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https://www.drive.com.au/news/vfacts...sales-results/
VFACTS September 2023: Records smashed again as utes fill three of top four spots, Tesla Model Y best-selling passenger vehicle Deliveries of new cars remained in top gear for the third record month in a row – as vehicles ordered months and years ago finally arrived – however industry analysts say a slowdown is around the corner. More at link….. New-car sales in Australia September 2023 Toyota HiLux: 5776, up 11.7 per cent Ford Ranger: 5429, up 11.0 per cent Tesla Model Y: 3811, down 12.6 per cent Isuzu D-Max: 2885, up 48.4 per cent Toyota RAV4: 2798, up 50.8 per cent Mitsubishi Outlander: 2612, up 39.0 per cent MG ZS: 2528, up 154.3 per cent Toyota Corolla: 2217, up 42.7 per cent Kia Sportage: 2031, up 14.4 per cent Ford Everest: 1984, up 147.4 per cent Toyota Prado: 1976, up 16.4 per cent Mazda CX-5: 1888, down 22.6 per cent Nissan X-Trail: 1784, up 259 per cent Hyundai Tucson: 1678, up 6.3 per cent Hyundai i30: 1648, down 4.9 per cent Top-selling car brands in Australia September 2023 Toyota: 20,912, up 40.8 per cent Mazda: 8031, up 10.6 per cent Ford: 8015, up 20.8 per cent Kia: 7303, up 0.2 per cent Hyundai: 6217, down 4.4 per cent Mitsubishi: 5761, down 15.1 per cent MG: 5400, up 65.6 per cent Tesla: 5177, down 13.3 per cent Nissan: 4784, up 153.8 per cent Subaru: 4302, up 35.8 per cent Volkswagen: 4184, 13.1 per cent Isuzu Ute: 3932, up 39.5 per cent Great Wall Motors Haval (GWM): 2897, down 5.0 per cent BMW: 2354, up 15.8 per cent Mercedes-Benz Cars: 1702, down 24.0 per cent LDV: 1665, up 1.5 per cent Audi: 1625, up 13.6 per cent Lexus: 1498, up 267.2 per cent Suzuki: 1467, down 15.2 per cent New-car sales year-to-date September 2023 Toyota HiLux: 44,301, down 5.1 per cent Ford Ranger: 43,073, up 34.1 per cent Tesla Model Y: 23,457, up 336 per cent MG ZS: 23,152, up 64.6 per cent Toyota RAV4: 22,388, down 17.5 per cent Isuzu D-Max: 21,479, up 11.6 per cent Mitsubishi Outlander: 17,762, up 26.9 per cent Mazda CX-5: 16,895, down 20.0 per cent Hyundai i30: 16,492, down 4.2 per cent Hyundai Tucson: 16,173, up 26.0 per cent Tesla Model 3: 14,540, up 68.2 per cent Toyota Corolla: 14,376, down 23.6 per cent Toyota Prado: 12,825, down 27.2 per cent Mazda CX-3: 12,239, up 57.3 per cent Subaru Forester: 12,113, up 60.5 per cent MG3: 12,085, up 4.1 per cent Kia Sportage: 11,113, down 18.4 per cent Top-selling car brands year-to-date September 2023 Toyota: 154,658, down 12.3 per cent Mazda: 75,820, up 1.8 per cent Ford: 61,204, up 34.6 per cent Kia: 59,123, down 1.8 per cent Hyundai: 56,958, down 2.0 per cent Mitsubishi: 45,714, down 24.5 per cent MG: 42,807, up 26.4 per cent Tesla: 37,997, up 171 per cent Subaru: 35,063, up 35.1 per cent Isuzu Ute: 32,341, up 19.1 per cent Volkswagen: 31,843, up 47.1 per cent Nissan: 28,694, up 36.7 per cent Great Wall Motors Haval (GWM): 25,887, up 58.1 per cent BMW: 19,040, up 4.7 per cent Mercedes-Benz Cars: 18,490, down 14.2 per cent LDV: 16,115, up 40.5 per cent Audi: 13,613, down 29.3 per cent Suzuki: 13,228, down 21.8 per cent Lexus: 11,483, up 114.3 per cent |
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Ford Everest: 1984, up 147.4 per cent
Toyota Prado: 1976, up 16.4 per cent 4x2 Utes…………………..Toyota HiLux (1046)…….Isuzu D-Max (546)…….Ford Ranger (305) 4x4 Utes < $100k…….Ford Ranger (5124)……Toyota HiLux (4730)…….Isuzu D-Max (2339) Utes > $100k…………….Ram 1500 (586)……….Silverado 1500 (238)…….Silverado HD (92) Looks like that extra shipping volume is doing the trick transporting more Rangers and Everest Everest just pipping Prado in sales………1984 deliveries is an excellent result. Toyota way out in front again but how close did Ford get to Mazda at No.2, 16 sales Toyota: 20,912, up 40.8 per cent Mazda: 8031, up 10.6 per cent Ford: 8015, up 20.8 per cent I found Honda………1052 sales and heading for the basement. Last edited by jpd80; 04-10-2023 at 06:35 PM. |
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Those American ute sales are making a mockery of the those who continually try to tell us they're taking over everywhere...
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Don't you know, it's just a fad and EVs don't work in Australia!
![]() Almost 40,000 cars sold from a brand with only 2 models in their line up that are Electric no less! Crazy!
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As for Honda...why would you even consider them with their agency model? It was the height of hubris to introduce it. There's plenty of other Asian blandmobile options.
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Everest sales are massive, I remember the previous model was around 500 for a long time.
I wonder if these sales could justify them doing a Raptor version.
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Far out so many big cars there! I thought a reason ford and gm closed up shop here was because people in OZ want smaller cars!
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Still think there is room for Ford Aust to offer a CX-9/90/8/80/Kluger/Sorrento/Sante Fe et al..competitor, as I really don't want an Everest as an eventual replacement for our Territory...mind you a CX-60 looks good although a few times it's ride has been criticised which can never be said of Ford products. |
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With the announcement of the Ranger hybrid, I thought a hybrid Everest would be an interesting buy-in to the hybrid market.
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I wondered the same thing and found it odd that we have heard nothing of an Everest hybrid. I'm sure it'll come but weird that Ford would spend first on a market segment that would need a lot of convincing vs a segment that would be more open to hybrids.
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Tesla Model Y result YTD is amazing, coming from nowhere to market dominance.
Also interesting is MG ZS outselling RAV4 ytd. Although you might think Aussies love cheap and cheerful and the cheaper the more cheerful, Toyota could fall on their katana if this keeps up in the segment Both of those winners made in China I think too - here comes the volume shift. EV shift is taking place in force now. Overseas there's news of EU/Germany trying to protect their EV industry from Chinese competition and prolong ICE, will the German industry head the way of our one?
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Ford Numbers -
Ford Escape 163 Ford Everest 1,984 Ford Fiesta 0 Ford Focus 0 Ford Mustang 24 Ford Puma 198 Ford Ranger 4X2 305 Ford Ranger 4X4 5,124 Ford Transit Bus 0 Ford Transit Custom 158 Ford Transit Heavy 59 Ford Total 8,015
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thanks for the details. I sure would love to see some of those US vehicles here like Maverick and Bronco Sport but without factory RHD support, there’s little point in importing and converting locally. The cost would be prohibitive versus the competition in that segment. Also wondering what impact F150 sales will have, the +$100k price will def slow interest but maybe the 3.5 V6 Ecoboost presents a more compelling case vs large capacity V8 Last edited by jpd80; 05-10-2023 at 06:22 PM. |
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I hate SUVs but I get a chubby for the Ford Explorer and Chevrolet Suburban - we should have the Explorer in our market I reckon since we have a fetish for SUVs.
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Another situation of our vehicle tastes aligning more with US buyers than Euro buyers but not getting the vehicles to suit. Have a look at the latest Chinese market Ford Explorer. https://www.motor1.com/photo/6781926...d-explorer-cn/ |
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Excellent month for Everest. Was at my local dealer today and they were full to the brim with new ranger / Everest waiting for delivery. I honestly don't remember the place ever being so packed but this is the problem with relying on boats. Was a bit difference in the Falcon days when cars would come weekly by road then sit in the dealership for weeks / months before sale.
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curious to see how quickly Ford reduces wait times on Ranger and Everest. A 6-9 month wait on those vehicles is ridiculous, even 3 months is bad. |
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the business driver for a Ranger hybrid is Europe, not Australia. Since we don't sell Everest in Europe, I don't think there will be a hybrid any time soon. Especially as they have just gutted the development team :(
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Shame really though about the development team and its implications. These platforms are on borrowed time before Ford retires them for EV based platforms.
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I'm sure it will last as long as it needs to and be end up being just a footnote in the history of the automobile. Just about everything nowadays is an appliance and is not worth keeping beyond the warranty period. Polestar salesman told me electric cars will last longer and be more reliable than a IC car. I told him I still regularly drive a 35 year old Mazda and does he think the Polestar would last that long? He changed the subject
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Ford & Holden closed down for different reasons. Yes, large car sales were falling, but the Commodore was always at or near the top of the sales charts until the day the Elizabeth factory closed it doors. Ford had no exports & the Falcon wasn't selling as well as the Commodore, but they were still selling well compared to some car volumes these days. With Falcon only Ford Aust's volume was too low given our high wages & Govt charges. It just wasn't viable. The GFC in 2008 resulted in little support from Ford US. The GFC saw Holden's parent company (GM US) empty their cash reserves & rip their (very profitable) exports off them, loosing huge volumes. Even with Commodore selling well locally they now had no money to develop a new model. This left them with no future given the same lousy business environment as Ford was forced into. It was very sad to see the end of our industry, but there were too many factors against it. Falling sales of large cars was only one minor factor. Dr Terry |
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Mustang 24. Why even bother...........
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The idea that Australia wanted small cars was generated by the media to try to explain the shift away from the local pair of falcon and commodore.
The truth was, they weren't being bought because they lacked versatility. They were expensive as just transport and small cars did the job cheaper. Smaller cars were actually similar in size to what falcon and commodore used to be. Suv's became popular for their better ingress/egress. Dual cabs became popular for their ability to multi task. Owning a large car that only really serves as a people mover stopped making sense and the trend continues today. Large sedans are history.
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Large sedans still exist, they're just niche market with niche market pricing - Mercedes S Class and BMW 7 Series.
Get out the wallet large sedan fans, $200K+ to look like Scomo. Maybe in my next life ![]() |
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