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Old 24-11-2012, 08:29 PM   #1
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Well usually when I see some weird stuff its the USA... but this is a beauty from China. (please try and withhold the commie comments)

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Won't sell up? Enjoy living in the middle of a motorway! Road is built around a house after elderly Chinese couple refuse to move

An elderly couple refuse to move as a road is built around their apartment
They insist the government's relocation compensation is not enough

By Alex Ward

PUBLISHED: 10:27 GMT, 22 November 2012 | UPDATED: 16:18 GMT, 22 November 2012

A lone apartment building stands in the middle of a newly built road after an elderly couple refused to relocate.


Luo Baogen and his wife insist on living in the half-demolished building in the city of Wenling, in Zhejiang province, China because they believe that the relocation compensation offered by the government is not enough.

Now the only building left standing, the five storey block is a strange sight as cars drive around it while the couple remain living inside.
An elderly couple refused to leave despite plans for the road a railway station to be built directly where the building stands

An elderly couple refused to leave despite plans for the road a railway station to be built directly where the building stands

To ensure the couple’s safety, adjacent rooms in the building have been left intact but all their neighbours have moved out, according to local media.

The road paved through the Xiazhangyang village leads to the Wenling railway station and is yet to be officially opened.

Mr Baogen and his wife believe that the compensation on offer would not be enough to cover their rebuilding costs.

In the People's Republic of China, during most of the Communist era, private ownership of property was abolished, making it easy for residents to be moved on - but now the laws have been tightened up and it is illegal to demolish property by force without an agreement.
The couple refused to movebecause they believed the relocation compensation offered by the government was not enough



Not enough to move: The couple refused to move because they believed the relocation compensation offered by the government was not enough
Luo Baogen looks out on the new road to the city's railway station which is yet to be officially opened

Room with a view: Luo Baogen looks out on the new road which is yet to be officially opened from the apartment building where all his neighbours moved out

Property owners in China that refuse to move to make way for development are known as 'Nail Householders' referring to a stubborn nail that is not easy to remove from a piece of old wood and cannot be pulled out with a hammer.

Earlier this year, Hong Chunqin, 75, and her husband Kung, who live in the two dilapidated buildings with their two sons, had initially agreed to sell the property in Taizhou, in Zhejiang province and accepted £8,000 in compensation.

But then she changed her mind and refunded the money once work on the road had started.

Proof: Mr Baogen stands in front of his home holding the certificate that states he owns the land beneath it, meaning that he and his wife can't be forced to move away

Folorn: Mr Baogen looks wistfully across his new scenery, the tarmac from the new road waving haphazardly along the side of the building and demarcating the homeowner's land


Calm before the storm: The balcony from Mr Baogen's home looks peaceful now, but this is all likely to change shortly when the motorway surrounding the property is opened to traffic
Thinking laterally: When Mr Baogen refused to vacate his property, which was right in the middle of a planned route for a new motorway, the road builders refused to let this get in the way

Thinking laterally: When Mr Baogen refused to vacate his property, which was right in the middle of a planned route for a new motorway, the road builders refused to let this get in the way

The long road home: The house that appears to be plonked in the middle of a motorway is likely to prove an unusual landmark for passing motorists


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I'm surprised he wasn't deported to North korea and executed for his insolence against the fatherland.

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On another note, bonus points for the Ford in the photos. This is a Ford Forum after all...
well I try to have some sort of Ford content...
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Would have been interesting to see what would have happened to him if this road was being built 10 years ago.
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You don't have to go to China. There was a similar situation in Rockhampton 30 years ago when a new shopping center was being built and on home owner refused to sell.

Her ended up living in the middle of a car park.

I just went looking for it but it appears the whole centre has been rebuilt and the house is gone.
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Begin paving the road before securing all the land in the way. Obviously the smartest thing to do.
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I don't get why they didn't just curve around the property with both lanes, they have the space. Prob just the government saving face.....

Could be the smartest move they made, think of the advertising money that place can now generate!
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LOL, "Hello sir, I'll have the number 27, and number 16 with some fried rice. House is in the middle of the highway, the delivery boy can't miss it"
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You don't have to go to China. There was a similar situation in Rockhampton 30 years ago when a new shopping center was being built and on home owner refused to sell.

Her ended up living in the middle of a car park.

I just went looking for it but it appears the whole centre has been rebuilt and the house is gone.
Same sorta thing was about to happen in Townsville.
Many years ago Stockland wanted to expand is shopping center (instead of goin up, its design was going OUT!..)
So they bought some 20 or so blocks of land, paid millions to kick people out, as well as other shops, all except one family on a corner.

This guy and his family have lived there for 30 odd yrs and was always a bit weird (I can recall him having a 7 foot mesh fence when i was a kid). He refused to sell up and was offered nearly $1.4million and refused to go!

His house now has a 6ft concrete wall all the way around it... and no neighbours!... all the homes/ shops were left abandonned as Stocklands didnt go ahead with its expansion (almost sent it broke here).
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Huh, if you want to talk "communist", then how about the way the government here just walks in and resumes your property when they decide they need it for something?
I have always said, "your home isn't your castle". You're just looking after your land/house until the government decides they need it for something like a highway, national park, or whatever else they want to build or do. Look at the people, for instance, down the Gold Coast who had lived in their houses for fifty years who simply had to move out and go for a highway to be built.
Oh, you'll dig your heels in and say you want a million dollars? No you won't...they only have to offer you fair market value, and then it's out the door (with help if necessary...) and see ya later. You say you'll fight for your property in court? Guess whose side the law is on...here's a tip...it isn't you.

I think the big difference in that case in Townsville is that it is a private company trying to get you out...then you have to go through court and the business has to put a case that removing you is somehow in the public good. If it's a government, whatever they do is in the public good so you are behind the eight ball from the start. If that Townsville case had been a government complex, the guy with the big fence be long gone...

I am honestly surprised that they wouldn't move that house in China...but then I've also seen rural people there dig their heels in and refuse to be moved from their small farms to make room for factories, and they win, getting things built around them.

Sad to think that big bad old communist China may actually have a few more freedoms for its citizens than we do...
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True, but how long would the owner want to live there?
Imagine once the road is open the utter chaos of cars and trucks around his home just inches away... not to mention the power pole in the road.

He may have won the battle, but still lost the war sadly.

Governments no matter where or who make incredibly stupid decisions when it comes to planning (or lack thereof).... if they want you gone, they will get around it.... or build around it!

Look at how farmers have no right of refusal here in regards to mining or CSG companies entering their property.
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Huh, if you want to talk "communist", then how about the way the government here just walks in and resumes your property when they decide they need it for something?
I have always said, "your home isn't your castle". You're just looking after your land/house until the government decides they need it for something like a highway, national park, or whatever else they want to build or do. Look at the people, for instance, down the Gold Coast who had lived in their houses for fifty years who simply had to move out and go for a highway to be built.
Oh, you'll dig your heels in and say you want a million dollars? No you won't...they only have to offer you fair market value, and then it's out the door (with help if necessary...) and see ya later. You say you'll fight for your property in court? Guess whose side the law is on...here's a tip...it isn't you.

I think the big difference in that case in Townsville is that it is a private company trying to get you out...then you have to go through court and the business has to put a case that removing you is somehow in the public good. If it's a government, whatever they do is in the public good so you are behind the eight ball from the start. If that Townsville case had been a government complex, the guy with the big fence be long gone...

I am honestly surprised that they wouldn't move that house in China...but then I've also seen rural people there dig their heels in and refuse to be moved from their small farms to make room for factories, and they win, getting things built around them.

Sad to think that big bad old communist China may actually have a few more freedoms for its citizens than we do...
all true mate, and to ad to the "your castle is`nt your castle in oz", i love the way you can buy your land overgrown with bush, then be knocked back from clearing said land because it does`nt fit in with council guidelines,
in the article above at the least the guy stood his ground and kept his house, even if he loses out in the end, they have`nt had police force him out.
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Huh, if you want to talk "communist", then how about the way the government here just walks in and resumes your property when they decide they need it for something?
I have always said, "your home isn't your castle". You're just looking after your land/house until the government decides they need it for something like a highway, national park, or whatever else they want to build or do. Look at the people, for instance, down the Gold Coast who had lived in their houses for fifty years who simply had to move out and go for a highway to be built.
Oh, you'll dig your heels in and say you want a million dollars? No you won't...they only have to offer you fair market value, and then it's out the door (with help if necessary...) and see ya later. You say you'll fight for your property in court? Guess whose side the law is on...here's a tip...it isn't you.

I think the big difference in that case in Townsville is that it is a private company trying to get you out...then you have to go through court and the business has to put a case that removing you is somehow in the public good. If it's a government, whatever they do is in the public good so you are behind the eight ball from the start. If that Townsville case had been a government complex, the guy with the big fence be long gone...

I am honestly surprised that they wouldn't move that house in China...but then I've also seen rural people there dig their heels in and refuse to be moved from their small farms to make room for factories, and they win, getting things built around them.

Sad to think that big bad old communist China may actually have a few more freedoms for its citizens than we do...
Oh so true. And if you have a farm and there happens to be some gas under it. Say bye bye to your prime grazing land!!
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a local car yard was expanding but one home owner wouldn't sell so they built on all 3 sides of him so he is surrounded by a car yard
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ahahahahahahahahaha love it!!!

Angry elderley couple and chinese government.... What happens when you have an unstoppable force collide with an immovable object, you get an incredibly dangerous spot for a house and also depending on the speed limit, I can see a lot of cars hitting that wall head on and most likely eventually slowly destroying the building anyway
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looking at that piccy now , i`m thinking they could throw up a few roundabout signs and a bit of curbing... hey presto every body wins .
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He could work for local radio station doing traffic reports..
He better not leave the house !! A few tanks coming down the road can do havoc on anything in the way !!!Esp if they drove like S. Morris..
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LOL, "Hello sir, I'll have the number 27, and number 16 with some fried rice. House is in the middle of the highway, the delivery boy can't miss it"

haha

I read the start of this post as they will turn their home into a drive-thru chinese takeaway
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I read the start of this post as they will turn their home into a drive-thru chinese takeaway
or he could put in boom gates and charge a toll !!!! lol
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There was also one in the UK that sits between the M62 carriageways as well by memory. Similar situation, but not to the extent of the chinese nail householder above.
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i just watched a show on ABC about Cambodia and the way they treat their residents when development wants the land.
30 tonne excavators and a riot squad are pretty persuasive.
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ABC news24 this morning are reporting the owner has now accepted a uprated offer of the equivelent of $41,000usd & 2 plots of land. Everyones happy now lol!

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I don't get why they didn't just curve around the property with both lanes, they have the space. Prob just the government saving face.....

Could be the smartest move they made, think of the advertising money that place can now generate!
I bet they are planning on when he gets sick of the noise and sells, then the just repave that section.
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ABC news24 this morning are reporting the owner has now accepted a uprated offer of the equivelent of $41,000usd & 2 plots of land. Everyones happy now lol!

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