Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-10-2010, 07:56 PM   #1
zdcol71
zdcol71
 
zdcol71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: brisbane
Posts: 1,095
Default Enthusiast?? Hoon??

Very interested to find some answers to the following 2 questions.
It would be nice to put it in poll form, but rather, answer these....
Don't think too hard about it, or take too much time reading everyone elses reponses...just a couple of lines on each, don't need to analyse it too much.


1) What makes "me" a performance/modified car enthusiast?
(Answer)
1
2

2) What makes "him" a hoon?
(Answer)
1
2

__________________
: 30 years later
zdcol71 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-10-2010, 07:59 PM   #2
GasoLane
Former BTIKD
Donating Member2
 
GasoLane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Sunny Downtown Wagga Wagga. NSW.
Posts: 53,197
Default

1.. Because it's me.

2.. Because it's not me.

__________________
Dying at your job is natures way of saying that you're in the wrong line of work.
GasoLane is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-10-2010, 08:03 PM   #3
Riksta
Captain Malcolm Reynolds
 
Riksta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 3,830
Default

1. I obey road laws and don't do burnouts and drift at every opportunity.

2. He has absolute disregard for the law, does burnouts at every set of lights, and doesn't care about the safety of himself or others.
__________________
Currently: 2014 Mazda6 GT (Daily) and 1999 Mazda MX5 (Fun Car)
Previously: 2001 Ford Escape XLT; 2010 MC Mondeo; 1984 FD LTD; 2001 AU2 Falcon Forte; 2005 LS Focus Zetec; 1988 RE Colt; 1982 RB Colt; 1974 KE20 Corolla
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikked
Riksta likes VN's so much, he has the ashes of a VN in a jar on the mantle piece, a vile of VN engine oil hanging from his neck and a BT1 build plate locked up in a safe, buried under 6ft of concrete.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Day-mow
pretty much what has happened here is i trolled you. and it was fun.
Riksta is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-10-2010, 08:05 PM   #4
JC807
sucksqueezebangblow
 
JC807's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 748
Default

1. because i like cars, and know the time and place for enjoying them

2. because he spins the wheels and drives to redline every moment he is behind the wheel.
__________________
previous:-> 74 KE20 4AGTE, 04 RZN149R, 01 AE112R, 01 KR42R, 84 E30 318i, 67 MINI DELUX, 06 BF XR6T, 08 V50 T5 AWD , MY13 ISUZU D-MAX 4X4
current:-> 16 SS Sportwagon, 19 Everest BiTurbo 4WD
JC807 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-10-2010, 08:49 PM   #5
onfire
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
onfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,078
Default

The difference is the attitude towards driving a car. An enthusiast, or at least from what we're told, will respect others and the road rules. The later, the Hoon will disregard these.
__________________
FOR SALE: 2 0 0 3 F A L C O N X R 8
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...31#post5041431


onfire is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-10-2010, 08:53 PM   #6
iliov
Banned
 
iliov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Rowville
Posts: 314
Default

1. Drives a modified car and gives it a bit sometimes.

2. Drives a VN commodore with a minispool and different coloured panels..
iliov is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-10-2010, 08:56 PM   #7
TheInterceptor
Cruising...
 
TheInterceptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Perth
Posts: 3,819
Default

1. Car's (motorbikes etc..) is my passion, my hobby and i enjoy working on it, talking about it with others who have the same passion. I also enjoy a nice drive in my car because i like to sit back and enjoy a nice drive through town or somtimes to the local racetrack where i can let lose and unleash my hard work for all its worth. I respect the laws and those that i share the road with.

2. I use my car as i wish where i wish how i wish whenever i want and i dont really care whos around so long as they arent the police. I find it fun to thrash the guts out of my car and im not interested in maintaining my car because its just a car.

....roughly. Number 2 probobly cant be generalised. If its raining and i put the foot down to far or drop the clutch and the wheels temporarily lose traction, i am classed as a hoon...
__________________
FBT '98
BA XT '04
F100 4x4 '82

Subaru Outback '02
TheInterceptor is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-10-2010, 10:06 PM   #8
tyson_8238
BA diff bushes
 
tyson_8238's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: South East Brisbane
Posts: 40
Default

In QLD if Police catch you doing a hoon offence you get flagged on the system for the rest of your life as a hoon. Not worth it, Im a Police officer and a car enthusiast cant be one in the same with my job.
__________________
Not knowing is fearing...
tyson_8238 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-10-2010, 10:54 PM   #9
Mad Maxine
Regular Member
 
Mad Maxine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 250
Default

1) What makes "me" a performance/modified car enthusiast?
(Answer)
1 I obey the rules of the road and of common sense and decency to other motorists
2 I make sure my vehicle is fully insured at all times and driven with respect

2) What makes "him" a hoon?
(Answer)
1 Driving recklessly, without any care for others on the road
2 Uninsured, overconfident, inconsiderate of other road users or the effect his/her actions can have on them
__________________
Mad Maxine: Pray that she's out there...... somewhere

1977 XC GS Coupe
Mad Maxine is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 08:32 AM   #10
zdcol71
zdcol71
 
zdcol71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: brisbane
Posts: 1,095
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tyson_8238
In QLD if Police catch you doing a hoon offence you get flagged on the system for the rest of your life as a hoon. Not worth it, Im a Police officer and a car enthusiast cant be one in the same with my job.
So, interested to know then, Tyson,from a policing point of view(or actually from a policing point of law), what does make him a hoon?
__________________
: 30 years later
zdcol71 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 08:38 AM   #11
jpd80
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
jpd80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,345
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Thoughtful contributions to our community 
Default

1. Enthusiasts generally act responsibly and engage in social behavior
that promotes their interest in the wider community.

2. A "Hoon" engages in dangerous antisocial behavior that can results in the
tragic loss of life and disrepute in the community for legitimate enthusiasts.
jpd80 is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 09:05 AM   #12
ZA-289
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
ZA-289's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 2,343
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Maxine
1) What makes "me" a performance/modified car enthusiast?
(Answer)
1 I obey the rules of the road and of common sense and decency to other motorists
2 I make sure my vehicle is fully insured at all times and driven with respect

2) What makes "him" a hoon?
(Answer)
1 Driving recklessly, without any care for others on the road
2 Uninsured, overconfident, inconsiderate of other road users or the effect his/her actions can have on them
Best explination so far.
ZA-289 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 09:18 AM   #13
mrbaxr6t
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
mrbaxr6t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,505
Default

generally speaking an enthusiast is somebody who works hard and has a very nice car (likely because they havn't crashed it through stupidity, and the car has full comprehensive insurance)

a "hoon" usually has a stock or close to stock car that they believe goes like mad that they drive the wheels off until of course they stack it and due to them having no insurance it then gets strapped with multicolor panels or gets repaired with racetape as they don't have the money to repair it they cant afford insurance so how the heck they gonna repair their car properly?
__________________
Phantom, T56, leather and sunroof BAmk1 :yeees:

Holden special vehicles - for special people
mrbaxr6t is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 10:20 AM   #14
FNQracing
RAGE Engineering
 
FNQracing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 651
Default

A hoon is simply someone who partakes in anti social behavior in any car, modified or not.

An enthusiast is someone who has a love of any car, modified or not.

But as for all things, there are exceptions. Regardless of the above, you are a hoon if you have ever owned a Holden Gemini, VL Commodore or Nissan Skyline.
__________________
If it doesn't fit, use a BIGGER hammer

Last edited by FFOracing; 03-10-2010 at 10:25 AM.
FNQracing is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 10:28 AM   #15
4Vman
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
4Vman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 14,654
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FFOracing
A hoon is simply someone who partakes in anti social behavior in any car, modified or not.

An enthusiast is someone who has a love of any car, modified or not.
Probably the best definition ive read.

The same person can be 1 or the other depending on how they behave behind the wheel.

You certainly dont need to own a modified car to be either though.



__________________
335 S/C GT: The new KING of Australian made performance cars..
4Vman is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 10:42 AM   #16
ELGT4me
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,280
Smile

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Vman
Probably the best definition ive read.

The same person can be 1 or the other depending on how they behave behind the wheel.

You certainly dont need to own a modified car to be either though.
That's the best reply, I agree 100%
ELGT4me is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 01:10 PM   #17
mik
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
mik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Melb north
Posts: 12,025
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Vman
Probably the best definition ive read.

The same person can be 1 or the other depending on how they behave behind the wheel.

You certainly dont need to own a modified car to be either though.
another vote ........good post.
mik is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 01:27 PM   #18
sxckevo
Ford motor company
 
sxckevo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Victoria
Posts: 791
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FFOracing
A hoon is simply someone who partakes in anti social behavior in any car, modified or not.

An enthusiast is someone who has a love of any car, modified or not.

But as for all things, there are exceptions. Regardless of the above, you are a hoon if you have ever owned a Holden Gemini, VL Commodore or Nissan Skyline.
Excellent post!! Rep will be given when I find out how to do it lol
__________________
The proud owner of an FG XR6T in DASH
Manual, leather, and premium sound.
Currently have chrome window surrounds, chrome boot garnish, DJR lip, slightly lowered and a home made air box with a K&N pod filter.

WORK CAR: RED 1996 manual XG ute
sxckevo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 01:36 PM   #19
Sizey
Mk5 Transbulance
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,910
Default

1. Has a high powered car and appreciates it for what it is however obey road rules and will only let it loose on the track.

2. Has a high powered car and thinks its the shiz. Drags every other meathed out there and drifts and does burnouts non stop. Lets it loose wherever he likes.
__________________
DOING THE UNDO-ABLE

B series xr6 wagon
Now deceased


BF Fairlane ex taxi
Now for more fun
[/CENTER]
Sizey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 01:50 PM   #20
mrghia
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
mrghia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Tanunda S.A
Posts: 1,037
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FFOracing
Regardless of the above, you are a hoon if you have ever owned a Holden Gemini, VL Commodore or Nissan Skyline.
What sort of skyline you talking about I had one a r31 s2 sillouette manual. I didnt think i was a hoon
mrghia is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 02:01 PM   #21
flappist
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,077
Default

What is the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter?
flappist is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 02:18 PM   #22
Dezza
Parts bin special
 
Dezza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Narre Warren, Vic
Posts: 8,276
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbaxr6t
generally speaking an enthusiast is somebody who works hard and has a very nice car (likely because they havn't crashed it through stupidity, and the car has full comprehensive insurance)
I don't agree with the comprehensive insurance part. I have 3rd party on both my cars, simply because the premium for full comp on the EA is close to what the car is worth (and the AU's not worth a lot either). The fact is, when I bought the car 8 years ago it was still worth something, but despite being one of the neatest EAs around, it's still worth nothing. It doesn't change the fact it's my pride and joy and I've put a lot of time, effort and money into it.
__________________
Weekender 1964 US Falcon Futura convertible - Rangoon Red
260 Windsor V8, 4 speed manual, LHD, Electronic ignition, Mustang wheels
https://fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11470868

Daily 2014 SZII Territory diesel - basic runabout

Previous Cars 1990 EAII Fairmont Ghia - Tickford engine, 5 speed, SVO wheels, bodykit, much more
2000 AUII Fairmont - XR wheels, Ghia interior
2010 FG XR50T ute - XR8 bonnet, Streetfighter intake
Dezza is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 03:14 PM   #23
Ryan
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Newcastle, NSW
Posts: 3,926
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FFOracing
A hoon is simply someone who partakes in anti social behavior in any car, modified or not.

An enthusiast is someone who has a love of any car, modified or not.

But as for all things, there are exceptions. Regardless of the above, you are a hoon if you have ever owned a Holden Gemini, VL Commodore or Nissan Skyline.
I own a VL, but I don't consider myself a "hoon", or anyone else who knows me for that matter.

Hell I don't even bother partaking in street light drag racing, because my car would probably get beaten by a Yaris. No point.
Ryan is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 03:33 PM   #24
Stattic
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Stattic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,566
Default

1) What makes "me" a performance/modified car enthusiast?
(Answer)
1 i take pride in my car
2 whilst i like to give it a bit i dont flog my car

2) What makes "him" a hoon?
(Answer)
1 he drives 3kph over the speed limit
2 he has 2 passengers on his red p plates
__________________
Current
Blueprint 03 xr8
5 speed manual, Difilippo Quad Big Boy system, BPR CAI, BPR Custom tune, Underdrives
256rwkw

BA manual Typhoon
Fully optioned, 340rwkw@16psi (thanks Bluepower)!


The old ride....
AU Fairmont, cammed beast, R.I.P you made my p plate years bearable!
150.8rwkw courtesy BPR
Stattic is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 05:29 PM   #25
FocusLX06
Regular Member
 
FocusLX06's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Queensland, Australia
Posts: 168
Default

Someone said to me recently - I do not speed.
Is that even possible? I mean really possible? To never ever exceed the speed limit?
-------------------------
To answer the question:
1) What makes "me" a performance/modified car enthusiast?
Safety first
2) What makes "him" a hoon?
Safety second
__________________
Current car: 2022 Escape st-line - Previous Fords: 2006 Focus, 2009 FG XR6T, 2009 Focus, 2012 Focus, 2016 Territory
FocusLX06 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 05:34 PM   #26
zdcol71
zdcol71
 
zdcol71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: brisbane
Posts: 1,095
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by flappist
What is the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter?
Ones perspective.
__________________
: 30 years later
zdcol71 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 05:38 PM   #27
WMD351
Size it up
 
WMD351's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: big blue ball of mostly water
Posts: 591
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stattic
1) 2) What makes "him" a hoon?
(Answer)
1 he drives 3kph over the speed limit
2 he has 2 passengers on his red p plates
Nice. Hoon is the new black, it's getting flogged by the media/government even more then the word hero.
WMD351 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 05:56 PM   #28
zdcol71
zdcol71
 
zdcol71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: brisbane
Posts: 1,095
Default

I'm guilty, i know... I replied to Flappists' post, (I posed the question though, so I claim some licence.)
Would like to keep it to the question,guys. There is enough banter back and forth on other threads, and enough agreeing /disagreeing with other peoples opinions.
Just like to see peoples personal opinion on what makes one or the other.
__________________
: 30 years later
zdcol71 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 06:10 PM   #29
WMD351
Size it up
 
WMD351's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: big blue ball of mostly water
Posts: 591
Default

1.1 thinks first
2 gets away with it
2.1 doesn't think
2 gets caught
WMD351 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-10-2010, 06:34 PM   #30
vztrt
IWCMOGTVM Club Supporter
 
vztrt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern Suburbs Melbourne
Posts: 17,799
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: vztrt is one of the most consistent and respected contributors to AFF, I have found his contributions are most useful to discussion as well as answering members queries. 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by flappist
What is the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter?
27 years in prison.
__________________
Daniel
vztrt is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 06:39 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL