Who are the hoons?

[Ralliart]

Suburbs with Most Hoons Caught








First-time drivers are the state's biggest hoons, according to new statistics released by Victoria Police.

Since anti-hoon laws came into effect in July last year, police have seized 1014 vehicles, or 35 per week - up from about 10 per week in the first month.

Probationary licence holders have committed half (50.5 per cent) of the offences - which can include burnouts, fishtails or drag racing - with 150 18-year-olds caught breaking the laws.

The biggest offenders are males aged 18 to 21, with females making up just one per cent of Victorian hoons collared by police.

Under the laws, vehicles driven by first-time offenders can be held by police for 48 hours. Drivers caught breaking the laws a second time can lose their cars for three months, while a third offence within three years can result in police permanently confiscating a hoon's car.

Assistant Commissioner for Traffic, Noel Ashby, said the risks taken by many young, male drivers was reflected in Victoria's road toll.

"The legislation really targets young male drivers, who are over-represented in our road trauma and fatality statistics," he said.

"This age group is more willing to take dangerous risks - risks to themselves and to others."

Today's statistics also reveal that a majority of Victoria's hoons reside in Melbourne's south-east and western suburbs, with 22 hoons calling Greater Dandenong home.

Other hoon hot spots included Frankston, St Albans, Hoppers Crossing, Mill Park, Ballarat and Craigieburn.

However, Mr Ashby pointed out that most offenders left their own suburbs to break road laws.

"Many of the hoon offences occurred in areas away from the driver's residence," he said.

Mr Ashby said the anti-hoons measures were working as a deterrent as only a small percentage of offences were committed by people who had been charged previously.

"We think it is (a deterrent) and that's because out of 1014 cars we only have a recidivism rate of about two per cent , which is significantly lower than we thought," Mr Ashby told theage.com.au.

"We've certainly seized more cars than we anticipated but the recidivism has been lower than expected."

"We know the impounding of cars is taken particularly (hard) by the young people, particularly the young males," he said.

theage.com.au
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and i wonder why i hate my suburb
i can't belive my suburb is top of the list, god dam Dandenong

[Allen]

only 15 in craigieburn... I would have expected many more from the things I see on a daily basis...

The reason for such a low number, is that a police car is a very rare sight around here...

EDIT - Another interesting stat, is that 50.5% of hoons were P-platers... naturally p-platers do not make up 50% of the motoring public, which tells me that non p-platers have been "hooning" more than p platers...

[kyro_02]

I thought i'd never see the day where full licensed drivers are the other half of the hoons , they're good drivers. :P

[Ford_V8]

Don't you know that P platers emit a magnetic forcefield to all those around them which causes them to act erratically. P platers ARE responsible for EVERYTHING, including taxes, bad weather and PMS.

[Casper]

Originally Posted by fairlane_ghia

EDIT - Another interesting stat, is that 50.5% of hoons were P-platers... naturally p-platers do not make up 50% of the motoring public, which tells me that non p-platers have been "hooning" more than p platers...

Huh??
If P Platers make up less than 50% of the motoring public... (lets say 20%) and yet are responsible for 50.5% of the hoons.. that would mean that P Platers are grossly OVER REPRESENTED in the "hoons are us" category. They are, effectively, 20% of the driving population doing 50% of the "hooning".

Non P Platers (80%+) are doing only 49.5% of the "hooning".

[Walkinshaw]

best way to reduce P plate infringements. Don't have P plates

[Allen]

whoops, yeah your correct :P

I shouldn't post when hungry...

[havoc19]

More speed cameras is the answer hahahah

[Sorted]

1014, OMG................. that would of ruined a few peoples lifes..........

LOL Noble Park has its own Hoon Stats

BUT after everyone learns they will have to decide on another reason to take peoples cars off them.

Like going over 10klms over the Speed Limit............

Personally they should have to have Video Proof before they can take some one's car off them.........

[holmsy]

i cant remember if my mates car ended up getting taken or not but he accidentally did 180 spin in the wet and the cops claimed he did like 3 full rotations or something.

[Kil4Collingwood]

I'd like to see a CLEARLY defined list of exactly what constitutes "hoon" driving fair enough doing burnouts and drag racing on public streets but as it stands it is upto a police officers discretion I have a friend with a VN SS he was on an incline in the wet stopped at lights when he took off (not hard I was in the car with him) had a little wheelspin and the **** stepped out a little unmarked cop car couple of cars back pulls him over goes over the car couldn't find anything to defect him for so he threatened to impound his car under hoon laws but was "good enough" to let him off with a warning make no mistake this state is a nanny state rapidly approaching a police state.

[Conrad]

The other 49.5% was us L platers!

L plater hoons 4 life

(I live in NSW not VIC so im not counted in that little study unfortunately)

[AU2PWR]

Hmm , without starting a Riot , Its not all P-Platers that are hoons , just the Commonwhre and Bitsamissing drivers that give us a Bad Name ...

keep the crazy stuff for the Skid Pan and the Track

[LTDHO]

Originally Posted by Ralliart

Assistant Commissioner for Traffic, Noel Ashby, said the risks taken by many young, male drivers was reflected in Victoria's road toll.

Ha ha

Classic quote, I love it.

So how many 18-21 have died this year?

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by AU2PWR

Hmm , without starting a Riot , Its not all P-Platers that are hoons , just the Commonwhre and Bitsamissing drivers that give us a Bad Name ...

Hoons regardless of what they drive, give us ALL a bad name. (Yes even Ford drivers can be d***heads too) I would LMAO at anyone that thinks Ford, Toyota, Nissan drivers etc are all little angels.

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by Casper

Huh??
If P Platers make up less than 50% of the motoring public... (lets say 20%) and yet are responsible for 50.5% of the hoons.. that would mean that P Platers are grossly OVER REPRESENTED in the "hoons are us" category. They are, effectively, 20% of the driving population doing 50% of the "hooning".

Non P Platers (80%+) are doing only 49.5% of the "hooning".

LOL, math's isnt on the hoon curriculum obviously...

[Jet-Star]

We had four over the last weekend gone and 3 the weekend before that in/around our crappy town (Wonthaggi)... I was actually in a car with a mate when he got his impounded, the local TOGy was the one that told us how many had been done latelyaround our area, 2 of which were bike riders...

[uranium_death]

You are aware that drivers over 65 constitute the largest age group who have accidents on the road.
It's just that they don't speed and act like complete fools.

I think if a P driver is caught hooning on purpose and evidence suggests undoubtedly that they are hooning, their car should be sold with all the money going towards the TAC, who look after victims of road trauma.

Their probationary license should then be torn up with a road suspension of 1 year. From there, they must undertake their learners permit and drive as a learner driver for a minimum of 2 years and must log 120 official hours, including 20 of those with a driving instructor.

If they lose their job as a result, stiff cheddar. The rules are simple and easy to follow. A car is a dangerous piece of machinery, especially when driven erratically and aggressively. If you don't like those rules, buy a camel.

[[Tonko]]

werent like 50% of all cars confiscated commodores?



i read that in the herald sun so its probably BS

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

So how many 18-21 have died this year?

Too many....

[Scott]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

Ha ha

Classic quote, I love it.

So how many 18-21 have died this year?

Well it's not this year, but.....

In 2005, 30% of drivers killed were aged between 18 and 25 years. And yet, this age group only represents 14% of Victorian licence holders.

Of the 50 young drivers killed in 2005:

• 72% were males,
• 58% were killed on country roads,
• 70% were killed in single vehicle crashes,
• 68% were involved in crashes that occurred during high alcohol times,
• the days when fatal crashes were most frequent were Friday (22%) and Saturday (22%),
• 54% of crashes occurred between the hours of 8pm and 6am, and
• 54% of deaths occurred on 100km/h and 110km/h signposted roads.

[Scott]

As for Older Drivers (65+), they are only just worse than the 18-25 group.

Drivers aged 65 years or over have a higher risk (per distance travelled) of being killed in a crash than any other age group.

In 2005, 23 older drivers were killed. Of these deaths:

• 78% were male,
• 39% were involved in adjacent intersection crashes,
• 74% were involved in multiple vehicle crashes,
• 52% occurred on country roads,
• 87% occurred during low alcohol times,
• most occurred during daylight hours, and
• 43% occurred on roads signposted 100km/h or more.

[Ford_Boy]

i used to complain about the restriction laws but at the risk of being flamed, i'm bit of a rev head. i know its wrong and my folkes clip me about it but i do speed. i'm glad i waited till i was nearly 17 till i got my l's because now i am abit more mature and i can resist doing stupid stuff and i wouldnt do a burnout because i know the damage it can do to the car, people and yourself. it's best i have to wait until i'm on my full licence untill i get a v8 because i know deep down i wouldnt be able to resist the temptation. i think it's just a teenager thing. we have this feeling of finially being able to enjoy life but alot of people don't realise they are risking their lives doing dangerous stunts. i'm by no means a crazy driver but i know i can improve.

[Scott]

2006 Fatality Details 18-25. Weird that 60% of Young Driver Fatalities occur on a straight road.

It's also interesting is that 18-25 makes up 14% of Road Users but account for 30% of all Passengers Killed. (other age data not shown here, couldn't be stuffed).

Date range:
From 01/01/2006
To 30/12/2006

Day(s) of the week:

Mon 6
Tue 8
Wed 7
Thu 4
Fri 13
Sat 11
Sun 10

Hour of the day:

00:00-01:59 3
02:00-03:59 9
04:00-05:59 3
06:00-07:59 3
08:00-09:59 3
10:00-11:59 4
12:00-13:59 2
14:00-15:59 8
16:00-17:59 7
18:00-19:59 5
20:00-21:59 6
22:00-23:59 6
Unknown 0

Person details

Injury severity:
Fatalities 59
Gender:Female 16
Male 43
Unknown 0

Age range:

18 to 20 26
21 to 25 33

Road user:

Driver 34
Motorcyclist 10
Passenger 15

Crash details Location:

Melbourne 29
Rural Vic 30
Unknown 0

Type:

Pedestrian 0
Adjacent direction 5
Opposing direction 8
Same direction 3
Manoeuvring 0
Overtaking 1
On Road 1
Run off a straight road 35
Run off road on a curve 6
Passenger/misc 0
Unknown 0

[MAFIA]

Hoons ... What a dumb name cops made up! :

And the defination for the word HOONS = *Wreckless police drivers behind the wheel of a Hi performance car *Also dangerous and unexperience P plate and Police driver behind the wheel of a unsafe Commodore. :nutsycuck

[Rollin]

NATIONAL ROAD DEATHS DOWN SLIGHTLY IN 2006

Tuesday, 16 January 2007

The Minister for Local Government, Territories and Roads, Jim Lloyd, today said that the latest road death figures reflected a slight improvement in national trends, though some jurisdictions were achieving much better results than others.

Statistics released by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) show that 152 people died on Australia’s roads in December, bringing the total number of deaths in 2006 to 1,605.

Mr Lloyd said that the Christmas-New Year toll of 62 was horrendous and urged all motorists to take care on the roads for the rest of the holiday season.

hxxp://www.tonyabbott.com.au/news/Article.aspx?ID=1315

Smoking is the largest preventable cause of death and disease in Australia. There is a tobacco-related death about every 28 minutes in Australia, adding up to more than 50 deaths each day. In 1998, 19019 deaths were caused by tobacco use.

hxxp://www.quitnow.info.au/internet/...file/graph.pdf

So since we are all so anti-hooning here, because of course hooning kills 1600 people per year (plus of course non-fatal injuries) and they are preventable, senseless deaths, I'm also expecting nobody on here smokes?

Smoking kills 19,000 people per year (not of course, including people who get cancer from smoking/being around smokers and breathing second hand smoke etc) and they are also senseless, preventable deaths.

So why is smoking still legal and hooning attracts such Massive penalties, often much in excess of the severity of the crime?

One of the guys at work has an old Val, stock as a rock manual with a 245 up front, dropped the clutch off a set of lights late one night and peeled a single 195/65/15 for about 4m (because thats all his particular POS can manage) and a D car pulled him over and took the car for 48 hours.

Overkill? I reckon.

Now while I'm definately not condoning "hooning", it doesn't really make sense to me, the differing importance placed on smoking deaths and road deaths, considering the relative numbers of people killed each year.

[GTpilot]

My best mate was one of the 70 killed in 1996. He was 22, minding his own business driving to work one morning, NOT speeding OR "hooning", An oncoming driver fell a sleep at the wheel after working a double shift overnight and veered onto his side of the road.

I wonder just how many others included in those stats were not at fault.

[Scott]

^^ Well, I guess all of the passengers and most pedestrians were not at fault. Sorry to hear about your mate, the stats don't suggest anyone was doing much wrong at all, just that young people are massively over represented in road fatalities.

[r8response]

Originally Posted by Rollin

So why is smoking still legal and hooning attracts such Massive penalties, often much in excess of the severity of the crime?

They're Taxable

[Hunter]

The reason old people aren't targetted for their poor behaviour is,

1) They can vote. 17 year olds can't.

2) Old people have nothing better to do with their time than whinge about other people (or just anything in general really). Squeaky wheel gets the oil (or something). Young people are too busy doing stupid things or living their life to bother whinging as much (that and their body still functions reasonably well so they can actually do stuff).

By the way, I wonder how many of those young people killed were killed by 65+ year old people...

Reminds me of the old line 'Hasn't had an accident in 50 years of driving but caused hundreds'...