers but $20k more than the market leader. It was dead the minute they announced pricing in Australia.

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[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by kypez

Less range, less space, less chargers but $20k more than the market leader. It was dead the minute they announced pricing in Australia.

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Ford Australia will discontinue it, turn around and say Australian customers only want Thailand Specials, even though the Model Y sells 4000 units a month

[Sprintey]

It's mad logic but it has consistently worked for them.

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

Has MG run out of steam?

Mazda needs new models. The Mazda 6 is over 10 years old!

Pretty sure it's discontinued.
CX3 and CX9 are a little old, but otherwise their models are all fresh.

[whynot]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

Mazda needs new models. The Mazda 6 is over 10 years old!

From what I recall, Mazda have been dithering over replacing the 6 due to question marks over the viability of the sedan segment. Media reports indicate the Mazda 6 replacement is due in 2025 and will go upmarket.

And while I am a fan of the bottom end of their range (e.g. 3, CX-5), I am not sure about Mazda's attempt to go upmarket with the CX-90 and CX-60. Sure, they look nice. But, for the cost of the CX-6/90, they don't seem to have the engineering polish of say an Audi, BMW, et al. Lots of little engineering niggles (rough ride, drivetrain snatch, etc). Mazda have their work cut out not to get pushed out of their niche.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by kypez

Especially after today's price drop on the Y. If they drop the Mach E to Model Y prices, I'd buy one.

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Why did they drop pricing? Seems like as long as ships get in they are all sold beforehand?

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Why did they drop pricing? Seems like as long as ships get in they are all sold beforehand?

That's what Tesla has traditionally done. They keep dropping prices as components get cheaper. It's why Hertz, etc stopped buying them because it hurt resale with the price drops.

Teslas view is very different to legacy. They will increase and drop in line manufacturing cost.

Also, because they can and still remain profitable per unit. Few more competitors entering the market so better to get ahead of them.

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[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Ford Australia will discontinue it, turn around and say Australian customers only want Thailand Specials, even though the Model Y sells 4000 units a month

Just did a quick comparo with no options & trying to match USA Mach E to Australian specs.....

Tesla Y from $69,505 to $89,303 d/away. (In Aust)

In the US a Mustang Mach E ranges from
$62,433 to $94,000 drive away (this is converted to $AUD).

At the moment on the top spec Mach E there is a equivalent $AUD 13,300 incentive so say in Los Angeles it's $AUD 81,126 d/away.

In Australia Mach E's range from:
$80,573 to $115,008 d/away. That's $AUD33K above the US price on a closely specced GT and it's built in RHD from factory.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Just did a quick comparo with no options & trying to match USA Mach E to Australian specs.....



Tesla Y from $69,505 to $89,303 d/away. (In Aust)



In the US a Mustang Mach E ranges from

$62,433 to $94,000 drive away (this is converted to $AUD).



At the moment on the top spec Mach E there is a equivalent $AUD 13,300 incentive so say in Los Angeles it's $AUD 81,126 d/away.



In Australia Mach E's range from:

$80,573 to $115,008 d/away. That's $AUD33K above the US price on a closely specced GT and it's built in RHD from factory.

Yep! It's terrible pricing locally. Shame really.

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[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Just did a quick comparo with no options & trying to match USA Mach E to Australian specs.....

Tesla Y from $69,505 to $89,303 d/away. (In Aust)

In the US a Mustang Mach E ranges from
$62,433 to $94,000 drive away (this is converted to $AUD).

At the moment on the top spec Mach E there is a equivalent $AUD 13,300 incentive so say in Los Angeles it's $AUD 81,126 d/away.

In Australia Mach E's range from:
$80,573 to $115,008 d/away. That's $AUD33K above the US price on a closely specced GT and it's built in RHD from factory.

Add GST etc, this pricing thing has been done to death on S550 Mustang.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

Add GST etc, this pricing thing has been done to death on S550 Mustang.

It's drive away so GST included.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

It's drive away so GST included.

No GST or LST apply in the US.

Thank Albo and GovCo for the additional taxes here compared to the US .