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Starter Motor
Join Date: Apr 2013
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Hi guys
I'm new to Ford and so far have been happy with my fiesta. Just bought it used in Feb 2013 The car pairs with my iPhone 5 (ios 6) and I can make and receive calls through voice control or otherwise. The aux cable works for playing music. However there's no option for me to play BT audio. I have the LX so there's no USB port. I took it to adrien brien ford in adelaide and they said after two attempts on two different dates that the car wasn't capable of playing BT audio. I called Firs australia and explained to them what was on the website showing 2008+ models capable of playing BT audio streaming. An I wrong here or does the LX truly not have the ability to play BT audio? I told them I'd read online that the BT module needed to be updated. The dealer said they'd ordered some cable the first time I went in. The second time with the cable they said they didn't know. Help!!! |
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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I'm pretty sure it doesn't. But I'd be more than happy if someone can prove me wrong.
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Apr 2013
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I'd be disappointed if it didn't but at the same time it would put the whole issue to bed once and for all. I've emailed another Ford dealership in Adelaide to see if they can help me out because I'm pretty tired of going back to this dealership only to be told "your car doesn't have the capability, I've worked on it for a few hours now and I can't sort it out" but then that is different than what the website is saying. I assumed the stereo system (bar the USB) was the same general format on models of the same year? Could be wrong.
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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Keep us posted definitely as I'd love to have that feature.
There's threads on WP from people who have successfully applied a 'patch' using their USB port to make BT audio work, however as you pointed out the LX has no USB port. I'm assuming I do have the latest head unit update as I recently took it to a dealership for an unrelated BT issue and they said they updated it. |
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 20
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Yeah I'm with you, it just *seems* like the answer I get from the dealership is a cop out.
Answer 1 (when I first brought it in): just use your aux cable Response: its a feature of the car, I want it working Answer 2 (second trip): your car isn't capable Response: on Ford.au it says its a feature of all 2008+ Fiestas Dealer response: You'll have to take that up with Ford then Me: !!!!!!!!! haha, sensing my frustration? |
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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I'm with you there. Must admit I always assumed (perhaps wrongly) that WS didn't have that feature.
Btw..Do you have a source for your 2008+ info? PS: I just realised that I never really checked for BT audio (using AUX - which apparently the EU models use) after the upgrade. Although I'm 99% sure it's not going to work, I'll check it out when the Mrs gets home and report back. |
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 20
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http://www.ford-mobile-connectivity.com/
If you select car --> fiesta --> model week 24/2008 --> select your phone (iPhone 5 here) --> shows compatibility with everything running iOS 6 If thats not the case Ford needs to seriously update it's website. |
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#8 | ||
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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hmmm you're right.
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 497
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What happens when you ask;
"External Device." Answers external device "Bluetooth" Should answer Bluetooth. And then you just say "play" |
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Join Date: Apr 2013
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I'll try that Pursya, will let you know what happens. Thanks for the tip!
I should note that on my iPhone itself when I go into the MP3 player, there is no option to send the audio to anything else. In a friends car (BMW 3 series), my iPhone shows that little triangle logo in the bottom right and I can export the audio output to bluetooth as long as the phone is paired to the car. I don't get that output. When I am in my garage the output logo is there but the only options are for my Airport Express in the house. |
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having Fiesta withdrawals
Join Date: May 2011
Location: God's Country (The Shire)
Posts: 595
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try pressing the AUX button twice also. only option on the voice commands is "line In".
I cannot get into it either. never have been.
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#12 | ||
Starter Motor
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 20
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Yeah voice command and double pressing aux doesn't.
Lady from another dealership told me that it's only available on zetec models. I don't know how that makes sense? Aren't the features of te stereo the same? |
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 497
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Have you looked at the video on this page?
http://www.ford-mobile-connectivity....wnloadsUpdates Check your owners manual. Is there a USB dock in your glovebox? I recall another position mentioned as well when I did the update, but cannot remember it. I'll keep thinking..... |
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 20
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No exposed USB slot in any of the LX models. That video requires a USB in order to do the update so without a dealership to do it I'm out of luck :S
I'm still going to push the issue with Ford until there is absolutely no way it can be done. It says it on the website, until one of them shows me the line that says "Zetec models only" I refuse to believe it. |
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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What I can see browsing the net, is that there was a Bluetooth module change sometime in 2008.
The cars with the old module cannot be upgraded. The new module may or may not have a USB port fitted to it. Hard to tell. eBay has the upgraded module for $670! http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GENUINE-F...ht_2258wt_1014 |
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 20
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Thanks for the info.
Wouldn't mine (being a 2010 model) have the new module if the change came in 2008? Therefore mine should be upgradeable provided I have the right equipment to do so (ie. the dealer). I replied to the ford dealership in Norwood. I'll let you know what they say regarding the zetec-only nonsense. |
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: W.A.
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Apr 2013
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Hey yeah that's awesome, looks really promising. If I can't get this fixed through Ford (and I should...) I might try and look this way. Wonder if it'll work exactly like BT audio and all my steering wheel to control the playback, etc.
I see you had a 2010 Focus. Did it have BT audio? Edit: Seems like the link changed from the Belkin thing to an eBay listing. That listing probably doesn't look like it'd work. The Belkin maybe. |
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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I tested it out again with my (supposedly) updated Head Unit firmware and it's a no go. Unless there's some specific update for BT audio, the one performed by my dealer when I was having unrelated BT issues doesn't seem to do the trick.
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having Fiesta withdrawals
Join Date: May 2011
Location: God's Country (The Shire)
Posts: 595
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The BT unit is under the glovebox where the aircon duct is. pain in the rear to get to and the USB port on it isn't your average sized port so I haven't been able to try it.
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#21 | ||
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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I have this in my Toyota;
http://www.buymac.com.au/product/bel...FYggpQod0B4AAg It streams audio from the iPhone, not bad either. And does hands free phone as well. But of course it's actually an FM transmitter not a Bluetooth streamer. But it is Bluetooth for the phone of course. Drawbacks, hard to skip a track, no going back, no repeat track . And you have to have to have a dedicated FM station button for the device. When the phone rings, you need to change to radio and the dedicated button to receive the call. No voice control, no tack listing/readout. A nice device, but. No substitute for the full voice control n the fiesta. |
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#22 | ||
Starter Motor
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 20
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Nah not really what I'm looking for. I've got the bluetooth on the phone working fine, the reason for pursuing the BT Audio was to remove the cable clutter that is currently taking up the front of my car.
Hopefully someone else has experience (or SUCCESS) with getting the LX model to play BT Audio |
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#23 | ||
Starter Motor
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 1
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I am also interested to know if this can be done. In the same boat with my 2012 WT CL.
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#24 | ||
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 20
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I got a call from another dealer and they said BT audio can only be done with the USB-BT module. That to me is unacceptable. Ford customer service in Victoria called and asked me to go back to the original dealer I went to and they are going to try again. Ill be writing a letter for Ford Australia about this. Don't advertise something on your website then turn around and say its only on the higher end model (unless you say that on the website).
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#25 | ||
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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Any specific USB-BT module? Is is something I can purchase?
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#26 | ||
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Join Date: Apr 2013
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Well the guy from the dealership quoted that it would cost a lot of money (not worth the upgrade) but I don't know how much the part itself would cost sorry. He quoted $5000 all up for the upgrade. I flat out said no but I also think that was a shocking overexaggeration. Thats a third of the cost of what I paid for the car...
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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LOL $5000!! If the quote is any indication I'd take the remainder of what they said with a bucket of salt. Knowing Ford and there history of CS I might start looking at ebay hacks to see if I can get this to work.
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Join Date: Apr 2013
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Haha yeah I took the $5000 quote as a "we dont want to do it so we'll quote an outrageous sum". I wonder if I'd called the bluff and asked to book it in how much it would actually cost. Replacing the module would take no more than an hour (once they had the module there) and the update would take maximum 45min
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#29 | ||
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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I did some research and despite Ford's claims about BT on their website, it's pretty much clear that if you don't have USB then BT streaming does not work.
I stumbled onto this thread where you can retrofit USB (BT module and USB cable) at a reasonable cost (approx $300) and make it all work. It just takes time to read through the topic and work it out but it seems very doable. Keep in mind it's probably much easier to find 2nd hand parts in the UK. http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums...ith-bluetooth/ |
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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Before I decided to sell, i was thinking of finding a way of relocating the aux jack to where my phone is mounted with a switch toggling between either aux jack. The parts can be easily found at Jaycar and removing the trim between the aux jack and the glovebox was actually quite easy after the episode with the centre armrest. |
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