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Old 01-07-2015, 09:24 PM   #1
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http://www.news.com.au/finance/busin...-1227423496682
Ford and Nissan down 16.8 and 16.9 % for the year. Not as bad as Honda thou, down 70% !!!!
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No wonder. They hammer the advertising big time....

Good for them
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5500 Hyundai I30s plus its sedan version, Elantra with 689. Its a massage result. Doesn't even include its sister the Kia Cerato.

I'm surprised with all small these 4 cylinders sales, where are they all? Where I live all new cars are basically dual cabs or Commodores.
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Might have a bit to do with the massive price cuts on the i30. 3out of 4 were cut price sales at around 7k cheaper then normal at just under 20k. How on earth are they selling any i20s...or are they just free.
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Might have a bit to do with the massive price cuts on the i30. 3out of 4 were cut price sales at around 7k cheaper then normal at just under 20k. How on earth are they selling any i20s...or are they just free.
About a year ago I recall seeing the I20 for $14,990 DA with free auto, I think the 5dr was a grand more.

Even at these prices, they must be making money. They spend a mint on advertising and sponsorship as well.

Most of their models are sold in several dozen countries - must be cheap to produce when you are pumping them out in the millions.
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Most of their models are sold in several dozen countries - must be cheap to produce when you are pumping them out in the millions.
The i30 is missing a lot of the expensive tech that say something that like a Mazda3 has. Old port injection and torsion bar rear suspension compared to the direct injected engine and multi link rear of the Mazda3.

Cars are getting bloody cheap though, Volkswagen announced their MY16 updates today. Big value increases across the range. Mate scored 4.19% finance from Commonwealth bank today. Probably cheaper to own a German car than be a smoker nowadays.
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About a year ago I recall seeing the I20 for $14,990 DA with free auto, I think the 5dr was a grand more.

Even at these prices, they must be making money. They spend a mint on advertising and sponsorship as well.

Most of their models are sold in several dozen countries - must be cheap to produce when you are pumping them out in the millions.
They're getting back into the Aussie awd rally championship too. Despite all the other brands leaving it a few years ago and taking up the fwd rally versions of the smaller models.
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The i30 is missing a lot of the expensive tech that say something that like a Mazda3 has. Old port injection and torsion bar rear suspension compared to the direct injected engine and multi link rear of the Mazda3.

Cars are getting bloody cheap though, Volkswagen announced their MY16 updates today. Big value increases across the range. Mate scored 4.19% finance from Commonwealth bank today. Probably cheaper to own a German car than be a smoker nowadays.
Not wrong there. I took a second glance at the Polo add when they said the price was 17 something drive away.

I think the buying public don't care for specific technical differences between brands. Gadgets, low price and safety seem to be a successful combo looking at the success of the I30.
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No wonder. They hammer the advertising big time....

Good for them
Haven't seen any figures recently but last year or the year before, Hyundai were spending nearly 3times than Ford PER car on advertising, Holden was spending double fords. BMW was by far spending the most with nearly 2k a car or something. That's gotta eat into profits
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hyundai has been pushing the envelope to win sales for a while now, you could see it a mile off the company was going to be at the top of the heap for sales in the not too distant future.
The other car companies are really going to have to step up their game if they want to keep a slice of the sales pie.
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http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/g...17-1mktri.html

This is funny read......600million spent to advertise cars on Aus this year. Holden has a controversial add with a dad lining up children's toys in the driveway and racing up n down......
Ford has an add in India where their wives are shown tied up in the boot, suggesting your leaving your troubles behind.....
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Kia just got 2nd to Porsche in JD Powers initial quality survey. Hyundai was 4th, Toyota 10th, and Volkswagen nearly all the way down the bottom with Fiat. As Jaguar was 3rd, Kia and Hyundai are the top two non-premium brands. The South Koreans are nailing it because they are actually trying while many of the established brands seem to have given up. They can only ride the reputation wave so long.
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Not as bad as Honda thou, down 70% !!!!
The article says, Honda up 70%.
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Might have a bit to do with the massive price cuts on the i30. 3out of 4 were cut price sales at around 7k cheaper then normal at just under 20k. How on earth are they selling any i20s...or are they just free.
I get a funny feeling they’re giving the customers what they want.
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Dam right they are....that's like a 30% price reduction.
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5500 Hyundai I30s plus its sedan version, Elantra with 689. Its a massage result. Doesn't even include its sister the Kia Cerato.

I'm surprised with all small these 4 cylinders sales, where are they all? Where I live all new cars are basically dual cabs or Commodores.
My next door neighbour bought home a new Sonata Premium 2.0 GDi Turbo in Remington Red last Saturday.

I checked it out on Sunday and was gobsmack at all the whistles and bells.

$42K with heated and ventilated seats and a panoramic glass sunroof just to name a couple of things.

He’s taken the Commodore out of his double garage and parked it on the street so he can park the Hyundai next to his E Class Merc.

Talk about the changing of the guard.
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It does to !! Where are my bloody glasses.......
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Who is buying all the Barinas and Captivas? People without internet or a smart phone?
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Captivas are not too bad, first series got a bad rap but series 2 doesn't drive too bad. Better than the CRV or old Outlander in my opinion. In the end money talks and for many people this is the only way to get a new 7 seater under 30 grand.
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Captiva - it's the same as a territory but $5k cheaper!!!!

It's not, but that's what the bloody public think
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Kia just got 2nd to Porsche in JD Powers initial quality survey. Hyundai was 4th, Toyota 10th, and Volkswagen nearly all the way down the bottom with Fiat. As Jaguar was 3rd, Kia and Hyundai are the top two non-premium brands. The South Koreans are nailing it because they are actually trying while many of the established brands seem to have given up. They can only ride the reputation wave so long.
Initial quality for first 90 days is one thing and dependability study after 3 years of ownership is another.
http://autos.jdpower.com/ratings/dependability.htm
http://autos.jdpower.com/content/stu...dy-results.htm
Notice how many Kia / Hyundais feature highly in dependability study ?
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http://autos.jdpower.com/ratings/dependability.htm
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Notice how many Kia / Hyundais feature highly in dependability study ?
From their press release.

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Captivas are not too bad, first series got a bad rap but series 2 doesn't drive too bad. Better than the CRV or old Outlander in my opinion. In the end money talks and for many people this is the only way to get a new 7 seater under 30 grand.
7 seater for midgets. It's virtually in the RAV4 category, it's just tried to pretend it was a Territory alternative for years and a lot of people have fallen for it. Shorter wheelbase, narrower inside, smaller luggage capacity.

Then there's the driving experience ....
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From their press release.
UK Reliability index is a better reflection of what makes we actually get here and is the warranty and repair industry's actual experience rather than just customer impression:

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UK Reliability index is a better reflection of what makes we actually get here and is the warranty and repair industry's actual experience rather than just customer impression:

http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer

Are the Europeans getting their Fords from Thailand (I know ranger comes from South Africa).
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http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer
I don't know if that is better out not,
Obviously a poverty pack simple car is going to fare better than a complex luxury car,
it appears cost comes across more as a deciding factor for the score in the UK assessments.
Personally I like the customer long term view on the cars performance.
Although 3 years is not very long, but it's better than 6 months which is ridiculous.
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Are the Europeans getting their Fords from Thailand (I know ranger comes from South Africa).
I know that a lot of the Hondas are produced there.
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I don't watch TV or listen to radio, so I miss all the car ads. Still nearly went an i30. Had everything I wanted, on paper. Found I couldn't stretch my legs out in it. Ended up being most cars. Fiesta and focus were more expensive and they were barebones. In the end i just wanted something to fit in comfortably.
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I don't watch TV or listen to radio, so I miss all the car ads. Still nearly went an i30. Had everything I wanted, on paper. Found I couldn't stretch my legs out in it. Ended up being most cars. Fiesta and focus were more expensive and they were barebones. In the end i just wanted something to fit in comfortably.
Got a High Undies i30 once as a rental instead of the standard yaris or corolla. Pulled out of the rental lot, expecting big throttle action with no movement, but shredded the front tyres in first gear, something the corolla or yaris would only manage to do on an ice skating ring. Was pleasantly suprised, steered and felt quicker and better than anything in Toyota's range. The i30 electronic steering even had 3 modes of operation, on a base model....
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I don't know anyone who owns a Hyundai.
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