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Old 22-12-2006, 09:49 PM   #1
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Exclamation 7 Speed Cameras & 1 Booze Bus in 70kms in W.A !!!

As a christmas present to W.A. motorists, the W.A police are going to bombard motorists. ie they are going to have SEVEN speed cameras over 70kms (1 EVERY 10KMS) and a booze bus. Today Tonite 22/12/2006.
So, you could get 7 speeding tickets over 70kms by being just over the speed limit. And the W.A police say "IT'S NOT REVENUE RAISING"
if it is not, then is it pr to make them look like they are doing something about the road toll?
When is education, driver training etc going to be factored into reducing the road toll?????? :

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Old 22-12-2006, 10:03 PM   #2
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I passed a speed camera today on the mitchell freeway (i normally don't see any). Plus i saw about half a dozen cop cars on the road :
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Old 22-12-2006, 10:04 PM   #3
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Halfway point of the financial year - the state governments need their mid-year cash bonus!
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Old 22-12-2006, 10:13 PM   #4
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As a christmas present to W.A. motorists, the W.A police are going to bombard motorists. ie they are going to have SEVEN speed cameras over 70kms (1 EVERY 10KMS) and a booze bus. Today Tonite 22/12/2006.
So, you could get 7 speeding tickets over 70kms by being just over the speed limit. And the W.A police say "IT'S NOT REVENUE RAISING"
if it is not, then is it pr to make them look like they are doing something about the road toll?
When is education, driver training etc going to be factored into reducing the road toll?????? :
mmm... IMHO, I don't think it's revenue raising. It's not like a fixed speed camera in a location that neer had an accident problem. Anyway, If you get pulled over for speeding, and then you are gonna just take off and speed again, then you should be pulled off the road.... This is the kind of policing that will cut down road tolls and accidents - it's just too expensive, and consumes too many resources in such a small area (70kms).

Don't drink, don't speed... don't break the law, and you should not have a problem
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Old 22-12-2006, 10:30 PM   #5
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also probably the fact we've hit 200 deaths this year, 10 or so in the last 2 weeks

yes better driver education is the way, but right now,they have to crack down on drivers. although 7 speed cameras is a bit excessive

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(9/12/06) Also the friendly cop also mentioned that they're starting the xmas road blitz early and hard this year, so watch out WA drivers!
i called it! BOOYAH!

but seriously if more people die on the roads this xmas, with so many police out there, maybe the politicians will finally realise that driver education from the very beginning really is the solution... unlikely though...
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Old 22-12-2006, 10:52 PM   #6
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A crackdown on some driving schools might also help.

I was cruising on the freeway last weekend at the usual 100 and a girl learner driver passed me at least 10-15 over and the instructor was sitting right next to her saying nothing.

By the time my brain said get the number etc etc they were too far in front.

Talk about giving her the wrong message.
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Old 22-12-2006, 10:57 PM   #7
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You'd only need 6 cameras in a row with double demerits. The 7th one would not be necessary as you would not be driving as you'd be handing over your license.
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Old 22-12-2006, 11:34 PM   #8
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Wouldn't you only be penalised the highest speed you were doing if you got done at all 7 speed cameras??
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Old 23-12-2006, 12:16 AM   #9
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Driver education will never stop hoons, tired drivers and plain bad luck. After we hit 200 deaths on the road, I'm glad to let the police do what ever they want with the Booze buses and speed cameras. After driving down to Bunbury last week, I can't believe some of the ******* that are on the roads.
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Nothing will compare to how many radar I seen when heading to the last Summer Nats from Sydney. I counted 26 or 27 parked in the middle of the freeway from the Servo at Goulburn to the federal interstate. Dont know if thats good Tax Paying Dollars? Wonder if Today Tonight look at that in 2 weeks?
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Old 23-12-2006, 12:58 AM   #11
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We hit 200 deaths on the road’s so what does that say about all the tuff new laws and the current methods they are using.

Maybe it isn’t working, maybe cracking down on everybody won’t do anything except **** the good drivers off who are getting frustrated buy all the Bulls**t, and in the end they re the ones who will suffer, the Guy doing 125km/h wile overtaking a slower car on a quite country road will get booked but the guy who does 180 in a 50 zone down the backstreets a 1am gets away with it.

Some system they run.
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Old 23-12-2006, 01:11 AM   #12
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Driver education will never stop hoons, tired drivers and plain bad luck. After we hit 200 deaths on the road, I'm glad to let the police do what ever they want with the Booze buses and speed cameras. After driving down to Bunbury last week, I can't believe some of the ******* that are on the roads.
I know what you mean mate, i live in Busselton and whenever i make a trip to Perth i will almost always see at least two near misses where someone has pulled out in front of me or someone else or people changing lanes without looking..

it does my head in sometimes
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Old 23-12-2006, 01:32 AM   #13
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What shits me is when you have a speedo that's not completely accurate... Now you can be bunged 7 times, lol.

Lucky i'm not in WA.. Oh wait, i'm in Vic, lol.
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Old 23-12-2006, 02:28 AM   #14
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I applaud it. The stretch in question was on South West Highway. Regula travellers of that Highway will know that it is plagued by ****wits who ignore the 110 -> 90 -> 80 -> 60km/hr through the small towns that dot it.

Anyone who is stupid enough not to realise after the second camera that they are doing a sting is a ******* idiot and deserve to get raped. Now fair go I travel that road a lot and I do in certain circumstances cruise at 10k over the limit (it's a fairly decent highway for its age and location). And yet I still get passed by other motorists travelling much faster, even 100km/hr "speed limited" semi's.

Congrats to them on the pro-active policing of that stretch. If only they could apply it everywhere else!
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Old 23-12-2006, 03:39 AM   #15
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The next step is governments leaning on manufacturers, like they did with the LJ Torana V8 and big block Falcons.

Idiots dont wake up, they'll stuff it for the rest of us. Forget, power not being the problem with drunks etc, logic wont enter the debate, ask a Territorian.
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Old 23-12-2006, 09:07 AM   #16
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We are starting to tread that fineline between reasoned debate & unreasonable cursing about a road safety campaign that is well and truely ingrained into the rest of Australian motoring culture.
Try and keep this thread positive lest it become just another casualty in the road safety war that simply can't be won by swearing, and cursing on an internet forum.
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Old 23-12-2006, 09:44 AM   #17
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Don't sit "just over the speed limit". If you know they are going to be there, drive below the speed limit. Simple.
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Old 23-12-2006, 10:55 AM   #18
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Just to remind all the WA people.... We have way more police on the road this year, I have been spotting marked cars every 5 minutes, all over the city and suburbs. Especially on the Roe Hwy on ramp from Frwy South, that 100km/hr bit of road thats marked as 80km/hr . Cruise control is getting a workout anyway.
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This is all leading up to the introduction of the compulsory on board GPS/hotspot speed recording and reporting devices. The technology is available and is well proven. The revenue that these devices will raise is mind boggling. Too much for a governemnt to ignore. Cars on the road numbers will drop, public transport useage will go sky high..... The greenies love this concept as fuel usage will also drop with the associated polution drop. It will be a win win win for the government and a loose loose loose for the driving enthusiast....... :eclipsee_
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They always say they need to find a new way to reduce the road toll, so they just increase the penalties on their existing policies. :
The reason SA doesnt have double demerit points on public holidays, because it doesnt work....
If you get caught speeding on the same road on the same trip by more than one speed camera, you can take it to court and win as it is techniquely only 1 offense.
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I think the government needs to rethink the amount of speed zones .
I live about 13ks from work and travel through 11 different speed zones getting there,
(50,40,50,60,90,80,60,70,50,40,50) gets a bit confusing, then throw a fix speed camera into the mix adds to the confusion.
so if I dont relise the time of day for school areas or have a concentration lapse the chance of being booked is pretty high.
as for WA residents you should be happy with your tax dollar working for you creating more dollars
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As a christmas present to W.A. motorists, the W.A police are going to bombard motorists. ie they are going to have SEVEN speed cameras over 70kms (1 EVERY 10KMS) and a booze bus. Today Tonite 22/12/2006.
So, you could get 7 speeding tickets over 70kms by being just over the speed limit. And the W.A police say "IT'S NOT REVENUE RAISING"
if it is not, then is it pr to make them look like they are doing something about the road toll?
When is education, driver training etc going to be factored into reducing the road toll?????? :

i don't know what all the fuss is about, you obviously speed (or are planning to speed) if you are that concerned about it. i personally think it's great that people can lose their licence. might teach some speeders a lesson or two!!
Cameras are only a voluntary tax. if you want to pay it, it's upto you!
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Cameras are only a voluntary tax. if you want to pay it, it's upto you!
Well, that depends on who you talk to of course But as I said before, in the above circumstance if you get caught twice in a row and don't rethink your driving habits, surely you need some sort of road rehabilitation...

The story was done because of someone who got done on all of those 7 spots. Absolute retard...
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Well in keeping with the biblical festive season.....

Speeding! Let him who is without sin cast the first stone. The sanctimonious, pharisaical and sycophantics can go next in no particular order. _
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Well in keeping with the biblical festive season.....

Speeding! Let him who is without sin cast the first stone. The sanctimonious, pharisaical and sycophantics can go next in no particular order. _
Well said.
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i don't know what all the fuss is about, you obviously speed (or are planning to speed) if you are that concerned about it. i personally think it's great that people can lose their licence. might teach some speeders a lesson or two!!
Cameras are only a voluntary tax. if you want to pay it, it's upto you!
No I don't speed, I also drive a V8 Ford. But it gives me the xxxxx that police take the easy way out. Driver education, better roads etc are the answer not these revenue cameras. The road toll won't go down until the police get out of this one track mind THAT cameras will stop the road toll. Quensland introduced the revenue cameras because "they will reduce the road toll:
FACT : Q has seen the road toll rise since they were introduced. 2006 is going to be a record year of deaths on our roads. Sad too say.
Also a W.A. study has shown that the majority of motorists booked by cameras ,are JUST over the limit. The motorists causing the carnage aren't.
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i saw this on t..t last night watch out it might come to other states.
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Other than more speed camera's and more points and more fines, what exactly are state governments doing to reduce the road toll. This is an honest question......... : I would like to know.
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Other than more speed camera's and more points and more fines, what exactly are state governments doing to reduce the road toll. This is an honest question......... : I would like to know.
Seriously, what do you think they can do?

How many people who lose their license continue to drive? you might be surprised.

Remember the other day, a thread was made about 3 youngins getting killed on the Sunshine Coast in one accident? The local paper has a couple of guys claiming to be mates of theirs done for drink driving, unlicensed driving, and they blame the recent grief. In the same article , the boyfriend of the survivor of that accident was pulled up for drink driving and unlicensed too. At the bottom of the article, there is some hope I guess. Or were they the converted anyway?

Heres a couple more articles from the last week. The first one a breakdown of the week past. People arent getting the message. Or worse still, because many just dont care, driver training isnt going to stop this mess.

None of it matter anyway, it cant happen to me. Im invincible.

Its not just driver training, thats only part of the solution. They need much more enforcement, and plenty more police in cars, pulling people over without sacrificing the other areas of police work, and yes, cams catching the foolish. Its gonna cost money, and if people are silly enough to get snapped by Kodaks, and that can help pay for it, I dont care.

The fight is to get governments to put the money to that use. It comes from roads and policing, it should go back to roads and policing.

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