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Old 14-11-2008, 02:06 PM   #1
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http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574...-29277,00.html

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Old 14-11-2008, 02:31 PM   #2
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Not really surprising, when you think about the fact that all of the cars nominated are better than the Holden offering in their respective classes. That said, usually it doesn't make a difference, to the motoring public because "Holdens Go Better".
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Statesman, probably got dudded, but otherwise there are no Holdens that are best of class.
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Don'f forget that to be a chance for "best cars" your vehicle has to have been relised in the past 12mths. Don't know if Holden have done that.
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Don'f forget that to be a chance for "best cars" your vehicle has to have been relised in the past 12mths. Don't know if Holden have done that.
Dont think so, most of the cars on that list are pretty old

Getz, Civic, Grandis, Golf R32, IS250 just to name a few. Only Wheel COTY has that last 12 months clause.
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Old 14-11-2008, 02:57 PM   #6
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Dont think so, most of the cars on that list are pretty old

Getz, Civic, Grandis, Golf R32, IS250 just to name a few. Only Wheel COTY has that last 12 months clause.
Yeah spot on, From Memory, the BA falcon won its category 3 years running or something
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i'm mildly suprised the G6eT didnt make it to the luxury section considering the reviews it has won against cars like the Jaguar etc
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i'm mildly suprised the G6eT didnt make it to the luxury section considering the reviews it has won against cars like the Jaguar etc
I'm not sure, but I think they try and keep all of the nominees for the same category around the same price so that actual price itself doesn't come into play, I think it goes more along the lines of what you are getting for that amount of money, in this case, a hell of a lot more in the G6ET than in the Audi or Lexus.
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statistics mean nothing to the individual. i wouldnt buy a car based on wheter it won this award or not. so in saying that i dont think bogans will stop buying commonwhores
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I'm not sure, but I think they try and keep all of the nominees for the same category around the same price so that actual price itself doesn't come into play, I think it goes more along the lines of what you are getting for that amount of money, in this case, a hell of a lot more in the G6ET than in the Audi or Lexus.
Not so sure about that. Both the EVO and the BMW are $20k more than the R32 in the sports car category. If you then option up some of the things that come standard in the R32, add even more ontop of that.

To an earlier poster, the MKV R32 came out in 2006 so it's not necessarily cars released this year.
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The G6ET is in the prestige category, not the luxury category (against the Audi A4 1.8T and Lexus IS250), and I would be more impressed if it won that than if the XT wins the large car category. The Mondeo would have to be a chance in the mid-size >$28k too
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So whats wrong with the sportswagon?
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So whats wrong with the sportswagon?
its a hiddieous peice of garbage that only looks good from the ***.... and only the SS versions with the twin tailpipes...
the side on view is bad...

its slow, cant take a full sized load, and is bad on fuel...
oh and no lpg option :P
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Sportswagon is a swing'n'miss IMO....I hate it!
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The Commodore wagon in the standard model, is heavier, slower, thirstier and has less rear luggage space than a BF Falcon wagon, why would it win any award?
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The Commodore wagon in the standard model, is heavier, slower, thirstier and has less rear luggage space than a BF Falcon wagon, why would it win any award?
Because holden's go better
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i wouldnt buy a car based on wheter it won this award or not. so in saying that i dont think bogans will stop buying commonwhores
"They will when TATA start making them in India!"
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"They will when TATA start making them in India!"

As long as they have Holdens marketing, the perception of the car will still be Aussie and built in Australia.
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its a hiddieous peice of garbage that only looks good from the ***.... and only the SS versions with the twin tailpipes...
the side on view is bad...

its slow, cant take a full sized load, and is bad on fuel...
oh and no lpg option :P
And its only the twin tail pipes that look any good. Those tail lights together with the back end looks hideous.

Surely FG has got to win, certainly the standout model this year amongst everything else.
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And its only the twin tail pipes that look any good. Those tail lights together with the back end looks hideous.

Surely FG has got to win, certainly the standout model this year amongst everything else.

Accord will prob beat it, and lexus might beat the G6ET. (Remember Fords are just taxi's : )
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Accord will prob beat it, and lexus might beat the G6ET. (Remember Fords are just taxi's : )
Seem to remember a comparo between the accord and the FG, the FG had a similar fuel economy and was a better car (I think).
Ah here it is: http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11222225.

And the Lexus', who can afford one?
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I'm not sure, but I think they try and keep all of the nominees for the same category around the same price so that actual price itself doesn't come into play, I think it goes more along the lines of what you are getting for that amount of money, in this case, a hell of a lot more in the G6ET than in the Audi or Lexus.
Well the falcon will give you quality issues, arguments with car service reps and techs over warranty items, and poor resale, Audi will give you an expensive options list, and Lexus won't give you any options at all (well maybe three), but they will wash your car for life.
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And the Lexus', who can afford one?
Who wants one, they're just glammed up Toyota's
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So whats wrong with the sportswagon?
You mean the 300C station wagon with the comodore front.

I can't believe how they keep on copying other cars designs and the journo's carry on how cutting edge they are. :
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You mean the 300C station wagon with the comodore front.

I can't believe how they keep on copying other cars designs and the journo's carry on how cutting edge they are. :

Yeah I know I forgot to put my sarcasm smiley in

Funny that the W427 didn't get a mention either
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Seem to remember a comparo between the accord and the FG, the FG had a similar fuel economy and was a better car (I think).
Ah here it is: http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11222225.

And the Lexus', who can afford one?

Yeah I know that article. It was a close decision. Re-sale will be what loses it for Ford.
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Sportswagon is a swing'n'miss IMO....I hate it!
It seems to be selling alright. 1 in 4 Commodores sold is a sportswagon. It will be interesting if that keeps up.

On a side note, what is so sporty about an Omega wagon?
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