Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > Non Ford Related Community Forums > The Bar

The Bar For non Automotive Related Chat

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-11-2014, 09:09 PM   #1
ford man xf
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 1,674
Default China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

Quote:

A J-31 stealth fighter of the Chinese People's Liberation Army Air Force is seen during a test flight ahead of the 10th China International Aviation and Aerospace Exhibition in Zhuhai, Guangdong province, November 10, 2014. REUTERS/Alex Lee

ZHUHAI/BEIJING (Reuters) - China unveiled a sophisticated new stealth fighter jet at an air show on Tuesday, a show of muscle during a visit by U.S. President Barack Obama for an Asia-Pacific summit.


China hopes the much-anticipated J-31 stealth aircraft, developed by the Aviation Industry Corp of China (Avic), the country's top aircraft maker, will compete with U.S.-made hardware in export markets.


The twin-engine fighter jet was unveiled at the China International Aviation and Aerospace Exhibition in the southern city of Zhuhai, a biennial event at which China shows off its military technology, a Reuters witness said.


The J-31 conducted a demonstration but was not put on display afterwards although a mock-up version was on show.


An Avic spokesman declined to comment on any orders for the aircraft.


"We were told not to do any promotion for the plane," said the spokesman, Fu Mingyao. He did not elaborate.


There are slated to be at least two more J-31 demonstrations at the show, Avic officials said.


China hopes the J-31 will compete with the U.S.-made F-35 stealth aircraft as China works to strengthen its standing as an arms producer, according to China military watchers and state media reports.


"Experts predict that the J-31 will make rapid inroads in the international market in the future, and will undoubtedly steal the limelight from the F-35," the ruling Communist Party's People's Daily reported on its website in August 2013.


It said the aircraft would be particularly attractive to countries that are cut off from U.S. arms exports.


The J-31 is about the same size as the F-35, the U.S. Department of Defense said in a report this year.


Stealth aircraft are key for China's air force to evolve from a mostly territorial air force to developing the ability to carry out both offensive and defensive operations, the Pentagon said in the report about developments in China's military.


The J-31 is China's second domestically produced stealth fighter. Analysts say development of stealth aircraft enable China to better project its power as it takes on a more assertive stance in the East China and South China seas.


President Xi Jinping has been pushing to strengthen China's 2.3 million-strong armed forces.


Obama, attending an Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum meeting in Beijing, is due to meet Xi on Wednesday.


(story corrects description of air show in third paragraph to "biennial")


(Editing by Robert Birsel)
https://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/25...hter-aircraft/

__________________
Quote:
It's pretty amusing though, considering the XR8 next year will be reborn with the same spec engine as the FG GT, could you imagine being a HSV owner forking out all that money on a brand new GTS, then pulling up to the lights next to a FH XR8 and then sitting side by side all the way to 100 and beyond
Even more embarrasing would be the lower spec variants of the VF in HSV's stable getting whopped by a factory XR8.
ford man xf is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-11-2014, 09:14 PM   #2
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 49,437
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

Maybe we should look at chucking an order in?
Franco Cozzo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 12-11-2014, 09:25 PM   #3
ford man xf
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 1,674
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Damo View Post
Maybe we should look at chucking an order in?
lol Damo with all the money everyones pumped into the JSF there's no turning back now! People mock the JSF but wait until all the bugs are ironed out, I think most people will be impressed with its capabilities.
__________________
Quote:
It's pretty amusing though, considering the XR8 next year will be reborn with the same spec engine as the FG GT, could you imagine being a HSV owner forking out all that money on a brand new GTS, then pulling up to the lights next to a FH XR8 and then sitting side by side all the way to 100 and beyond
Even more embarrasing would be the lower spec variants of the VF in HSV's stable getting whopped by a factory XR8.
ford man xf is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 12-11-2014, 09:26 PM   #4
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 49,437
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

Quote:
Originally Posted by ford man xf View Post
lol Damo with all the money everyones pumped into the JSF there's no turning back now! People mock the JSF but wait until all the bugs are ironed out, I think most people will be impressed with its capabilities.
We'll chuck a deposit down and kick some tyres and test her out, maybe buy just one
Franco Cozzo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 12-11-2014, 09:55 PM   #5
Bossxr8
Peter Car
 
Bossxr8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: geelong
Posts: 23,145
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

Looks like an F22 Raptor copy. Can't they do anything original?
Bossxr8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-11-2014, 09:59 PM   #6
CoupeKing
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,318
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

Looks so similar to an F-22 Raptor.....Didnt they hack the blueprints for it years ago?

What the U.S should do is design something that has epic design faults and let them steal the master plan.

....but the faults only show at mach 3 above 50,000 feet, then all debris gets blasted into Saturn`s Ice Belt.
CoupeKing is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-11-2014, 09:59 PM   #7
jpblue1000
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
jpblue1000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 2,252
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bossxr8 View Post
Looks like an F22 Raptor copy. Can't they do anything original?
Why, let everyone else pay for development then copy them. Good financial sense

JP
jpblue1000 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 12-11-2014, 11:11 PM   #8
Itsme
Experienced Member
 
Itsme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Australasia
Posts: 7,660
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

Quote:
Originally Posted by jpblue1000 View Post
Why, let everyone else pay for development then copy them. Good financial sense

JP
And it will be cheaper to purchase.
Itsme is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 12-11-2014, 11:50 PM   #9
uniacidz
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
uniacidz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,460
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

Only thing is, will come by China post to Aust and usually takes about a month.

Oh wells

Should have Paypal Protection though
__________________
Before -
ED Falcon Futura (sold)
EL XR6 (R.I.P.)
VX SS (R.I.P)
VE Berlina
uniacidz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 12-11-2014, 11:56 PM   #10
Road_Warrior
Pity the fool
 
Road_Warrior's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wait Awhile
Posts: 8,997
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

Meh, 4th generation aircraft wearing fake 5th gen clothes.
__________________
Fords I own or have owned:

1970 XW Falcon GT replica | 1970 XW Falcon | 1971 XY Fairmont | 1973 ZG Fairlane | 1986 XF Falcon panel van | 1987 XFII Falcon S-Pack | 1988 XF Falcon GLS ute | 1993 EBII Fairmont V8 | 1996 XG Falcon ute | 2000 AU Falcon wagon | 2004 BA Falcon XT | 2012 SZ Territory Titanium AWD

Proud to buy Australian and support Ford Australia through thick and thin
Road_Warrior is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 13-11-2014, 05:25 AM   #11
Fordman1
Donating Member
Donating Member3
 
Fordman1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,800
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

Quote:
Originally Posted by Road_Warrior View Post
Meh, 4th generation aircraft wearing fake 5th gen clothes.
This.

Meh, from me too ......
Fordman1 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-11-2014, 05:50 AM   #12
timeout
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 133
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

The great wall of aeroplanes.
timeout is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-11-2014, 09:37 AM   #13
Maka
Au Falcon = Mr Reliable
 
Maka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: North West Slopes & Plains NSW
Posts: 4,076
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Embodiment of the AFF spirit in his efforts with ACP. 
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

Give the Chinese a/f another 10 years & they will be probably pretty close quality wise. Their engines are not quite there yet. F -22 with another 10 years r&d will comfortably keep its advantage though.

cheers, Maka
__________________
Ford AU Series Magazine Scans Here - www.fordforums.com.au/photos/index.php?cat=2792

Proud owner of a optioned keeper S1 Tickford Falcon AU XR6 VCT - "it's actually a better-balanced car than the XR8, goes almost as hard and uses about two-thirds of the fuel" (Drive.com 2007)
Maka is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-11-2014, 12:12 PM   #14
mcflux
Banned
Donating Member1
 
mcflux's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 8,303
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

mcflux is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 13-11-2014, 12:57 PM   #15
Stefan
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Stefan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,193
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

Well at least they're building planes.....we can't build anything....

"Please, buy our coal and gas......"

I wonder who will be laughing in a few years.
Stefan is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
4 users like this post:
Old 13-11-2014, 01:09 PM   #16
Road_Warrior
Pity the fool
 
Road_Warrior's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wait Awhile
Posts: 8,997
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stefan View Post
Well at least they're building planes.....we can't build anything....

"Please, buy our coal and gas......"

I wonder who will be laughing in a few years.
True that. Although we assembled all but the first 4 of our F/A-18A Hornets here and make some parts for the JSF program.

Even our gas sales to China will go south soon I think if reports are correct.
__________________
Fords I own or have owned:

1970 XW Falcon GT replica | 1970 XW Falcon | 1971 XY Fairmont | 1973 ZG Fairlane | 1986 XF Falcon panel van | 1987 XFII Falcon S-Pack | 1988 XF Falcon GLS ute | 1993 EBII Fairmont V8 | 1996 XG Falcon ute | 2000 AU Falcon wagon | 2004 BA Falcon XT | 2012 SZ Territory Titanium AWD

Proud to buy Australian and support Ford Australia through thick and thin
Road_Warrior is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 13-11-2014, 05:04 PM   #17
olfella
Cranky old bastard
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 9,394
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

Do they do submarines?? I hear we are in the market for a couple.
olfella is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 13-11-2014, 07:05 PM   #18
ILLaViTaR
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
ILLaViTaR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,699
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

Does this mean we could perhaps rezone and develop the Dandenong Valley Park-lands into Glen Waverly airport?

I see no usable land in Balwyn nor rail in Doncaster. And we really need to encourage foreign investment of these enemy fighter jets into the Glen Waverly region. Otherwise the lack of Chinese national security will stagnate foreign investment growth which according to Joe Hockey is the last thing we want to be doing with the mining boom coming to an end.

What's more important. National security or the current property boom? I would've thought the answer here's obvious. We need foreign investment, that way the oldies cash in big off foreigners and in turn inflate the market, forcing their grandchildren to supplement the debt of foreigners for the ones who don't have trusts. It's great honestly.
__________________
EB II 1992 Fairmont - koni reds, wade 977b, 2.5inch/4480's and much more to come!

Last edited by ILLaViTaR; 13-11-2014 at 07:12 PM.
ILLaViTaR is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 14-11-2014, 12:21 AM   #19
Rockape
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Rockape's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Mandurah W.A
Posts: 503
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

Quote:
Originally Posted by olfella View Post
Do they do submarines?? I hear we are in the market for a couple.
Have a look on Alibaba
__________________
PX1 Ranger

Kawasaki ZZR1100
Rockape is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 14-11-2014, 12:33 AM   #20
Mechan1k
Moderator
Donating Member1
 
Mechan1k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Kenthurst
Posts: 40,403
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Brings a wealth of knowledge to the forums and is frequently giving helpful advice. Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Always willing to help out with technical information. 
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

J-31 ... fits well in line with other Chery models they produce as well
Mechan1k is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 14-11-2014, 09:07 AM   #21
cheap
Wirlankarra yanama
 
cheap's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: God's Country
Posts: 2,103
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

Stolen F35 plans with some adaptations. Hopefully it will be built with the same crappy metal parts that they sell to the west and fall apart in-flight.

The Chinese have churned out a lot of military hardware over the past 24 months. This is becoming another arms race and leads to one thing. The yanks are investing in new generation high tech robotics, where as the Chinese will use manpower (they have a lot of that).
cheap is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 14-11-2014, 10:09 PM   #22
ILLaViTaR
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
ILLaViTaR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,699
Default Re: China unveils sophisticated stealth fighter aircraft

I'm not kidding when I say the yanks have silent black triangles that defy gravity (...with colored lights all around them lol).

I'm starting to believe we've had gravity disruption since the nazi days (it can be traced back to tesla before aliens)

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0325232140.htm

What a waste of money and infastructure. 1 flying triangle would **** up an entire airforce. **** robots!
__________________
EB II 1992 Fairmont - koni reds, wade 977b, 2.5inch/4480's and much more to come!
ILLaViTaR is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 04:26 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL