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18-07-2014, 04:21 AM | #1 | ||
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Not related to MH370, but apparently a Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 has just been shot down near the Russian-Ukraine border. About 300 people on board dead, including 23 US citizens.
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...-1226992889461
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18-07-2014, 04:55 AM | #2 | ||
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Holy crap!
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18-07-2014, 06:49 AM | #4 | ||
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Reports of up to perhaps 27 Australians onboard that flight, Australian passports appear to have been identified in the wreckage.
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18-07-2014, 06:53 AM | #5 | |||
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What nut case shoots down a passenger plane? Edit. News just said 27 as well.
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18-07-2014, 07:08 AM | #7 | ||
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Unfortunately that is the answer. Nutcases.
It's what happens when marginalised groups get their hands on proper military hardware and think they have a just cause on their hands. I'm sure they thought they were shooting at something else but that's what inexperience will do. Not the first time it has happened and it probably won't be the last and while it is easy to place blame on the idiots who pulled the trigger (figuratively speaking) there is probably more blame to be had by those who actually supplied them with this equipment. Condolences to the friends and families of those on-board. Russ
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18-07-2014, 07:20 AM | #8 | ||
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There is more to this story than we are being led to believe at this stage. Commercial planes don’t just get shot down in this day and age, especially not on a route that is commonly used.
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18-07-2014, 07:27 AM | #9 | ||
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Radio just said 2 other planes were recently shot down in the region.
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18-07-2014, 07:38 AM | #10 | ||
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funny how those passports survived a plane getting shot down and torn apart in such good condition.
Ukraine is blaming russian separatists, Ukraine separatists are blaming the Ukraine govt. Apparently Russian separatists are saying they have the black box and are giving it to russian authorities. Malaysian airlines and the Ukraine are investigating this but the UK has already approached the UN on what to do, US is blaming russia and john mccain is saying if it was the russian military or separatists there will be hell to pay. now russian backed cossack militants are saying they did it. precursor to WW3? bit off topic sorry, all the while MH17 is going to be splashed all over out media outlets, were hearing sfa bout israel. Last night as the MH17 incident unfolded Israel presidednt Netanyahu has ordered a ground assault into Gaza, the media loves decoys http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/18/wo...trip.html?_r=0 |
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18-07-2014, 07:41 AM | #11 | ||
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We only hear about this now though? Did they say how long ago this was mate?
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18-07-2014, 07:46 AM | #12 | ||
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Yes they do when they fly over a rebel war zone. It isn't a commonly used route these days for this reason. MH are one of the only airlines flying this route. Qantas fly to the south.
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18-07-2014, 07:50 AM | #13 | |||
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Channel 9 are crossing to Gaza, looks to be a large amount of firepower getting pumped into the Gaza area.
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18-07-2014, 08:13 AM | #14 | ||
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We flew over Iraq last month with Qatar airlines when their little punch up was going on, slept with one eye open!!!
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It is a war zone, but it is not that uncommon for commercial aircraft to fly over war zones. I think most people would be surprised at just how many aircraft actually fly over Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq on a regular basis. Craig H
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18-07-2014, 08:44 AM | #17 | ||
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Let us just pray that this appalling attack on innocents doesn't escalate into something far worse?
And that history doesn't repeat what occurred almost 100 years ago to the day.
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And there had apparently been no restrictions placed on commercial airlines using that corridor prior to the MH17 incident. Craig H
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18-07-2014, 08:55 AM | #19 | |||
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"Just downed and AN-26 in Torez region, lying somewhere near the Progress mine. We warned them - no flying in our sky. Here's video proof of another bird down. Bird fell behind terricon, didn't touch the residential are. No civilians harmed." I'm on mobile so can't link a source. Horrifyingly this seems to be a mistaken identity as the only plane that was shot down at the time was MH17. Reports at the moment say 27 Aussies on board...
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18-07-2014, 09:11 AM | #20 | |||
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But googling the news, it appears many were still flying over Ukraine.
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18-07-2014, 09:15 AM | #21 | |||
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18-07-2014, 09:25 AM | #22 | |||
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18-07-2014, 10:04 AM | #23 | ||
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I read one article, and apparently the black box has already been sent to russia, what's the bet it will unsurprisingly be too damaged to get anything out of it comrades ?
Another fellow said he thought the rebels could not have shot the aircraft down as they did not have the missiles or the expertise to shootdown an aircraft at 35000 feet. Whatever the outcome , someone needs their *** kicked for this. |
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18-07-2014, 10:11 AM | #24 | |||
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18-07-2014, 10:18 AM | #25 | ||
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Looks like most are diverting to go around the Black Sea. Is there a way to see traffic from 24 hours ago?
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18-07-2014, 10:30 AM | #27 | |||
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18-07-2014, 10:40 AM | #28 | ||
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by the sounds of it thats just a direct line, not necessarily the flight path
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18-07-2014, 10:44 AM | #29 | ||
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Video is of Russian separatists discussing the events after plane was shot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=BbyZYgSXdyw Russian separatists in Ukraine shot the plane.
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They appeared to be passing just north of Donetsk all week..would be pretty sad if it comes to pass that this flight was targeted after being watched all week.
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