Ford GT returns as hybrid!

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Ford GT returns as hybrid!
Ford's new supercar features V8 hybrid drivetrain and will take on McLaren and Ferrari - but cost less than both.

It’s take three for the Ford GT! Auto Express has learned that the blue oval is readying an all-new mid-engined supercar – and it’s set to feature hybrid power.


The model follows on from the original Sixties GT40, as well as the GT, built between 2005 and 2006. It will take aim at Ferrari, Lamborghini and McLaren by using the most advanced technology available to deliver massive straight-line performance. And our exclusive images predict how the Detroit missile is shaping up.


In a bid to distance the new model from the 2005 GT, of which only 100 examples reached Europe, there will be a new design direction. While the GT used plenty of styling cues from the original GT40 racer of the Sixties, the latest interpretation is likely to forego the retro body panels and get a sharper, more modern look.

Evoking memories of the 1995 Ford GT90 concept, which had a 720bhp quad-turbocharged V12, the new GT will put an updated spin on the GT40’s design, with a huge front air intake, angular headlights and vents in the bonnet and flanks.


The overall proportions and mid-engined configuration will remain intact, though – and that will help to provide balanced handling. The biggest news comes under the skin, though. A supercharged V8 provides the power, but extra boost is available at the touch of a button from an electric motor driving the front wheels.


This is similar to the set-up on the Porsche 918 Spyder-style. Add stop-start and the ability to run solely on electricity for brief periods of time, and the new GT would showcase Ford’s green credentials. But as total power will be around 600bhp, the newcomer will still keep pace with other mid-engined supercars such as the McLaren MP4-12C and Ferrari 458 Italia, as well as the successors to the Lamborghini Gallardo and Audi R8.


Keeping the weight to a minimum is an all-aluminium chassis and composite body panels. Expect the GT to tip the scales at around 1,400kg, which is nearly 200kg lighter than the car it replaces. That means a power to weight ratio in the region of 430bhp per tonne, while a three-second 0-62mph time and a top speed in excess of 200mph are targets. And while it won’t be cheap, the car is sure to undercut its rivals.


There’s no word yet on when we’ll catch our first glimpse of the newcomer, and a spokesman for Ford UK remained tight-lipped. But with the economy in gradual recovery and a raft of brand new supercars on the way – the Ferrari FF, Pagani Huayra and Lamborghini Aventador all arrive at March’s Geneva Motor Show – there couldn’t be a better time for Ford to take the plunge


Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/au...#ixzz1D43K3Aoj

[Dave R]

What's the bet it looks nothing like that at all.

[Stefan]

Well that picture still has styling cues from the 60's model.

[Jason[98.EL]]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

What's the bet it looks nothing like that at all.

yup thinking the same thing.

see it below

[HLC]

ugly.

The GT40 was beautiful and now they are going to ruin it.

[Polyal]

Kind of a mash between the old gt90 and the gt40, pretty sure that rear end was on a capri concept.

I don't care how fast it is, hybrids are for passenger cars.

[SteveJH]

Wonder what engine they'll use.

How much longer will the Aluminium 5.4L engine be able to meet emissions?

And if it can't be improved much further, does anyone know if the version of the Coyote in the Shelby GT350 has been put through Ford Durability testing or is Miami the only completely tested SC 5.0 engine available?

[ST]

Has anyone else noticed how popular the whale shark front is getting?

Not liking it to be honest and I've always been a massive fan of the Ford GT. Is this going to be an alternative hybrid version or is it going to be the actual successor?

[CobraJet351]

Rear end is off the Shelby GR1 concept

[dannyhilton]

Originally Posted by HLC

ugly.

The GT40 was beautiful and now they are going to ruin it.

I dunno, I definitely wouldn't turn it down if someone decided to give me one hehe

[flappist]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Kind of a mash between the old gt90 and the gt40, pretty sure that rear end was on a capri concept.

I don't care how fast it is, hybrids are for passenger cars.

You mean like V8s are for trucks, LPG is for barbecues, diesel is for tractors and forced induction is for aviation?

[388cube_edxr8]

No he means like vacuum cleaners run on electricity, supercars run on highly explosive liquid. You wouldn't buy a V6 vacuum cleaner, why would you want an electric motor on your supercar?

I haven't decided whether I agree, I'm waiting to see what sort of batteries it uses. But I'm pretty sure that's what hes getting at.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by 388cube_edxr8

No he means like vacuum cleaners run on electricity, supercars run on highly explosive liquid. You wouldn't buy a V6 vacuum cleaner, why would you want an electric motor on your supercar?

I haven't decided whether I agree, I'm waiting to see what sort of batteries it uses. But I'm pretty sure that's what hes getting at.

Why would you want an electric motor in your supercar?

Instant maximum torque from 0-infinity RPM.
Instant response to throttle change.
Instant and absolutely variable engine back pressure on drive train.
Power delivery can be changed hundreds of times a second to ensure absolutely maximum traction.
Just to mention a few.

Comparing an electric motor hybrid supercar to a conventional supercar is like comparing a coyote to a stroked windsor.......

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by flappist

You mean like V8s are for trucks, LPG is for barbecues, diesel is for tractors and forced induction is for aviation?

Bah enough of the analogies...sorry but IMO, and thats all it is, peak performance marques should be kept the way they are, everything else can run on hippies tears for all I care.

I sat through a week of "green car" conferences late last year, and it was the most bleak outlook at the automotive industry I have witnessed. Electronic gurus will love it and the hippies will get their way...its not what I define as motoring but what can you do.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Bah enough of the analogies...sorry but IMO, and thats all it is, peak performance marques should be kept the way they are, everything else can run on hippies tears for all I care.

I sat through a week of "green car" conferences late last year, and it was the most bleak outlook at the automotive industry I have witnessed. Electronic gurus will love it and the hippies will get their way...its not what I define as motoring but what can you do.

It is dangerous to go anywhere it all you ever do is look backwards, you will tend to run into things.

With supercars PERFORMANCE is the ONLY criteria, not heritage, emotion, stripes or badges. Fastest wins.

How would we be if we were STILL fitting clevos with a carburetor, drum brakes, leaf spring rear ends et al. to the 2011 GT?

Well I am sure some people would just love it but I am fairly sure even THEY would not buy one especially after they saw it get thrashed by a bog standard FG 6 cyl auto.......

[Nikked]

those renders look nice, sorta has cues from the GR-1 concept, while retaining the sleak low GT40 look.

[chevypower]

Love it!

[Mr Hardware]

Originally Posted by flappist

How would we be if we were STILL fitting clevos with a carburetor, drum brakes, leaf spring rear ends et al. to the 2011 GT?

We'd probably have less population problems

[ivorya]

Could we see a version of the Miami Engine be slotted in this car????

[mick10010]

Hybrids

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by flappist

It is dangerous to go anywhere it all you ever do is look backwards, you will tend to run into things.

With supercars PERFORMANCE is the ONLY criteria, not heritage, emotion, stripes or badges. Fastest wins.

How would we be if we were STILL fitting clevos with a carburetor, drum brakes, leaf spring rear ends et al. to the 2011 GT?

Well I am sure some people would just love it but I am fairly sure even THEY would not buy one especially after they saw it get thrashed by a bog standard FG 6 cyl auto.......

Sometimes when we think we are going forwards, in reality we are only going sideways. Its perhaps another thread but when you look at the overall life cycle of a current hybrid, its recyclability, battery life (and its own life cycle) then they are not all what they seem to be, but aslong as the L/100 is down and the CO2 levels are low its ok I guess....

I dont dispute the potential of these setups, just the value if all we are doing is running in circles.

[04redxr8]

Originally Posted by flappist

Why would you want an electric motor in your supercar?

Instant maximum torque from 0-infinity RPM.
Instant response to throttle change.
Instant and absolutely variable engine back pressure on drive train.
Power delivery can be changed hundreds of times a second to ensure absolutely maximum traction.
Just to mention a few.

Comparing an electric motor hybrid supercar to a conventional supercar is like comparing a coyote to a stroked windsor.......

You almost make it sound like a good thing. I suck at remembering to charge my phone, never mind a damn car.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Sometimes when we think we are going forwards, in reality we are only going sideways. Its perhaps another thread but when you look at the overall life cycle of a current hybrid, its recyclability, battery life (and its own life cycle) then they are not all what they seem to be, but aslong as the L/100 is down and the CO2 levels are low its ok I guess....

I dont dispute the potential of these setups, just the value if all we are doing is running in circles.

Do you remember just how bad the first turbo charged cars were?
Superchargers that ate belts like a fat kid at a cream bun shop?
Of the first disc braked falcons that used to start fires after a hot lap or two?
How about the first automatic transmissions?
The air con systems that used half of your available power?
Early electronic fuel injection was a mine field.
Power brakes, now there was a good way to lock up your front wheels and lose control in the wet.
The nutty electronic door locks that used to dance in time to your music?
Syncro-mesh that only worked on every second Thursday?
When 30l/100km was really good highway fuel economy but you did use a bit more around town.

I have been around long enough to remember when only a "hairdresser" would have girly components like syncro, floor shift, aircon, power steering, disc brakes, fuel injection etc.

You know, all those things you get in a FPV..........

Technology advances, ignoring it does not slow it down, just slows you down......

[prydey]

hybrids don't have to have batteries, or a system that needs plugging in overnight or something. to me it sounds similar to the KERS system in F1 and porsche have also tried it.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by prydey

hybrids don't have to have batteries, or a system that needs plugging in overnight or something. to me it sounds similar to the KERS system in F1 and porsche have also tried it.

There have been hundreds of hybrids running all over Australia for at least 40 years doing hundreds of millions of kilometres carrying billions of tonnes of freight.

Look up how a diesel-electric locomotive works........

[GTP534]

Originally Posted by flappist

Do you remember just how bad the first turbo charged cars were?
Superchargers that ate belts like a fat kid at a cream bun shop?
Of the first disc braked falcons that used to start fires after a hot lap or two?
How about the first automatic transmissions?
The air con systems that used half of your available power?
Early electronic fuel injection was a mine field.
Power brakes, now there was a good way to lock up your front wheels and lose control in the wet.
The nutty electronic door locks that used to dance in time to your music?
Syncro-mesh that only worked on every second Thursday?
When 30l/100km was really good highway fuel economy but you did use a bit more around town.

I have been around long enough to remember when only a "hairdresser" would have girly components like syncro, floor shift, aircon, power steering, disc brakes, fuel injection etc.

You know, all those things you get in a FPV..........

Technology advances, ignoring it does not slow it down, just slows you down......

Yes, I'm old enough to remember! Love this post!

[388cube_edxr8]

Sometimes technology gets it right, sometimes some fruitcakes desperate for media attention make something different for the sake of being different.

Electric powered or partly powered cars have made no significant improvement since they were reinvented late in the 20th century.

Change for the sake of change is not progress. I vote we let the do gooders and the one-track-minds continue pursuing electric power, while the rest of the world moves on with other ideas. Competition creates a better product. (that said, it doesn't seem to have helped Mazda and it's RX rotaries).

Only time will tell if electric is the way of the future or something future generations will laugh at.

[tezxr8man]

Originally Posted by CobraJet351

Rear end is off the Shelby GR1 concept

That's what I was thinking, the front looks like it's from the gr1 as well

[flappist]

Originally Posted by 388cube_edxr8

Sometimes technology gets it right, sometimes some fruitcakes desperate for media attention make something different for the sake of being different.

Electric powered or partly powered cars have made no significant improvement since they were reinvented late in the 20th century.

Change for the sake of change is not progress. I vote we let the do gooders and the one-track-minds continue pursuing electric power, while the rest of the world moves on with other ideas. Competition creates a better product. (that said, it doesn't seem to have helped Mazda and it's RX rotaries).

Only time will tell if electric is the way of the future or something future generations will laugh at.

As opposed to the internal combustion engine which stayed basically the same for almost a century..........

[Falc'man]

Clearly they've used cues from only some of the previous concepts... below is one concept they haven't integrated into their mock up.