Guess what a BA Mk2 XR6 is going for at the auctions ?

[fordy-two]

Info in case you are looking at an XR6 or Fairmont. Compare to value of a 11/03 BA futura 88,000km sold for $10,750 (though this was unusually cheap. You gotta be ready for the bargain !). Commodores of the same vintage & km's still sell for up to $2k more than the equivalent falcon, except for the VZ's which have less difference. Price drops a lot if over 1000,000 km, even if just over.

You can probably still see the pictures on Pickles Melbourne web site:

31 CP 01/05, FORD, FALCON, BA Mk II XR6, Sedan, 5 Seats
SEMI AUTO, 4.0 ltr, 6 cyl, Unleaded, Multi-Point Injected, 32,447 kms (Showing On Odometer), VIXEN RED, Rego.No:THK921, Aircond., Airbag Dual, P/Steer, P/Wind, ABS, IRS, Cru. Cont, Cent.Lock, CD Player, Radio, Jack, Traction Control, Tow Bar, Alloy Wheels, Multi Funct S/Wheel, Rear Spoiler, Trim: GREY CLOTH , GST Included in Sale Price

sold for $22,200

37 CP 01/05, FORD, FALCON, BA Mk II XR6, Sedan, 5 Seats
SEMI AUTO, 4.0 ltr, 6 cyl, Unleaded, Multi-Point Injected, 48,195 kms (Showing On Odometer), MERCURY, Rego.No:TJD250, Aircond., Airbag Dual, P/Steer, P/Wind, ABS, IRS, Cru. Cont, Cent.Lock, CD Player, Radio, Jack, Traction Control, Tow Bar, Alloy Wheels, Climate Control, Multi Funct S/Wheel, Rear Spoiler, Trim: GREY CLOTH , GST Included in Sale Price

sold for $22,300

36 CP 11/04, FORD, FAIRMONT, BA Mk II, Sedan, 5 Seats
AUTOMATIC, 4.0 ltr, 6 cyl, Unleaded, Multi-Point Injected, 55,311 kms (Showing On Odometer), ZEST, Rego.No:TGX784, Aircond., Airbag Dual, P/Steer, P/Wind, ABS, IRS, Cru. Cont, Cent.Lock, CD Player, Radio, Jack, Traction Control, Tow Bar, Airbag Side Various, Alloy Wheels, Climate Control, Multi Funct S/Wheel, Park, Trim: GREY CLOTH , GST Included in Sale Price

passed in for 15,500.

46 CP 11/04, FORD, FALCON, BA Mk II XR6, Sedan, 5 Seats
SEMI AUTO, 4.0 ltr, 6 cyl, Unleaded, Multi-Point Injected, 44,328 kms (Showing On Odometer), ENVY, Rego.No:TGL835, Aircond., Airbag Dual, P/Steer, P/Wind, ABS, IRS, Cru. Cont, Cent.Lock, CD Player, Radio, Jack, Tow Bar, Alloy Wheels, Multi Funct S/Wheel, Trim: BLACK CLOTH , GST Included in Sale Price

Passed in at $22,400, may sell, refered to seller. Usually they sell, maybe for a coupla hundred more.

53 CP 01/05, FORD, FALCON, BA Mk II XR6, Sedan, 5 Seats
SEMI AUTO, 4.0 ltr, 6 cyl, Unleaded, Multi-Point Injected, 56,832 kms (Showing On Odometer), RAPID, Rego.No:TIE925, Aircond., Airbag Dual, P/Steer, P/Wind, ABS, IRS, Cru. Cont, Cent.Lock, CD Player, Radio, Jack, Traction Control, Tow Bar, Alloy Wheels, Multi Funct S/Wheel, Rear Spoiler, Trim: GREY CLOTH , GST Included in Sale Price
sold for $21,600. $21,600 !!! Don't buy a new yellow car !


54 CP 01/05, FORD, FAIRMONT, BA Mk II Ghia, Sedan, 5 Seats
AUTOMATIC, 4.0 ltr, 6 cyl, Unleaded, Multi-Point Injected, 30,850 kms (Showing On Odometer), SILHOUETTE, Rego.No:THH469, Aircond., Airbag Dual, P/Steer, P/Wind, ABS, IRS, Cru. Cont, Cent.Lock, P/Seats, CD Player, Radio, Jack, Traction Control, Airbag Side Various, Alloy Wheels, Climate Control, Multi Funct S/Wheel, Park, Trim: GREY CLOTH , GST Included in Sale Price

sold for $24,600

59 CP 11/03, FORD, FALCON, BA Futura, Sedan, 5 Seats
SEMI AUTO, 4.0 ltr, 6 cyl, Unleaded, Multi-Point Injected, 88,978, ICE MINT, Rego.No:SMS802, Aircond., Airbag Dual, P/Steer, P/Wind, ABS, IRS, Cru. Cont, Cent.Lock, CD Player, Radio, Jack, Alloy Wheels, Multi Funct S/Wheel, Phone Kit, Trim: GREY CLOTH , GST Included in Sale Price

sold for $10,750. Not an XT, a Futura ! Pays to pay attention, later the same in an 11/03 XT went for $11,200 and a similar 01/04 XT went for over $1000 more.

63 CP 01/05, FORD, FAIRMONT, BA Mk II Ghia, Sedan, 5 Seats
AUTOMATIC, 4.0 ltr, 6 cyl, Unleaded, Multi-Point Injected, 56,727 kms (Showing On Odometer), SHOCKWAVE, Rego.No:THH464, Aircond., Airbag Dual, P/Steer, P/Wind, ABS, IRS, Cru. Cont, Cent.Lock, CD Player, Radio, Jack, Traction Control, Tow Bar, Airbag Side Various, Alloy Wheels, Climate Control, Multi Funct S/Wheel, Park, Trim: GREY LEATHER , GST Included in Sale Price

sold $23,700.

73 CP 10/04, FORD, FAIRMONT, BA Mk II Ghia, Sedan, 5 Seats
AUTOMATIC, 4.0 ltr, 6 cyl, Unleaded, Multi-Point Injected, 112,952 kms (Showing On Odometer), MERCURY SILVER, Rego.No:TFR596, Aircond., Airbag Dual, P/Steer, P/Wind, ABS, IRS, Cru. Cont, Cent.Lock, CD Player, Radio, Jack, Traction Control, Tow Bar, Airbag Side Various, Alloy Wheels, Climate Control, Multi Funct S/Wheel, Park, Trim: CREAM LEATHER , GST Included in Sale Price

$18,400 passed in.

Who would buy a new car ? All these have service records and most of these still have 11 months warranty. When I bought my first new car it only came with 12 months, 40,000km warranty !

[Ando_Leigh]

i just brought mine from Pickles in sydney Black MK11 XR6 for $23000 with 40 000K's on it.

i was going to buy a 03 from a yard for that

[GXL078]

You can pay a lot more for an XR 6 than a Fairmont with EXACTLY the same perfomance and less luxury features (??)
Fairmont would be cheaper to insure too. Just add body kit and suspension.

[Ando_Leigh]

i found that the mk1 Ghia alot cheaper then the Mk1 xr6 but when u get into the MK11 the Ghia's were going about 2-3k more

[fordy-two]

Originally Posted by Ando_Leigh

i just brought mine from Pickles in sydney Black MK11 XR6 for $23000 with 40 000K's on it.

i was going to buy a 03 from a yard for that

Just sold a black one for $23,250 , so you're right on the money:

92 CP 01/05, FORD, FALCON, BA Mk II XR6, Sedan, 5 Seats
SEMI AUTO, 4.0 ltr, 6 cyl, Unleaded, Multi-Point Injected, 34,573 kms (Showing On Odometer), SILHOUETTE, Rego.No:THK920, Aircond., Airbag Dual, P/Steer, P/Wind, ABS, IRS, Cru. Cont, Cent.Lock, CD Player, Radio, Jack, Traction Control, Alloy Wheels, Multi Funct S/Wheel, Rear Spoiler, Trim: GREY CLOTH , GST Included in Sale Price

[needaXYGT]

only problem is you cant test drive them! in 2002 my dad bought an AU 2001 fairmont Ghia. it was the cleanest fairmont he could find with 48,000ks (now done 200,000ks). the previous owner was single, no kids and was only ever used by himself. the back seat was never used lol. BUT, this didnt mean that it wouldnt need a brand new engine :O. there was fault in the crank shaft which eventualy wore out the engine, and being still under warranty (lucky) the ford dealer just slapped a new one in.

[Kryton]

i got my 03 BA fairmont from Pickles. $12650 fixed price.
youd be crazy to go to a car dealer.

[rodderz]

We got an 04 BAXT with 42,000km for $14500 6 months ago, had a few months reg, great condition no dints or repairs to be done

Pays to look around and keep your eye out

[chich]

Love the resale value of these Falcons... Your $40K becomes $15K in 3 years. At the other extreme you have something like a 15yo Honda Prelude ($40K new) that still sells for $10K. Then they wonder why people aren't buying Aussie cars anymore..

[sly_ba]

A couple of months ago I purchased a black BF XR6 ZF 6 speed auto, FULL I-design interior, tow bar, absolulty immac with 30K on it for 27K.......

[sfr rob]

but you really dont know what your getting though do you.. personally I would rather buy from a car yard (warranty etc), rather than auction... I am sure plenty of lemons go through there and are sold off.

[YOOT]

Originally Posted by chich

Love the resale value of these Falcons... Your $40K becomes $15K in 3 years. At the other extreme you have something like a 15yo Honda Prelude ($40K new) that still sells for $10K. Then they wonder why people aren't buying Aussie cars anymore..

I bought my BA XR6T in 2004 for $39K on the road, sold it in late 2006 (2.5 years old) for $30K. How is that bad resale?

ALthough I'll never buy another Ford. The Japanese and European offerings are too good at the moment. Hence why I now have a Forester XT... Black of course!

[smiley]

I got my 02 BA xt with 60,000km's for 12,900 last march. Only problem with it was warped disc brakes.

[rodderz]

Originally Posted by chich

Love the resale value of these Falcons... Your $40K becomes $15K in 3 years. At the other extreme you have something like a 15yo Honda Prelude ($40K new) that still sells for $10K. Then they wonder why people aren't buying Aussie cars anymore..

These are wholesale auctions though mostly. The car we bought was from a place where a lot of caryards buy from, who would put probably 5g's on top of the price

[GXL078]

Originally Posted by SLY_AU3

A couple of months ago I purchased a black BF XR6 ZF 6 speed auto, FULL I-design interior, tow bar, absolulty immac with 30K on it for 27K.......

SO the girl I sold my SP23 to could have bought your XR6 for the same money. Mine had 32,000Km. What's I design, is that leather?

[PSI-54L]

Originally Posted by sfr rob

but you really dont know what your getting though do you.. personally I would rather buy from a car yard (warranty etc), rather than auction... I am sure plenty of lemons go through there and are sold off.

Depending on year of manufacture and klms they are often still covered under full car warranty.
Even police / ambulance vehicles with the exception of interior.

All these cars go through reasonable testing before being put on the lot and if they are sold and have major faults, most of the auctioneers will agree to have them repaired or a suitable vehicle swapped.

We buy a coulpe of cars a month through fowles & pickles and have these places have always been very reasonable.

[sly_ba]

Originally Posted by xcgxl

SO the girl I sold my SP23 to could have bought your XR6 for the same money. Mine had 32,000Km. What's I design, is that leather?

i-design interior is a special interior package which is half leather and half swaide (not sure on the spelling, sorry). Its pretty rare on lower models but can be found in XR8's and other upper class models somtimes.

[kocho]

I bought my car (November 2003 BA Futura with 136,021km) for $10,000. Not at Fowles though.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Futuras are the best value, coupla hundred more then an XT usually but you guaranteed cruise control, alloys, extra colour coding and full power windows, if i had to buy a cheap car id buy a BA mark II futura with under 40kays for about 14 - 15 grand, unbeatable value.

[ivorya]

Only prob with buying from the auction is warranty. Ok so u might get the remaining new car warranty but is that enough?

[05MkIIFutura]

Originally Posted by needaXYGT

and being still under warranty (lucky) the ford dealer just slapped a new one in.

Not lucky, that is why fleet cars are attractive - the Factory warranty is the equivelent of a dealer warranty, but better!!!

[05MkIIFutura]

Originally Posted by sfr rob

but you really dont know what your getting though do you.. personally I would rather buy from a car yard (warranty etc), rather than auction... I am sure plenty of lemons go through there and are sold off.

Pickles sells them with NRMA inspections IIRC and, like I said earlier, all major problems are covered by the warranty anyway.....

It is pretty easy to work out how a car has been treated, you pretty much work it all out.

[05MkIIFutura]

Originally Posted by LSTerritoryGhia

Futuras are the best value, coupla hundred more then an XT usually but you guaranteed cruise control, alloys, extra colour coding and full power windows, if i had to buy a cheap car id buy a BA mark II futura with under 40kays for about 14 - 15 grand, unbeatable value.

Yes, the XR's and Ghia's demand a premium. Futura's are possibly the best value in the entire range. More features than a XR, but goes without the fancy stuff in a Ghia like climate control.

[XF460]

See any Teritories go?
How much?

[S3SR]

Originally Posted by ivorya

Only prob with buying from the auction is warranty. Ok so u might get the remaining new car warranty but is that enough?

money you save is spent fixing it after warranty expires...no such thing as a free lunch

or better yet, buy another for even less

[Franky]

How to you look that up on the website, i tried a search and it told me there was nothing even though I put 'all' cars in Melb

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by FALCONSR

or better yet, buy another for even less

That's what I intend doing, hopefully in the next month or two. I paid $14,800 for my 04 plate BA XT a year ago, but it had 77,000klm. That was thru Fowles.

IMHO the Govt fleet auctions are the only way to buy a late model car. Stuff lining the pockets of a car shark.

[Falc'man]

Yeah auctions are the way to go imo.

I bought my 2006 plate Futura, 36k, 5 months rego, ex council car for $18,450...

The same day, XR6t ex-police 45k, 06 plate, $23,000!!! I'm still kicking myself for missing out.

Black XR6T NOT ex police, 36k, 06 plate, $29,000!!!

And there was atleast 5 2005/2006 XR8s ( most ex police ) go between $22k and $26k.

[FGX-351]

Originally Posted by fordy-two

Price drops a lot if over 1000,000 km, even if just over.

Yeah il'd expect it to for that many kays:P

[XR8-260]

This just proves that it is unwise to buy any commodore/falcon brand new - depreciation is a killer. Wait 2 years and get it for half price .