Traffic Lights down... guess where's the cops?

[OzButcher]

I couldnt believe this!

I was driving along Albany Hwy approaching Nicholson traffic lights (quite a busy Road... 3 lanes either side) and noticed the traffic lights were down.

Anyway... we all did our thing, letting some people through and pushing our own way... Just as I got through the lights I saw some cops parked 50 meters ahead of me with a handheld trying to catch people coming the other way for speeding!?

Now shouldn't they be parked in the middle of the traffic lights directing people instead of trying to catch someone out?

[Grechie]

ohh your kidding me !!??

you know a few years ago if i said i hate police i would of been flamed, but now, i beilive its perfectly normal to say, they are nothing but a revenue raising bunch of klowns

they probally knocked the lights down...

conspiracy unites us all! ;)

[Quicklier]

It's pretty poor they weren't directing traffic.
But if i had a quota to fill, I'd be doing just that. Bugger the sods in the cars, they'll work it out themselves.

[EF, What else?]

Great, a new low when it comes to policing the roads.

[fiery]

Originally Posted by Quicklier

It's pretty poor they weren't directing traffic.
But if i had a quota to fill, I'd be doing just that. Bugger the sods in the cars, they'll work it out themselves.

so true.. the quota must come before the safety of any road user :

[OzButcher]

Such a shame I didnt have my camcorder with me! It would have made a great little clip!

[Redrum]

Still think FF needs a section where all the whinging threads about coppers can be put.........

[Lightning Strike GT]

They were probably booking people for not giving way on the right as well :yeees:
If it is a 3 lane each way it is usually each man to them selves and bugger the rest , common sense and courtesy goes out the window

[AWD Chaser]

To bad if there was an accident at the lights and Today Tonight showed up - lol - what a story....

[Black XR6]

I was about to post the exact same thing au3. Would have made them look stupid. Was it raining?

[Keepleft]

Okay, so lights are down, why should cops be 'automatically expected' to then do traffic light duty? I suspect workcover issue plays here.

Would it not be better or safer for them to target IDIOTS going too fast OR not giving way, or both, for those drivers taking advantage of the situation at point of operation??

Just a thought.

Typically when lights fail they are to flash amber.

[Ultimate]

Wow when i saw the name i thought ok. I just come in hear and remind people about the general rule of giving way to your right. But in this case. Thats pretty stupid. Sounds like there only coppers who do what there told not have some initative and help out in a more higher priority situation

[Ultimate]

Lol redrum your probably right. Spose actually posting here is only a whinge cause you cant do anything to fix the situation.

Jeff

[Laminge]

Originally Posted by Redrum

Still think FF needs a section where all the whinging threads about coppers can be put.........

Yep, there is a web site for that

www.imamoron.com.au

[Full Noise]

Originally Posted by Keepleft

Okay, so lights are down, why should cops be 'automatically expected' to then do traffic light duty? I suspect workcover issue plays here.

Would it not be better or safer for them to target IDIOTS going too fast OR not giving way, or both, for those drivers taking advantage of the situation at point of operation??

Just a thought.

Typically when lights fail they are to flash amber.

Keepleft, this has to be the most ridicules thing you’ve ever written.

Work cover issues…. WTF are they there for then?

So the next time I walk into a bank and take a loaded 410 shotgun with me, I’ll feel a lot safer knowing that the keystone cops won’t do anything because if I decide to shoot at them, under OH&S this could be considered hazardous to their safety.

What if there was an accident at this intersection, would the cops consider that worthy of their attendance?

Also, "News Flash" lights won’t flash amber if there is a power shortage.
You’ve really excelled on this one.

[Deadman]

Originally Posted by Full Noise

Keepleft, this has to be the most ridicules things you’ve ever written.

here here!

[Black XR6]

Thought id post this. Its probably been posted before but its a laugh anyway. Its a clipping from a paper.

[Laminge]

common people, keep the hostility down

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by Black XR6

Thought id post this. Its probably been posted before but its a laugh anyway. Its a clipping from a paper.

HAHA :

[AWD Chaser]

Originally Posted by Full Noise

Keepleft, this has to be the most ridicules thing you’ve ever written.

Work cover issues…. WTF are they there for then?

So the next time I walk into a bank and take a loaded 410 shotgun with me, I’ll feel a lot safer knowing that the keystone cops won’t do anything because if I decide to shoot at them, under OH&S this could be considered hazardous to their safety.

What if there was an accident at this intersection, would the cops consider that worthy of their attendance?

Also, "News Flash" lights won’t flash amber if there is a power shortage.
You’ve really excelled on this one.

Good points, but unnesscary harsh flaming.... I don't agree with those comments either, but I'm not gonna throw him off a cliff for it....

Perhaps the police aleady called it in and were advised to not respond as traffic directors (the dudes with white gloves) where already on their way, or that the traffic system was gonna have it back up in a couple of mins....

[deesun]

Lateral thinking, slow the cars down before they get to the lights so drivers see the danger ahead and we only have an accident at 50kph not the 70 that they were originally travelling. One lone cop in a yellow vest standing in the middle of a 6 lane road. Hope he has his Rosaries with him.

[MITCHAY]

Yeah and it wouldn't suprise me if fixed speed cameras at traffic lights were on an uninterruptable power supply lol.

Back on topic, any intersection with lights has them for a reason. If the lights are out then that is not safe, and therefore the obligation for those police officers, should of been controlling it, if indeed they were aware of the situation.

[4.9 EF Futura]

Originally Posted by Full Noise

Keepleft, this has to be the most ridicules thing you’ve ever written.

Work cover issues…. WTF are they there for then?

So the next time I walk into a bank and take a loaded 410 shotgun with me, I’ll feel a lot safer knowing that the keystone cops won’t do anything because if I decide to shoot at them, under OH&S this could be considered hazardous to their safety.

What if there was an accident at this intersection, would the cops consider that worthy of their attendance?

Also, "News Flash" lights won’t flash amber if there is a power shortage.
You’ve really excelled on this one.

As you have excelled in this one.

Fact: Regardless of whether you like Mr Keepleft or not - he's actually out there, helping to be PART OF THE SOLUTION.

Whilst he never directly states it - if you care to read between the lines of his posts, its quite obvious that his advocacy activities have had a positive impact on the rules/regulations both from a law enforcement view - but more importantly from a MOTORIST'S perspective.

Question for the members of AFF: A discussion is occuring regarding aspects of road safety, traffic control and enforcement of the above.

Do you listen to -

a) A motoring safety advocate who actually involves him/herself in the development of road rules in australia, has international experience and is familiar with all things road safety related...

or

b) Someone who makes "a good point"

Lol. "Keystone cops". Charming. Well, i for one am glad there are individuals in our community willing to risk their lives in order to enforce the laws - road related and otherwise - to maximise our safety.

[deesun]

Originally Posted by 4.9 EF Futura

As you have excelled in this one.

Fact: Regardless of whether you like Mr Keepleft or not - he's actually out there, helping to be PART OF THE SOLUTION.

Whilst he never directly states it - if you care to read between the lines of his posts, its quite obvious that his advocacy activities have had a positive impact on the rules/regulations both from a law enforcement view - but more importantly from a MOTORIST'S perspective.

Question for the members of AFF: A discussion is occuring regarding aspects of road safety, traffic control and enforcement of the above.

Do you listen to -

a) A motoring safety advocate who actually involves him/herself in the development of road rules in australia, has international experience and is familiar with all things road safety related...

or

b) Someone who makes "a good point"

Lol. "Keystone cops". Charming. Well, i for one am glad there are individuals in our community willing to risk their lives in order to enforce the laws - road related and otherwise - to maximise our safety.

Here here

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by Ultimate

Lol redrum your probably right. Spose actually posting here is only a whinge cause you cant do anything to fix the situation.

Jeff

True, in a sense, but people are whinging about the wrong people. Police just enfore the law, tis the politicians that make it. If police stuff up, they usually get sacked etc. What happens to politicians????????

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by Black XR6

Thought id post this. Its probably been posted before but its a laugh anyway. Its a clipping from a paper.

Pity it ain't true.......

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by Laminge

Yep, there is a web site for that

www.imamoron.com.au

You have to admit, the dismal quality of slagging off at coppers on this forum is appalling. Some people do have some good valid points, but personally I am fed up with the majority of ignorant garbage people post.

Now some people will say, theres the door.......... ing_sm

[Deadman]

Originally Posted by 4.9 EF Futura

Fact: Regardless of whether you like Mr Keepleft or not - he's actually out there, helping to be PART OF THE SOLUTION.

I disagree with what he said, but that doesn't mean I don't like him (as I have no problems at all with Keepleft).

Originally Posted by 4.9 EF Futura

Question for the members of AFF: A discussion is occuring regarding aspects of road safety, traffic control and enforcement of the above.

Do you listen to -

a) A motoring safety advocate who actually involves him/herself in the development of road rules in australia, has international experience and is familiar with all things road safety related...

or

b) Someone who makes "a good point"

Depends what they say. They might have insight, but can be just as wrong as anyone else.

Experts built the Titanic, loaded it with half the lifeboats required and tried to race against time in dangerous conditions. They're experts, they know what they're doing... Whereas some bloke could have come along, who had no idea, looked at the senario, made a few 'good points' and had he been listened to - the disaster might not have happened. Ok, an out there senario - but just highlighting my point. Just because you have some knowledge or experience - doesn't stop you from being wrong.

A good point is just that - a good point.

I know in my industry, some people have decades of experience, and can still learn from some outsider who looks at an issue and makes a 'good point'. They aren't always right either, and most importantly - don't assume to be. They can look at (and draw from) what other people have to say, no matter what their 'experience'.

Originally Posted by Redrum

You have to admit, the dismal quality of slagging off at coppers on this forum is appalling. Some people do have some good valid points, but personally I am fed up with the majority of ignorant garbage people post.

Now some people will say, theres the door.......... ing_sm

Agreed. The idea of a section of the forum dedicated to cop stories is horrible. It's a shame we don't hear enough about the positive cop stories on this forum to... Might help give a bit of balance.

[Keepleft]

Originally Posted by Full Noise

Keepleft, this has to be the most ridicules thing you’ve ever written.

Work cover issues…. WTF are they there for then?

Primarily law enforcement.

So the next time I walk into a bank and take a loaded 410 shotgun with me, I’ll feel a lot safer knowing that the keystone cops won’t do anything because if I decide to shoot at them, under OH&S this could be considered hazardous to their safety.

Unrelated, workcover and OH&S does not apply to criminals in action, but can affect the workplace insofar as systems in place to prevent that activity or prevent or reduce injury.

What if there was an accident at this intersection, would the cops consider that worthy of their attendance?

ONLY if it over a certain dollar value, since that is 'legislation', hell, we even tell you this in the driver manuals.

IF you feel a need to complain about the particular police, the first point of call for you to complain is to directly to the Patrol Commander or LAC. Police will often operate 'with seeming oddity', yet will certainly have their own operational reasons for doing so.


Let me make this analogy - Mrs Wilson knocks over a STOP sign at a four way intersection (An $800 cost to LMCC to replace). Remember the LINE still applies. Snr Constable Carr plods along to scene and spots Siiic Willie slowing down and through, but not stopping.

Should Carr have overlooked Siiic Willie or taken opportune action? OR should Carr have instead parked safely? put on WORKCOVER required vest and immediately attended to traffic duty?

Every scene and situation is different, no one fast hard rule can apply, but certain 'parameters' such as vests do apply.

Redgum - it is a FACT NSW Workcover Inspectors have penalised police. They have authority to do so here, but must not interfere with policing per se.

Also, "News Flash" lights won’t flash amber if there is a power shortage. You’ve really excelled on this one.

I know that - but we endeavour to have "lights" on back up supply and some have a certain independent period of operation.