Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-09-2006, 08:19 PM   #1
EBFalcs
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SA
Posts: 621
Default BA XT vs VP 5L

i was just wondering what you's think would be quicker down the 1/4 mile

EBFalcs is offline  
Old 04-09-2006, 08:25 PM   #2
EBFalcs
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SA
Posts: 621
Default

i should have added, 4.0L auto BA and 5L auto VP
EBFalcs is offline  
Old 04-09-2006, 08:26 PM   #3
Smoked
Burnin Rubber
 
Smoked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Posts: 1,824
Default

VP becasue of it gearing and weight advantage.
__________________
2001 AUII Forte (LPG)
K&N Air Filter
Tickford Air Intake
***Coming Soon: Clear Side Repeaters***
Quote:
Originally Posted by The-ShowStoPPa
...dont get me wrong this 3.8v6 is pretty special, it does come with the popular shake rattle and roll option and the auto compliments this with the ever popular snap crackle and pop feature
Smoked is offline  
Old 04-09-2006, 08:26 PM   #4
EBFalcs
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SA
Posts: 621
Default

i should have been more clear, 4.0L auto BA and 5L auto VP
EBFalcs is offline  
Old 04-09-2006, 08:27 PM   #5
EBFalcs
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SA
Posts: 621
Default

damn computer playing games with me. sorry for the double post
EBFalcs is offline  
Old 04-09-2006, 08:28 PM   #6
EBFalcs
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SA
Posts: 621
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smoked
VP becasue of it gearing and weight advantage.
that's pretty much what i was thinking.
but wheel spin could be an issue
EBFalcs is offline  
Old 04-09-2006, 08:32 PM   #7
OHR100
Starter Motor
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 25
Default

My V6 commo ran 15.9 at WSID and i raced a VR SS auto and that ran 15.6. a couple times. So i would think the ford could beat a VP for sure..

WAZZA
OHR100 is offline  
Old 04-09-2006, 08:37 PM   #8
EBFalcs
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SA
Posts: 621
Default

VP's are lighter than VR's and they don't have that **** electronic trans, it's all hydraulic,
EBFalcs is offline  
Old 04-09-2006, 09:32 PM   #9
xr8man83
Grunt Files
 
xr8man83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Rockhampton QLD
Posts: 466
Default

yea i would say the ba cause it would get the power down better and i am not sure so dont give it to me if im wrong but didnt the vp have the 165kw engine in it??? and i would say it would probably break down to out:
xr8man83 is offline  
Old 04-09-2006, 09:41 PM   #10
EBFalcs
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SA
Posts: 621
Default

BA Specs:
- 182kw
- 380Nm
- 0-100 / 7.8 sec
- 400m / 15.9 sec
- 1700kg

VP Spec:
- 165kw
- 385Nm
- 0-100 / 7.2 sec
- 400m / 15.1 sec
- 1450kg
EBFalcs is offline  
Old 04-09-2006, 09:53 PM   #11
orsomxc
WAD05
Donating Member1
 
orsomxc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: The Switch
Posts: 235
Default

What's the use of starting a new thread and asking the question if you had the specs.

What a waste this thread is.
__________________
XC Fairmont Sedan - Cherry Black, Really Low, 17" Polished American Racing Hopsters, Original 250 X-Flow Block with alloy head. 30 thou over, ACL pistons, Crow cam, Redline manifold/350 holley, extractors, 2.5" exhaust, electronic ignition. Cream leather/suede XE ESP Front Buckets. Real nice cruiser :
orsomxc is offline  
Old 04-09-2006, 09:55 PM   #12
EBFalcs
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SA
Posts: 621
Default

i just found some, but who knows if they're right, i found heaps of different ones and used the average ones,
EBFalcs is offline  
Old 04-09-2006, 10:30 PM   #13
dandaman
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 72
Default

Specs don't mean anything, BA will win it, most vp's are probably tired, add, a second or two to that 1/4 mile time for the vp
dandaman is offline  
Old 04-09-2006, 11:15 PM   #14
chevypower
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
chevypower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Utah
Posts: 3,479
Default

i would say the BA would be a bit faster - dad once had the 165kw V8 Statesman and his works EBII Gli wagon 4.0 could keep up with it - he and my mum dragged each other at the lights - it was a draw i think (back when 165kw seemed like a fair bit of power) now a 3L diesel will put out more than that.
chevypower is offline  
Old 05-09-2006, 12:05 AM   #15
Abacus
Life's a Gas
 
Abacus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2,029
Default

Where is SlickHolden when you need him. This is a thread made for him.
Abacus is offline  
Old 05-09-2006, 12:09 AM   #16
ThoR_
Holdens Fall Apart!
 
ThoR_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Perth W.A
Posts: 881
Default

i went in an XT the other night my gosh it was slow
__________________
AU2 XR8, Venom Red, 200kw, K&N Panel Filter, 2.5" Lukey Exhaust
ThoR_ is offline  
Old 05-09-2006, 06:50 AM   #17
macca_779
Turbine Power
 
macca_779's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Wagga Wagga
Posts: 120
Default

I have a VN SS a bit quicker than a VP but fairly similar. And I had a young bloke try and race me in a BA 5.4 Ghia. Needless to say he didn't stand a chance. Weight is the key issue I launched with 1 car length advantage in 20 metres. And kept pulling away from there on. I stoped at 100k's but the hero in the Ghia kept going.
macca_779 is offline  
Old 05-09-2006, 08:47 AM   #18
Envious
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Envious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Wherever envi takes me...
Posts: 662
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by macca_779
I have a VN SS a bit quicker than a VP but fairly similar. And I had a young bloke try and race me in a BA 5.4 Ghia. Needless to say he didn't stand a chance. Weight is the key issue I launched with 1 car length advantage in 20 metres. And kept pulling away from there on. I stoped at 100k's but the hero in the Ghia kept going.
That really came down to the driver by the sounds of it
__________________
You'll have to speak up, im wearing a towel... *Homer Simpson*
Envious is offline  
Old 05-09-2006, 09:50 AM   #19
xr8man83
Grunt Files
 
xr8man83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Rockhampton QLD
Posts: 466
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EBFalcs
BA Specs:
- 182kw
- 380Nm
- 0-100 / 7.8 sec
- 400m / 15.9 sec
- 1700kg

VP Spec:
- 165kw
- 385Nm
- 0-100 / 7.2 sec
- 400m / 15.1 sec
- 1450kg

i wouldnt be going of of them times man cause that sounds like the most healthiest vp ever i owned a el gli before i got my ute and it would stay with vn and vp ss's from the lights and a stock ba xt is just about as quick as the na xr6 ba cause there is not much difference between them at all
xr8man83 is offline  
Old 05-09-2006, 10:02 AM   #20
fordAU
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Can Do Land
Posts: 332
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by xr8man83
i wouldnt be going of of them times man cause that sounds like the most healthiest vp ever i owned a el gli before i got my ute and it would stay with vn and vp ss's from the lights and a stock ba xt is just about as quick as the na xr6 ba cause there is not much difference between them at all
I think you will find that the XT is slightly quicker than the XR6 due to less weight, sad isnt it.

Cheers.
fordAU is offline  
Old 05-09-2006, 10:06 AM   #21
MickyB
Get in the ring!!!
 
MickyB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Mornington Peninsula
Posts: 888
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fordAU
I think you will find that the XT is slightly quicker than the XR6 due to less weight, sad isnt it.

Cheers.
even considering the lower diff ratio in the xr6?
assuming we are talking auto's here
__________________
FG MKII XR6T - Tuned by Pit Lane
MickyB is offline  
Old 05-09-2006, 10:07 AM   #22
xr8man83
Grunt Files
 
xr8man83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Rockhampton QLD
Posts: 466
Default

yea that could be the case hey but i would say that it would be just as quick if not quicker then a tired old vp ss
xr8man83 is offline  
Old 05-09-2006, 10:16 AM   #23
fordAU
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Can Do Land
Posts: 332
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by xr8man83
yea that could be the case hey but i would say that it would be just as quick if not quicker then a tired old vp ss
Your probably right, either way does not really matter, they are pretty slow cars anyway, drive a XT for work everyday.

Cheers.
fordAU is offline  
Old 05-09-2006, 10:31 AM   #24
ON_DUBS
[ON DUBS]
 
ON_DUBS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,541
Default

sick of these ridiculous "who would win" threads
__________________
BA MK2 XR6T
ON_DUBS is offline  
Old 05-09-2006, 10:38 AM   #25
Boss 290
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 447
Default

the xt is a 6 cylinda and the vp is it a v8? because if so why would you be comparing them the vp is lighter with 2 extra cylindas? in saying that though i would think the xt would get power down better
Boss 290 is offline  
Old 05-09-2006, 12:29 PM   #26
Steffo
LPG > You
 
Steffo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Posts: 4,277
Default

BA XT would absolutley destroy a VP V8.

Its more powerful, the chassis is far superior, so therefore better power down....

Not to mention that the BA is a relatively new car, whereas the VP is old, so it had less power and torque to begin with, and that 12-15 year old car won't have all of its kiloWatts and Newton metres anymore....

No contest win to the BA.
__________________
LPG Lovers Association President & Member #1.

:
Steffo is offline  
Old 05-09-2006, 12:30 PM   #27
Steffo
LPG > You
 
Steffo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Posts: 4,277
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MickyB
even considering the lower diff ratio in the xr6?
assuming we are talking auto's here
Yep. XT 6cyl can out-drag an XR6.
__________________
LPG Lovers Association President & Member #1.

:
Steffo is offline  
Old 05-09-2006, 01:31 PM   #28
Grechie
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Grechie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,728
Default

not only would it beat the VP5L, but if it was a 6 speed auto (BFMKII) XT it would embarrase the living crap out of it
__________________
2015 FGX XR8 - 557rwkw on E85
KPM Street Fighter
PCMTec
Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 - 255/35/19 - 275/35/19
Shockworks Coilovers
PITLANE AUTOMOTIVE & PERFORMANCE
Grechie is offline  
Old 05-09-2006, 01:34 PM   #29
niko
likes falcon's
 
niko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 6,091
Default

you people are comparing a nicely engineered vehicle to a donut machine !
__________________
www.carhubsales.com.au
niko is offline  
Old 05-09-2006, 04:22 PM   #30
EBFalcs
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SA
Posts: 621
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss 290
the xt is a 6 cylinda and the vp is it a v8? because if so why would you be comparing them the vp is lighter with 2 extra cylindas? in saying that though i would think the xt would get power down better
BA has 10 years tech on the VP.

i would say the BA would be a bit faster - dad once had the 165kw V8 Statesman and his works EBII Gli wagon 4.0 could keep up with it - he and my mum dragged each other at the lights - it was a draw i think (back when 165kw seemed like a fair bit of power) now a 3L diesel will put out more than that.

statesmans are heavy as **** thus they are slow
EBFalcs is offline  
Closed Thread


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 09:47 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL