Auction Immaculate HO3

[ozrunner]

So far $415,000.

Once owned by cricketer Jeff Thompson.

https://www.lloydsonline.com.au/LotD...=5&lid=1434477

[Crazy Dazz]

Interesting that it's a K code engine. I wonder how many were ordered with the hand-built option?

[falconhell74]

drool..........

damn if only , o well i'll keep dreaming.

[blackf6]

Meh. Not paying that much.

[HO 3]

And I bet they are all real bids too.

Cheers Mick

[BLU-220]

Originally Posted by blackf6

Meh. Not paying that much.

Even with rips in the front seat

[1970galaxie]

It's not a K code. It's a H code.

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

Interesting that it's a K code engine. I wonder how many were ordered with the hand-built option?

So I gather the K just means it was a 351? Presumably the Blocks were stamped before being built??

So was the "H" all HO Engines?
Was there anything to distinguish those that has been through the extra QC/"blueprint" process??

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

So I gather the K just means it was a 351? Presumably the Blocks were stamped before being built??

So was the "H" all HO Engines?
Was there anything to distinguish those that has been through the extra QC/"blueprint" process??

Where are you getting K from, are you cooked kent??

[HO 3]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

So I gather the K just means it was a 351? Presumably the Blocks were stamped before being built??

So was the "H" all HO Engines?
Was there anything to distinguish those that has been through the extra QC/"blueprint" process??

In XYs H on the compliance plate designates the factory mechanical cam HO spec motor along with the necessary support ancillaries. The revised clearance QC motors were supplied to dealers seperate from the cars to help with reliability so they could finish the 1971 Bathurst race.

Cheers Mick

[Bushbasher]

I read somewhere that you could order a HO from the factory with a QC motor as an option. An extra $380-ish comes to mind , but I'm happy to be corrected.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Bushbasher

I read somewhere that you could order a HO from the factory with a QC motor as an option. An extra $380-ish comes to mind , but I'm happy to be corrected.

From what I can recall it was $250.

Can't remember if there was a QC painted onto the engine somewhere, or a tag to identify them though.

[HO 3]

Yeah I think it appeared in literature that the Q.C. motor could be ordered as a $250 option. More than likely this is a lost in translation scenario and the $250 was in reality the nominal amount dealers payed to be supplied with a Q.C. engine for the Bathurst race.
I think the Q.C. memos and accompanying paperwork from April and May 1971 was published in one of the muscle car mags a few years back? For the benefit of those that have not seen it in a nut shell Fords Special Vehicle Manager Al Turner made a request for 20-25 Q.C. engines to be built at the Geelong Engine Plant. Q.C. engine specification were to be coordinated by Special Vehicles and referred to as Q.C.-U.S. Audit Engines. This direct quote probably better explains the purpose of these engines.

"Recently the Managing Director (Al Turner) requested that a special build of GTHO engines be conducted to enable dealers to be more competitive than in the past at the Bathurst 500 race. The basic aim of this programme is not only to ensure that they are competitive but to provide them with an engine that would have greater durability than they are capable of producing themselves."

It is almost a standing joke in the GT community when at times it seems like every second HO3 owner and his dog claims to have a matching number QC motor in their car.

Cheers Mick

[Bushbasher]

.... and corrected we stand....

[arronm]

That is an awesome example of a truly legendary car. So great not to be modified or restored.

[HO 3]

Originally Posted by arronm

That is an awesome example of a truly legendary car. So great not to be modified or restored.

What makes you think the car hasn't been restored?

Cheers Mick

[arronm]

Read the description, it suggests all original..

[zoesgift]

Originally Posted by HO 3

Yeah I think it appeared in literature that the Q.C. motor could be ordered as a $250 option. More than likely this is a lost in translation scenario and the $250 was in reality the nominal amount dealers payed to be supplied with a Q.C. engine for the Bathurst race.
I think the Q.C. memos and accompanying paperwork from April and May 1971 was published in one of the muscle car mags a few years back? For the benefit of those that have not seen it in a nut shell Fords Special Vehicle Manager Al Turner made a request for 20-25 Q.C. engines to be built at the Geelong Engine Plant. Q.C. engine specification were to be coordinated by Special Vehicles and referred to as Q.C.-U.S. Audit Engines. This direct quote probably better explains the purpose of these engines.

"Recently the Managing Director (Al Turner) requested that a special build of GTHO engines be conducted to enable dealers to be more competitive than in the past at the Bathurst 500 race. The basic aim of this programme is not only to ensure that they are competitive but to provide them with an engine that would have greater durability than they are capable of producing themselves."

It is almost a standing joke in the GT community when at times it seems like every second HO3 owner and his dog claims to have a matching number QC motor in their car.

Cheers Mick

lol Mick! we all know what QC stands for in phase 3 world!

[HO 3]

Originally Posted by arronm

Read the description, it suggests all original..

Ok then, I used my eyes and looked at the pretty pictures instead!

Cheers Mick

[HO 3]

Originally Posted by zoesgift

lol Mick! we all know what QC stands for in phase 3 world!

Come to think of it in this current market I am surprised we haven't seen that old QC chestnut trotted out in an attempt to extract more money from buyers!

Cheers Mick

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by HO 3

It is almost a standing joke in the GT community when at times it seems like every second HO3 owner and his dog claims to have a matching number QC motor in their car.

I guess such a claim would come down to having the original order documentation to prove it.
Or a letter from Ford, if such records were kept.

[HO 3]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

I guess such a claim would come down to having the original order documentation to prove it.
Or a letter from Ford, if such records were kept.

Also as the QC motors were built seperate to the cars matching numbers could actually be a bit awkward. The Baldwin Ford race car still retains its supplied QC motor.

Cheers Mick

[zoesgift]

mick where did it get to price wise do you know?

[HO 3]

Originally Posted by zoesgift

mick where did it get to price wise do you know?

The above car is currently bid to 415k..............the online auction does not finish until June sometime. The auction house is predicting a 1 mill price tag..........just a tad ambitious imho.

Cheers Mick

[zoesgift]

ok for some reason I thought it had finished! agreed it will not pull 1 million and nor should most of the phase 3s out there imho

[arronm]

Won't get over 600. Just imagine how many cars and bikes that money buys you.

The big money has gone from those cars. Anyone under 40 wouldn't care less. And under 30 wouldn't even know what it is.

But we will see

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by arronm

Won't get over 600. Just imagine how many cars and bikes that money buys you.

The big money has gone from those cars. Anyone under 40 wouldn't care less. And under 30 wouldn't even know what it is.

But we will see

Still plenty of people 40+ that are cashed up...

[arronm]

True over 50s know these cars

A 40 year old got their license in 1995. To them a 1971 XY is just an old rust bucket.

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by HO 3

Also as the QC motors were built seperate to the cars

So you're saying the guy with the flea-bitten XA PV, who claims his crusty old Clevo is actually a "rare genuine HO race-engine"
could actually be telling the truth?

Might explain the "Bathurst Landau"s

[falconhell74]

Originally Posted by arronm

True over 50s know these cars

A 40 year old got their license in 1995. To them a 1971 XY is just an old rust bucket.

Not all of us mate I had a wall of "old rust bucket falcon posters " growing up and dreaming of the elusive Phase 3