Mitsubishi 380 Nov sales

SUVshopper · 05-12-2005, 07:49 PM

Commodore 5276
Falcon 5064
Corolla 4002
Yaris 1733
380 1650

Glad I didn't buy a 380 !

Bossxr8 · 05-12-2005, 08:40 PM

Not looking good for them.

bathurst77 · 05-12-2005, 08:43 PM

good month for falcon, just over 200 behind commy. and the corolla peak was just a blip it seems.
people still are buying big cars after all.

Falcon Freak · 05-12-2005, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Not looking good for them.

As I said before on this forum. Their target is 2,500 sales per month. They are well below this. If sales don't improve and quickly, Mitsubishi Australia's manufacturing division is finished.

FF

**Falcon Coupe** · 05-12-2005, 08:55 PM

Dam , it's not looking good, when will they learn Aussies prefer large rear wheel drive sedans.

Bossxr8 · 05-12-2005, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bathurst77

good month for falcon, just over 200 behind commy. and the corolla peak was just a blip it seems.
people still are buying big cars after all.

For a new model those sales would be down on what they wanted for Falcon.

zetec · 05-12-2005, 09:10 PM

Actually no they hit target for Falcon.

chevypower · 05-12-2005, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SUVshopper

Commodore 5276
Falcon 5064
Corolla 4002
Yaris 1733
380 1650

Glad I didn't buy a 380 !

You are glad you didnt buy one cos not everybody else bought one? Thats a lame reason not to buy something (unless your basing that on a reason for faster depreciation), if you like something, your decission should not be influenced by what everyone else thinks.... It's like going to McDonalds to buy burgers cos they sell the most, even though the ones at the fish and chip shop taste better. I think the 380 looks pretty nice, never driven it though.

I will point out that I dont think popularity of new car sales (or lack thereof) has any direct link to resale value. If anything, cars which sold in smaller numbers have often kept their resale rating higher.

buickman · 05-12-2005, 10:25 PM

A yaris selling more than the 380?must be more people into lawn bowls than I thought.
Last saturday's age papers motoring section had the old TL magnas advertised in large colour spreads & a small B/W ad for the 380. What is Mitsubishi doing

XplosiveR6 · 06-12-2005, 12:11 AM

i am really surprised, they are quite a smart looking car, by far the best car mitsubishi Aust has made. I think they have to concertrate more to fleets to get their sales up

Aeron · 06-12-2005, 12:15 AM

I quite like the 380. I like it more than the Magna, but i've only seen one 380 on the road. But i guess people dont want an '05 plate car and will hang off 'til next year.

Steffo · 06-12-2005, 04:47 AM

I saw a Mitsubishi 380 on the road for the first time yesterday. They look like poo....

Not surprised they're selling poorly... there's nothing about the car that makes it better then the TL Magna it replaced. And the steering wheel in it is grotesque (I couldn't stand to look at it all the time).

IMO the TJ/TJII Magna is the best one Mitsubishi ever made.

AUIII XR8 MAN · 06-12-2005, 06:52 AM

A bit poor for Mitsubishi but will have to what & see how it goes after taking best Large car award for the Motoring body group. Good to see see the Falcon isn't getting it @ss flog by the Comm in the sale.

**Stav** · 06-12-2005, 06:58 AM

I worked on one yesterday and must say I was surprised at the lack of quality in the dash plastic.Also no mobile phone wiring to be found anywhere.

Steffo · 06-12-2005, 07:46 AM

I hope the 380 flops and Daimler-Chrysler sees the light and starts to produce 300C's here, and the "big three" go at it again in Australia. Would be nice. And no jobs would be lost...

Dave_au · 06-12-2005, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by useless

I worked on one yesterday and must say I was surprised at the lack of quality in the dash plastic.Also no mobile phone wiring to be found anywhere.

Mobile phone wiring on the higher models - vrx, lx etc.GT has bluetooth.

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Originally Posted by Steffo

I hope the 380 flops and Daimler-Chrysler sees the light and starts to produce 300C's here, and the "big three" go at it again in Australia. Would be nice. And no jobs would be lost...

Even you know it's too simplistic to think that.

Wow, quite a few of you seem to have it in for the 380, you need to give them a chance! It is only the first full month.

BlueRaven · 06-12-2005, 09:36 AM

I have to agree here with the RWD thing. The enemy is ford and holden and I seriously doubt a FWD car that is marketed as a 'big family car' can compare in sales when they are aiming for a generation of people raiseed on the notion that 'big family cars' are big rear wheel drive sedans.

I'd rather be pushed than pulled... maybe its just me.

4.9 EF Futura · 06-12-2005, 09:55 AM

Ford and Holden really are making life difficult for mitsubishi. Their marketing presence has been notably higher in the past month or two.

**Polyal** · 06-12-2005, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueRaven

I have to agree here with the RWD thing. The enemy is ford and holden and I seriously doubt a FWD car that is marketed as a 'big family car' can compare in sales when they are aiming for a generation of people raiseed on the notion that 'big family cars' are big rear wheel drive sedans.

I'd rather be pushed than pulled... maybe its just me.

true to a certain extent, but how mnay normal people know/care if there car is RWD or FWD? Purists do yes, but not the avergae IMO.

I always knew you take instead of give Raven!

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Where did these figures come from btw?

Steffo · 06-12-2005, 10:36 AM

Why does everyone keep saying Falcon and Commodore are the 380's competitors? The way I see it, it's a big, FWD sedan, targeted at people after a sensible, reliable, daily driver. Toyota Camry is it's opposition if you ask me. And as it stands... I'd buy a Camry V6 before I bought a 380.... on the other hand, I'd buy a TJ Magna over both of those, so...

IMO Mitsu has taken a huge leap backwards with the 380. A massaged American heap (Galant) is not a way to win buyers over. Toyota learnt that lesson well with the Avalon.

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Originally Posted by Dave_au

Even you know it's too simplistic to think that.

Yeah, I know... but it's ok to dream, isn't it?

Yaw · 06-12-2005, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

Why does everyone keep saying Falcon and Commodore are the 380's competitors? The way I see it, it's a big, FWD sedan, targeted at people after a sensible, reliable, daily driver. Toyota Camry is it's opposition if you ask me. And as it stands... I'd buy a Camry V6 before I bought a 380.... on the other hand, I'd buy a TJ Magna over both of those, so...

IMO Mitsu has taken a huge leap backwards with the 380. A massaged American heap (Galant) is not a way to win buyers over. Toyota learnt that lesson well with the Avalon.

Yeah, I know... but it's ok to dream, isn't it?

The Avalon was from the european market not the american market.
I was actually quite disappointed when they decided not to let the Avalons race in the early days of super V8's, seems to me they were too scared of a more highly developed japanese V8 beating the local cars. As for the 380 it is built to directly compete with the falcon and commodore, the avalon was not made to that market, the avalon was competing with the stateman and fairlane market.

**Polyal** · 06-12-2005, 11:00 AM

LOL..avalon against the statesman..I dont think so.

Also steffo the 380 IS a falcon and commy competitor. Same size, engines, etc ect, everything other than which end the wheels drive from, which most people dont give a hoot about.

Yaw · 06-12-2005, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

LOL..avalon against the statesman..I dont think so.

Also steffo the 380 IS a falcon and commy competitor. Same size, engines, etc ect, everything other than which end the wheels drive from, which most people dont give a hoot about.

Your right it is funny, the statesman and fairlane did not nearly stack up to the quality of the japense car.

**Polyal** · 06-12-2005, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Yaw

Your right it is funny, the statesman and fairlane did not nearly stack up to the quality of the japense car.

mate I dont care where the thing is built, if it was german it would still be crap.

The new avalon is looking promising, but the one we had was the worst looking toyota that has been in Australia.

People that seem to think that all japanese cars have superior quality might want to pull their head out.

Yaw · 06-12-2005, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

mate I dont care where the thing is built, if it was german it would still be crap.

The new avalon is looking promising, but the one we had was the worst looking toyota that has been in Australia.

People that seem to think that all japanese cars have superior quality might want to pull their head out.

Simple and plain fact Toyota are a very superior quality car compared to Ford holden and Mits. Maybe not it's me that needs to pull thier head in. I love Ford just as much as you and always have, I am just realastic, its only been in the very recent years Ford have come up with a car that really is of good quality. As for your opinon on the Avalon there are quite a few goverment limos, and prestige car hire places that have Avalons.

I really get sick of the "ford is the only manufacturer doing it right attitude"

**Polyal** · 06-12-2005, 11:28 AM

what are you talking about.

Im not going to live in the past and say that ford where crap back in the year xx.

Ford and Holden have their problems, JUST the same as toyota et al. Im sick of people crapping on the aussie stuff all the time.

As for Avalons, quite a few???? you mean 30?

I dont care how much quality is in an Avalon, if it looks crap, goes like crap, feels like crap then no one is going to buy it or give a stuff about its "quality".

Toyota "quality" comes from boring, simple products. Effective yes, but ill take my falcon (/shudders commy) that has "inferior" quality over a boring soap box anyday.

Yaw · 06-12-2005, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

what are you talking about.

Im not going to live in the past and say that ford where crap back in the year xx.

Ford and Holden have their problems, JUST the same as toyota et al. Im sick of people crapping on the aussie stuff all the time.

As for Avalons, quite a few???? you mean 30?

I dont care how much quality is in an Avalon, if it looks crap, goes like crap, feels like crap then no one is going to buy it or give a stuff about its "quality".

Toyota "quality" comes from boring, simple products. Effective yes, but ill take my falcon (/sudders commy) that has "inferior" quality over a boring soap box anyday.

Thats EXACTLY the attitude I am talking about.
If you had of taken 5 seconds more to look at the year to date stats on the
fairlane/stateman/avalon you would have seen:
Year To Date
Fairlane 2077
Stateman 4281
Avalon 5207.

**Polyal** · 06-12-2005, 11:50 AM

Since when is the avalon a competitor for the statesman and fairlane?

I have never seen a write up with these three cars, the avalon had always been against the falcon and commy (and its not like the 'lane and stateman are much different).

If people want to buy them then fine, but it doesn't make them good or have better quality than the aussie stuff like you seem to think.

Didn't toyota have a huge million dollar recall not long ago?

Yaw · 06-12-2005, 11:59 AM

Who says I don't like Aussie stuff?
I like the Falcons and Commodores. I just don't have a closed mind that Ford is the be all and end all.
Now most cars have recalls and as for huge millon recalls lets look at the Ford Explorer.
My only point to you is don't be so blind or ignorant to think Ford is the only one that can do anything right.

**Polyal** · 06-12-2005, 12:02 PM

If thats what you think then your waaaaayyy off.

But I sure as hell not going to sit here and defend the Avalon.