Anti Smoking Campaigns

Black XR6 · 13-05-2006, 09:34 PM

With the latest anti smoking adds doing the rounds showing gang green (no doubt spelling issue there), its really getting worse and worse. They obviously do not work or else people wouldnt be smoking still.

If the gov wanted to stop people smoking there are ways of doing so!

I am a non smoker although im known to smoke passively from time to time. I think the adds are getting to a point where I dont feel those of us who do not smoke should be made to see this sort of advert.

Do you think this sort of add campaign works or that it should continue? Do the non smokers out there feel the adds are getting too graphic and dont feel they need to see that sort of thing since they dont have the habit in the first place? Or is it a case of if it saves one life its worth it?

XAGSV8 · 13-05-2006, 09:37 PM

They should have worked it out by now it does not work and they need a new approach. Problem is people these days are too desensitised to this type of thing as it is everywhere.

Falcon_Phill · 13-05-2006, 09:45 PM

If the government really wanted to stop it, which face it, they dont, they would ban it outright.

svo347 · 13-05-2006, 10:11 PM

Nope doesnt do too much.
Remember the Aids vids they had going around with the Reaper....
Play that nowdays and it wouldnt lift an eyelid.

Laminge · 13-05-2006, 10:18 PM

Im a smoker, and to tell you the truth it has no effect

If it stops however a 16 year old taking it up because they think its cool, then that has to be a good thing

Black XR6 · 13-05-2006, 10:21 PM

hmm, having said that laminge. If you recognise it as such a bad thing that 16 year olds need to be educated to stop. why dont you stop?

Now bear in mind ive never smoked. Ever. So have no idea on how hard it is to stop etc etc. Just curious after the comment.

BPXR6T · 13-05-2006, 10:22 PM

I had the same reaction with the latest round. I'm a non smoker and its all getting a bit much. They said on TV the next round are going to be ten times worse and are in production now.

No doubt they are counting on this reaction from non smokers and hoping to use the negativity to there own advantage to excert peer pressure on smokers.

The other night my neice got quiet upset, she turned to me and asked what's wrong with that persons foot. To justify horrifying my neice I'm sure anti smoking campaigners would say its simply getting the message through while they're young.

I think at the very least there should be explicit and clear warnings before these commercials. They should be labelled so adults can decide what the children in there care watch. I certainly don't want to be giving my neice nightmares by exposing her to that.

Personally I'm getting fed up with it. Time for an anti quit campaign I think...

Laminge · 13-05-2006, 10:23 PM

Im hooked, no doubt about it, do I want to stop - nope.

I started when I was 14, I am now 38.

BPXR6T · 13-05-2006, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Laminge

Im hooked, no doubt about it, do I want to stop - nope.
I started when I was 14, I am now 38.

Mate, if you seen how my sisters father in law went out last year you'd change your mind quick. Cancer ate him to the bone. My grandmothers husband is now going through the same thing. Can't even wipe his own ar$e.

Not trying to sound self rightous here, but I've never touched a cigarette in my life and never will after seeing the consequences...

FASTXR · 13-05-2006, 10:30 PM

The problem is though Minge that in the last 20 years or so they have banned TV advertising, radio advertising, cinema advertising and virtually all print advertising of tobacco products. Many places will not allow tobacco companies to sponsor sports events. Information about the harmful effects of smoking has never been greater and the government pumps millions of dollars each year into anti-smoking campaigns. And guess what? There's probably more 16 year-olds smoking now than there was 20 years ago. How can you explain that? (that's a rhetorical question, not aimed at you Minge!),

The only way that smoking will ever be reduced/eradicated is if the government banned it, and with the money it earns that'll never happen.

Laminge · 13-05-2006, 10:33 PM

My Mother died of cancer, I sat with her till she drew her last breath, after 3 years of pure hell

My Mothers side of the family has lost 3 brothers and a sister to cancer, plus mums parents

My Father had part of his stomach removed due to cancer, he too lost a brother and mother to cancer

The chances of myself having some form of cancer is 80% as indicated by doctors based on family history alone.

I understand the consequences of my actions, and accept the fact that I will be screwed at some stage.

Laminge · 13-05-2006, 10:35 PM

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The only way that smoking will ever be reduced/eradicated is if the government banned it, and with the money it earns that'll never happen.

Agree 100%

svo347 · 13-05-2006, 10:37 PM

I started when i was 14, Im now 33 and havent had a smoke in 3 mths or so.
I dont really miss it but i feel it more at work and when drinking with friends.

BPXR6T · 13-05-2006, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Laminge

My Mother died of cancer, I sat with her till she drew her last breath, after 3 years of pure hell

My Mothers side of the family has lost 3 brothers and a sister to cancer, plus mums parents

My Father had part of his stomach removed due to cancer, he too lost a brother and mother to cancer

The chances of myself having some form of cancer is 80% as indicated by doctors based on family history alone.

I understand the consequences of my actions, and accept the fact that I will be screwed at some stage.

That's rough. I'd be a paranoid freak by now...

Black XR6 · 13-05-2006, 10:41 PM

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Mate, if you seen how my sisters father in law went out last year you'd change your mind quick. Cancer ate him to the bone. My grandmothers husband is now going through the same thing. Can't even wipe his own ar$e.

but how is that different to seeing it graphically on tv? Would seeing actual victims of smoking at the end of their lives stop people?

And I dont think peer pressure will do anything. Im not going to tell anybody to stop, its totally upto them in the long run. I only object to smokers lack of consideration for others like smoking where they are not supposed to or just throwing cigarette butts out the window or on the ground like they have a right to litter australia.

Otherwise im fine if somebody chooses to smoke. No differnet to alot of other stuff.

rodderz · 13-05-2006, 10:46 PM

I'm sort of a "lucky" smoker if you could call it that. I will have a smoke every day only if in routine such as after smoko at work or eating, yet at home I forget all about the smokes and if at home all day I wont have any. Then sometimes I will finish a pack and be too lazy over the next few days to stop and buy more

But, I do realise the dangers and it's on a list of getting fitter and giving up.

But, now that this thread has come up, and I'm at home, I'm going for a smoke lol

Black XR6 · 13-05-2006, 10:48 PM

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But, now that this thread has come up, and I'm at home, I'm going for a smoke lol

Well, I guess thats another point. Does anybody see these adds and actually feel like a smoke because the idea has been put in your head by the commercial?

BPXR6T · 13-05-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Black XR6

but how is that different to seeing it graphically on tv? Would seeing actual victims of smoking at the end of their lives stop people?

No and No. My brother in law doesn't give a rats about the commercials and watching his father die sadly didn't make much difference either.

Danny · 13-05-2006, 10:59 PM

I am a smoker who hasn't bought a pack in about a month and a half. Like Rodderz, I dont feel a need to smoke unless i'm with other people who are smoking (and they offer me one), not on my own and at home. So that means at home its a big no. Uni and work is a big no as well. This has only been like this since about a month or two ago. I am not interested in smoking anymore (but I still will if im out drinking and having a good time albeait MUCH more lightly than i used to!). This new campaign is only helping me to realise how yuck of a habit it is. and new pics on the packets disgust me.

On trhe other hand, I'm so totally sick of the hypocrytical government trying to give us these warnings. They Up the tax on Ciggies in the name of "Health" how convenient for them hey? These ads are just a bullsh!!t contradiction because seasoned smokers (ala Laminge) will NOT give up and accept the consequences (and good on them!), while continuing to buy ciggies that the government will uptax to "sway" them into quitting, when they know that they won't.

If people want to smoke, then good on them!! LET THEM DO IT WITHOUT THE CRAP PROPOGANDA!! Enough is enough I say...

Black XR6 · 13-05-2006, 11:07 PM

If the gov shelved the adds, they would probably want to up the medicare levi to cover the percieved extra cost impact of all the smokers continuing and all the new smokers that would take it up.

rodderz · 13-05-2006, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Black XR6

Well, I guess thats another point. Does anybody see these adds and actually feel like a smoke because the idea has been put in your head by the commercial?

Not for me, most of it it is through a routine or habit when yourself or others usually light up

It is a nasty habit and seeing how other people are suffering as well as the price of them these days is a big deterrant. There is also the bad moods it gets you in when you lose or someone steals your lighter!

nobbystang · 14-05-2006, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Black XR6

but how is that different to seeing it graphically on tv? Would seeing actual victims of smoking at the end of their lives stop people?

And I dont think peer pressure will do anything. Im not going to tell anybody to stop, its totally upto them in the long run. I only object to smokers lack of consideration for others like smoking where they are not supposed to or just throwing cigarette butts out the window or on the ground like they have a right to litter australia.

Otherwise im fine if somebody chooses to smoke. No differnet to alot of other stuff.

Gotta agree, my old man smoked for 30+ years, has quit last 4 i think now. However, working in the medical sector he knew all this bad stuff so we had to wait until he was ready to stop by himself, for himself. He was always considerate when out in public, unlike alot of others who like to mill around outside doorways together so you can't help but get a mouthful walking outside. I don't have a problem with people smoking either, i just wish they would do it somewhere secluded, nothing worse than seeing a mum with a carful of kids lighting up, or worse yet, driving while smoking.

parawolf · 14-05-2006, 01:25 PM

Personally I cannot wait until smoking is banned in bars, pups and clubs. I hate going out and then coming home and my clothes, hair and skin stink of second hand smoke. Nothing against smokers, most are killing themselves by choice - but it just reduces my enjoyment for a night out as a smoker expects their clothes to stink, but I don't.

fiery · 14-05-2006, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by parawolf

Personally I cannot wait until smoking is banned in bars, pups and clubs. I hate going out and then coming home and my clothes, hair and skin stink of second hand smoke. Nothing against smokers, most are killing themselves by choice - but it just reduces my enjoyment for a night out as a smoker expects their clothes to stink, but I don't.

I have only recently given up smoking and while I give others a hard time (pay out a bit) about them smoking, it really doesn't bother me at all.
I went to a pub the other night knowing full well people will be smoking.

In my view, you don't like it keep away from it. I personally think it is stupid to ban it from pubs etc.. eating areas I agree with but for goodness sake all this banning from here and there is ridiculous. If people want to smoke that is their choice until our government decide to try banning it full stop and making it illegal.. (like that will work lol).

And those ads are stupid and don't work.. what a waste of money...

parawolf · 14-05-2006, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fiery

In my view, you don't like it keep away from it. I personally think it is stupid to ban it from pubs etc.. eating areas I agree with but for goodness sake all this banning from here and there is ridiculous. If people want to smoke that is their choice until our government decide to try banning it full stop and making it illegal.. (like that will work lol).

I do stay away from it. However those few times a year I go it always reminds me why I stay away.

fiery · 14-05-2006, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by parawolf

I do stay away from it. However those few times a year I go it always reminds me why I stay away.

I honestly did not notice the smoke in the pub at all, but then maybe that was the alcohol content numbing all senses

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The one thing I did find hilarious was the tile section was closest to the bar (fair enough I guess, spilt drinks and all must only happen in that area), but where the smokers had to go was carpet.... what is with that..!!

Woz · 14-05-2006, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by parawolf

Personally I cannot wait until smoking is banned in bars, pups and clubs. I hate going out and then coming home and my clothes, hair and skin stink of second hand smoke. Nothing against smokers, most are killing themselves by choice - but it just reduces my enjoyment for a night out as a smoker expects their clothes to stink, but I don't.

I've never been a smoker. Tried it once when I was in grade six and nearly coughed up my colon. Not pleasant in the slightest.

I hate breathing in someone else's smoke. I hate smelling of smoke. As much as, if not more than, most non-smokers.

However, if I don't like it, I walk away from it. I don't care if other people want to smoke. That's their choice.

My old man used to own a pub in the country. Most of the population of said country town are smokers. I was 14 when the old man took over the pub, and he had it until I was 17. When I was 14, sitting in the bar, I'd make a comment about smokers. "Go sit over there" or "If you're gonna smoke that, smoke it. But for Christ's sake, inhale it so I don't have to." Something along those lines. After a while, you work out that if you actually get up and walk a couple of meters away, it's not so bad. Fans, vents, open doors or windows, there's normally something there to combat the smoke in the room.

As I said, I hate going out and coming home stinking of smoke. But banning smoking in pubs/clubs/bars/etc. is going to do more harm than good. What do you think is going to happen? Smokers aren't going to stop smoking while they're out and about, they're going to stop going out. They'll pick up a few drinks and sit at home or at a mates place. Then their mates are going to head round, and all of a sudden there'll be eight non-smokers sitting at a bar that's going out of business, wondering where all the action is.

Non-smoking in pubs will destroy the pub-scene. As someone who's grown up in and - for a small chunk of my life - lived in country pubs, this is something that I hope never takes effect. Even as a non-smoker.

I wouldn't stop going out, as none of my mates smoke anyway, but I know plenty of people who would stop and that's what will affect pubs the most.

M14A-Mclaren · 14-05-2006, 03:24 PM

Gang Green? they're showing you pictures of Hippies and Carnies? that's awful.

kyro_02 · 14-05-2006, 03:46 PM

I agree, only way to stop people smoking is to ban it all together, but there is too much money involved from the sales... and even if it was stopped you will probably start seeing people in straight jackets :P

i'm not a smoker and never will be but Nothing worse then a smoker-smoking next to me, I can't stand it....

isn't the risk more for non smokers, then smokers to get cancer? as non smoker is passive smoking and your body doesn't survive on smoke ...like smokers...?

aimzes · 14-05-2006, 03:48 PM

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In my view, you don't like it keep away from it.

there needs to be a bit of give and take. i think if a pub wants to allow people to smoke within its premises it should have adequate ventilation. you cant just say if you dont like smoking stay away from your local pub or any public place for that matter. why shouldnt smokers stay away? well thats unfair on them. ive been to pubs with vents that continually suck air from the rooms and they are great, people can smoke and i dont inhale it. unfortunatly these pubs arnt exactly close to me.

and considering how much money the pubs in my area make each night they can afford it.