Parents with Prams

Genghis · 30-04-2006, 05:03 PM

OK, without this turning into an all in brawl, what are your thoughts on 'Parents with Prams' parking at shopping centres?

Some of my thoughts:

I never park in Disabled or Emergency Services spaces, because they are a legal and just requirement.

Centre Management provide PwP spaces as a convenience and as I don't see them as a legal entitlement I park in them.

I don't have any children and I don't think people with kids are disabled or disadvantaged in any way. However, I believe some parents may disagree with me.

RG · 30-04-2006, 05:06 PM

It is a little hard for people to get their kids and other assorted paraphernalia out of their cars. And wouldn't you prefer that they have wider parks to lessen the risk of their car door hitting the side of your pride and joy.

AU2PWR · 30-04-2006, 05:06 PM

i park in the PwP Spaces , there not governed by law ,

fiery · 30-04-2006, 05:12 PM

I don't think anyone should park in them,other than the people it is intended for. They are there for people with kids and prams.

ronwest · 30-04-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Genghis

I don't have any children and I don't think people with kids are disabled or disadvantaged in any way.

as you say, you don't have any children. When you have some, your views will change.

Until then enjoy the benefits of shopping unencumbered.

**Falcon Coupe** · 30-04-2006, 05:16 PM

Pretty self centered attitude to park there with no reason, mum's with kids need the larger parking space, i park as far away form all cars as i can, a small walk beats a scratch.

**thefargo** · 30-04-2006, 05:17 PM

As I wont park next to a car with a baby seat I think PwP are a good idea. Let them bash each others body work as they carefully strap in junior. I don't necessarily think they need be as close to the shopping centre doors as they tend to be, after all prams etc have wheels.

347Stroker · 30-04-2006, 05:17 PM

You would have to be a heartless mug to park in them, and obviously have no kids, or understand how hard it is to get kids etc in and out of cars, and they are close to the doors for the safety of parents with kids not walking the car parks.
Try and load your shopping into a car with 2 kids winging...you can get the pram up between the cars in the larger spots.
I bet you would be the first to cry if it was your kid run over in the shopping centre carpark because you took your eyes off them for 1 second (and those with kids will tell you thats all it takes)
Leave them for the parents that need them.

falcon91 · 30-04-2006, 05:17 PM

Considering they are normally wider than standard spots, therefore room for the mother (Or father I guess) to enable strollers and such to be unfolded and also for the toddlers not to have to walk through lanes of traffic. I think there a good idea, even if I don't have kids. I tend to park in a slot all by myself away from others anyway! (However, people still park around me, Go figure)

dansedgli · 30-04-2006, 05:19 PM

What a selfish bunch some of you guys are.

What ever happened to people having good manners.

347Stroker · 30-04-2006, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dansedgli

What a selfish bunch some of you guys are.

What ever happened to people having good manners.

Well said mate, exactly right.

94Mustang · 30-04-2006, 05:24 PM

My greatest fear when I go shopping with the kids is them getting knocked down in the car park. Drivers not looking, tight spaces, people backing out. I'm all for giving parents all the breaks they can.

Genghis · 30-04-2006, 05:25 PM

As far a dings and scratches go, Don't get me wrong.

I don't park in them with the Falcon. Heaven forbid!!
But the wife's about town car is another story.

In regards to wider spaces. I'm not convinced they are wider than the average car space in most cases.

Smoke Pursuit · 30-04-2006, 05:25 PM

I never park in one of these parks for a few reasons.

1) Dont want dints and they are there for a reasons so parents can actually access the rear doors of their car.

2) I like to park as far away as possible.

3) I dont need some angry parent doing something bad to my car because they think im a *****.

My neighbour however who is 40 years old and cant have kids parks in them, we actually had this conversation not long ago where she thought it was her right to do so, I totally disagree with her but then again im pretty easy going..

347Stroker · 30-04-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Genghis

As far a dings and scratches go, Don't get me wrong.

I don't park in them with the Falcon. Heaven forbid!!
But the wife's about town car is another story.

In regards to wider spaces. I'm not convinced they are wider than the average car space in most cases.

Mate with one post to your name, its a pretty hot topic to begin with....wont earn much respect from some here with that sort of attitude...
I bet it changes when you have kids.

S3SR · 30-04-2006, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenEL

It is a little hard for people to get their kids and other assorted paraphernalia out of their cars. And wouldn't you prefer that they have wider parks to lessen the risk of their car door hitting the side of your pride and joy.

too late

Outbackjack · 30-04-2006, 05:36 PM

Using these parks when you dont have kids just shows how self centred and arrogant people can be. They would rather parents manouver prams through busy car parks than they put themselves out by having to walk a little further. Lazy little sh1ts.

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Dean C · 30-04-2006, 05:38 PM

Slightly of the topic here but dont you hate it when you make the effort to park far waway from any other car then someone decides to park right near you.

deesun · 30-04-2006, 05:40 PM

Send this man to the shops every day for a month or 3 with 2 kids under 5. You obviously have no kids even if you hadn't said so in your post. And as this is supposedly your 1st post you must be a saddist.

LUXO_8 · 30-04-2006, 05:41 PM

i had to park in one once, as there were ABSOLUTLEY no other parks to park in... man i felt guilty lol...
normally dont park in them as they're there for a reason...

RACINGdork · 30-04-2006, 05:42 PM

they are there for a reason-parents with prams. not for the lazy people who cbf finding another spot.

Genghis · 30-04-2006, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 347Stroker

Mate with one post to your name, its a pretty hot topic to begin with....wont earn much respect from some here with that sort of attitude...
I bet it changes when you have kids.

Unfortunately, we tried to have kids and found we couldn't. I'm not trying to play the sympathy card at all and that's for another time and place.

Hey I'm not after enemies either. Let's put it into perspective. I'm not a murderer or rapist or anything, I park in space that two years ago I could park in without getting treated as some sort of heartless monster.

BTW, what is post numbers got to do with anything. It doesn't make me any less of a forum member?!

fiery · 30-04-2006, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Genghis

In regards to wider spaces. I'm not convinced they are wider than the average car space in most cases.

Measure it.. I can assure you that they would be at least 99% of the time wider.

Josh_XC · 30-04-2006, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 347Stroker

Mate with one post to your name, its a pretty hot topic to begin with....wont earn much respect from some here with that sort of attitude...
I bet it changes when you have kids.

Yeh exactly not the best way to start on a forum mate, about the spaces even if they aint wider (which i think they are) they are closer to the venue or shopping mall for the parents convience, i have no respect for people that dont think off others.

I have no kids/ thanx god lol to young, but yeh even i can see these parks are much used and very useful for parents.

Bucknaked · 30-04-2006, 05:47 PM

Those parking spaces are wider for a reason. And then you get idiots who have no baby seats in the cars who think it is ok to park their car there. Those are the same people who complain when their car gets scratched. usually by a parent with a pram who is forced to park in standard parking because some idiot in a ute has parked in the PWP parking. Regarless of whether it is law or not, the parking is there for a reason.

Usually these parks are close to the entrance of a shopping centre. If you think its cool to let a female with a dozen kids in tow with Prams and the shopping walk to the furtherest park in the car park, because you don't like her getting it so easy, then theres a serious problem. Show a little respect. Theres only ever a few of these alotted car parking spaces. Leave them vacant for the people there were intended for. Its not that hard.

fiery · 30-04-2006, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Genghis

BTW, what is post numbers got to do with anything. It doesn't make me any less of a forum member?!

sorry I know this is off topic... and I know I will be reminded as such..
but, Post Counts really mean diddly squat in the light of day.
Mine has gone from just over 2000 this week to 0, got to around 60 posts in and then it flew up 20,000.. now back to what it is...

Don't anyone hassle someone just because of Post Count ..
If you read what Genghis said in his opening post =

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without this turning into an all in brawl, what are your thoughts

Opinions people... only opinions without the narky stuff eh

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Black XR6 · 30-04-2006, 05:49 PM

Without flying off the handle and getting banned. I think the attitude that because they are not legally goverened you park in them is ignorant and shows you dont give a crap.

Think, why would wider than normal parking spaces exist for parents with prams. Would it be so a mother or father can get the pram down the side of the car and not have to have the pram behind the car possibly in the lane of traffic? What happens when a parent takes their kid in and does some shopping. They come out with a bunch of stuff in bags etc. You expect them to just leave the kid wherever whilst they load the car and then get the kid out etc.

I tell ya, If I see anybody park in one without a pram Ill give em a serve direct from brain to mouth with no pause in between.

Josh_XC · 30-04-2006, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Black XR6

I tell ya, If I see anybody park in one without a pram Ill give em a serve direct from brain to mouth with no pause in between.

yeh i totally agree.

I know mate that you didnt want a brawl to come out of this but stupidity like parking in the pram parking with no kids is just plain rude and ignorant.

wulos · 30-04-2006, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Genghis

As far a dings and scratches go, Don't get me wrong.

I don't park in them with the Falcon. Heaven forbid!!
But the wife's about town car is another story.

In regards to wider spaces. I'm not convinced they are wider than the average car space in most cases.

So basically you are saying you have more respect for your falcon then for parents with kids.
I take it you have never had the misfortune? of having to place a kid into a child seat in the rear of a car, in driving rain, with some inconsiderate parked hard up against the side of the car after having been unable to locate a PwP space, as they were taken up by persons such as yourself.
Perhaps one day you will be so lucky as endure this funfilled act in your pride and joy falcon, but then again you will prob NEVER allow a kidseat in the back of it anyway. With a bit of luck there will be noone about to help push either the pram or the shopping trolley for you.
The whole disabled / disadvantaged argument, comes down to being understanding of the extra challenges being a parent provides.
You are correct in saying that a lot of them are not really that much wider then a normal parking space.
Time to take a Viagra (long & hard) look at yourself (same goes for SR_AU) and work out where your priorities in life 'SHOULD' actually lay.

Genghis · 30-04-2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wulos

So basically you are saying you have more respect for your falcon then for parents with kids.
I take it you have never had the misfortune? of having to place a kid into a child seat in the rear of a car, in driving rain.
Perhaps one day you will be so lucky as endure this funfilled act in your pride and joy falcon, but then again you will prob NEVER allow a kidseat in the back of it anyway.
The whole disabled / disadvantaged argument, comes down to being understanding of the extra challenges being a parent provides.
You are correct in saying that a lot of them are not really that much wider then a normal parking space.
Time to take a Viagra (long & hard) look at yourself (same goes for SR_AU) and work out where your priorities in life 'SHOULD' actually lay.

Please refer to my last post. I would like to 'work out my priorities' as it were, but my car will have to remain my 'baby'. Unfortunately or otherwise.