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Al
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Purveyor of fine filth
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In Australia, one doesn't own land, they have possession of the title to said land.
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Purveyor of fine filth
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Absolute ownership of land by individuals would mean none of the conditions imposed on "ownership" of that land could be legally applied and enforced; councils couldn't levy rates or demand building/planning permits, governments couldn't do compulsory acquisition. |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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praek tih kl jo kr
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So if the Crown own the land, then I purchase land for cash then who owns it?, why then do I ned a mortgage to buy it if I don't own it?
I will sell you a Falcon, but you don't own it, Henry Ford owns it. I have a copy of My Title, already know you are not allowed to have the original, my Mother had her Original Title, as they used to allow you to have them. |
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DIY Tragic
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Well before the bandwagon became popular:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-...y-god/12380458 All this talk of “title” is daft; it’s an element of the sovcit ideology of divide and pester. It’s simpler just to pay the bills and find other ways to “un-support” the government. I had a customer who refused to let two premises because he either found fault with prospective applicants or worried about tax on the income. I suggested he was better taking the rent at market rates and devoting the profit to undermining the local council - whom he despised. |
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Purveyor of fine filth
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A distinction needs to be made between the nutjobs the media trots out and parades as spokesmen for the lunatics and the genuine issues with governance and property ownership in this and pretty much every country on earth. This is done on purpose to discourage any conversation about what constitutes ownership and to maintain the illusion in benefit of the Crown.
Have a look at the ramifications of Mabo, the result was a form of absolute ownership of land and not token ownership via estates in fee simple. There is a reason govco and by corollary the Crown fought tooth and nail against it. Quote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple The form of payment (outright or using credit) makes no difference, the bank can't lodge a claim on the land directly, the lodge it against the title. Cars are also sold in the same manner (when new anyway). Back in the day there were always two copies issued when a parcel of land was titled, one for the Titles Office and one for the "buyer". When one borrowed money to "buy" the land, the buyers copy was taken by the bank for the duration of the debt. Last edited by fatgas; 11-04-2024 at 12:15 PM. |
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Purveyor of fine filth
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To further expand on my point, Mark Bouris mentioned the nature of property ownership some years ago:
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