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Old 24-01-2016, 01:50 AM   #1
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Joshua Dowling
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24 January, 2016




Pony express ... artist impression of what a Ford Mustang police car may look like. Picture: Supplied


HIGH-SPEED crooks may soon be harder to catch once Holden and Ford stop local production of police pursuit cars.

Highway patrol forces across Australia have used Holden Commodores and Ford Falcons for more than three decades to nab speeding drivers, and criminals trying to outrun the law.

But the cars that will replace the Falcon and Commodore pursuit vehicles over the next two years will be slower and more expensive than the current models.

The switch to imported cars has police across the country scrambling to find suitable replacements for highway patrol vehicles.



End of the road ... Ford Falcon goes out of production in October 2016. Picture: Supplied


They might look like family cars, but the latest generation pursuit vehicles used by NSW Police are the most capable ever put into service.

It’s not only their blistering acceleration that has helped stop pursuits before they start because, according to police, the bad guys know they can’t get away.

More importantly, say frontline officers, it’s the stopping power that gives them the edge.

Both Ford and Holden pursuit cars used by NSW highway patrol have been fitted with police-only high-performance brakes since a series of brake failures led to a stringent test being introduced at the Police Driver Training centre in Goulburn more than 10 years ago.



Stopping power ... high performance brakes on Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo. Picture: Supplied


Other Australian states and territories do not have the same “pursuit test” braking requirement, leaving some officers concerned about a return to “the bad old days”.

“Before we had bigger brakes fitted to our cars, they would turn to mush after a few hard stops, the brake pads would eventually disintegrate,” said one high-ranking officer with 20 years’ experience.

“Ever since we had the better brakes fitted, it has enabled us to slow down through intersections more safely and more reliably … and then accelerate again to catch up to the bad guys. It’s a public safety issue as well as an officer-safety issue,” he said.

Other officers who spoke to News Corp Australia said there have been fewer pursuits since “the crooks realise their brakes run out before ours do”.



Brake upgrade ... in late 2015 Holden began fitting bigger brakes (same as US police cars) to Commodore SS Series II police cars here. (Series I model pictured). Picture: Supplied.


An officer with 12 years’ highway patrol experience said vehicle performance was “not just about catching getaway cars”.

“Highway patrol are often the first cars at the scene of armed hold-ups, violent domestics, serious injury crashes and other life-threatening situations,” the officer said. “The general duties cars are often tied up, whereas we’re always roaming. If I’ve got to save someone from being stabbed, you want to get there as quickly and as safely as possible.”

The highway patrol certification test used exclusively by NSW Police involves the car accelerating and braking repeatedly for an extended period of time to simulate a pursuit or a response to an emergency.



Back-up ... highway cars often first to the scene of life-threatening situations. Picture: Supplied.


Both Ford and Holden had to upgrade their brakes on NSW highway patrol cars once the test was introduced.

Cars that don’t make the grade are not commissioned for highway patrol use. For example, the Toyota Aurion V6 did not pass NSW Police brake tests even though the car is used by highway patrol in other states.



Sunshine state ... Queensland police use the Toyota Aurion V6 (older model pictured) for highway patrol even though it didn’t pass pursuit brake tests in NSW. Picture: Supplied.


A national police advisory agency closed submissions for future vehicle replacements last week, with luxury brands dominating the list of tenders, including Audi, BMW, Mercedes-Benz and Volvo. However, these vehicles are likely to be deemed too expensive.

This leaves limited options, including performance cars such as the Ford Mustang coupe, Volkswagen Golf R hatch or wagon or the Chrysler 300 SRT performance sedan, all of which are in the $50,000 to $60,000 price range.



Coupe option ... Police in Victoria and Queensland (pictured) have previously used the Holden Monaro for highway patrol duties. Queensland Police now have a small fleet of HSV Clubsport sedans, but they go out of production in late 2017. Picture: Parker Grant.


The current Ford Falcon and Holden Commodore pursuit cars cost about $48,000 — before significant government discounts are taken into account.

NSW Police said it would start to evaluate new vehicles later this year.

“As far as a national vehicle is concerned, that is clearly a longer term ambition (but) there is a layer of complexity around that,” the statement said. “We have very specific technical requirements.”

NSW Police cars are more advanced than those in other states, with all 400 cars equipped with in-car video, computer terminals, and automatic numberplate reading technology.



Eye in the sky ... police are increasingly using roof-mounted numberplate cameras to detect stolen or unregistered cars, unlicensed drivers and wanted criminals. Picture: Supplied.


Other states have just begun rolling out numberplate detection cameras on a handful of cars, whereas NSW has now started equipping general duties cars with the technology.

Meanwhile, substitutes for future general duties vehicles are expected to be a formality — because police are already driving them.

The Toyota Camry has begun replacing the Holden Commodore and Ford Falcon general duties sedans, while the Hyundai SantaFe has started replacing the Ford Territory SUV.

The Hyundai iLoad and Volkswagen Transporter vans have been replacing utes as prisoner vehicles for several years.


WHAT THE HIGHWAY PATROL DRIVE NOW:



The Holden Commodore SS V8 goes out of production late 2017. Picture: Supplied

Holden Commodore SS V8

Price: $48,690

0 to 100km/h: 5.0 seconds

High performance brakes: the same used by US police



Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo is first to go out of production, in October 2016. Picture: Supplied

Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo

Price: $45,690

0 to 100km/h: 5.0 seconds

High performance brakes: Race-bred, made by Brembo


THE HIGHWAY PATROL OPTIONS FOR THE FUTURE:



The new Ford Mustang V8. Police have used coupes before. It may not replace every highway patrol car, but it could supplement the fleet. Picture: Supplied.

Ford Mustang V8

Price: $59,990

0 to 100km/h: 5.0 seconds

Pros and cons: High performance brakes (race-bred, made by Brembo), similar acceleration to current cars. Coupe body not as practical as a sedan but could be used for certain areas (police have used coupes before, including the Valiant Charger, Ford Falcon XB and XC Coupe and Holden Monaro). The Mustang needs a special bracket to store a full size spare tyre (a police safety requirement) because an inflator kit is standard. Fortunately the boot is bigger than before and police computer equipment is getting smaller.



The Chrysler 300 SRT8 doesn’t handle corners as well as the Holden and Ford but is one of the few options left. At least it’s available with performance brakes. Picture: Supplied.

Chrysler 300 SRT V8

Price: $59,000

0 to 100km/h: 5.0 seconds

Pros and cons: High performance brakes (race-bred, made by Brembo), similar acceleration to current cars and it has a big boot that can fit a full size spare (a police safety requirement). The Chrysler 300 SRT V8 doesn’t handle corners as sharply as the Holden Commodore and Ford Falcon performance sedans. There’s also a question mark over reliability, and it has higher service costs. Dealer network not as vast as Holden or Ford.



VW Golf R wagon might be four-cylinder turbo but it has V8 speed, and high performance brakes as standard (they’re optional on the cheaper Golf GTI). Picture: Supplied.

Volkswagen Golf R

Price: $55,000

0 to 100km/h: 5.0 seconds

Pros and cons: High performance brakes, similar acceleration to current cars and it has constant all-wheel-drive grip, which is ideal for tight city streets and wet or icy roads. The Golf R is available as a hatch or wagon, to fit extra gear, but a full size spare would need to be accommodated (inflator kit or space saver is standard). The cheaper Golf GTI is not as suitable because it’s slower, front-wheel-drive, and lacks performance brakes as standard.



The current Holden Insignia VXR is slower than a Toyota Aurion V6. The next model will be quicker, but not as fast as today’s Commodore SS, say insiders. Picture: Supplied.

Holden Insignia VXR

Price: $51,990

0 to 100km/h: 6.8 seconds

Pros and cons: The Holden Insignia VXR is a pointer to the all-wheel-drive turbo sedan that will replace the Commodore SS in 2018. But it needs to make a big leap over the current car which, according to independent tests, is slower than a Toyota Aurion V6. Holden insiders have confirmed the next generation Commodore performance sedan will not be as quick as the current V8, nor as cheap.



Ford is said to be working on a Mondeo Turbo sedan, but its credentials are an unknown and it won’t be as quick as a Falcon XR6 Turbo. Picture: Supplied.

Ford Mondeo Turbo

Price: Not yet announced

0 to 100km/h: Not yet announced

Pros and cons: Ford of Europe is said to be secretly working on a turbo all-wheel-drive version of the Mondeo mid-size sedan, so its performance credentials are an unknown. But we do know the current car is smaller and narrower than a Ford Falcon. As with its Holden counterpart, it’s unlikely to match today’s Falcon XR6 Turbo, let alone beat it.

This reporter is a Twitter: @JoshuaDowling


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/tec...story-comments
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Really good article. What it doesn't mention is just how durable the Falcons and Commodores are, they can keep pushing back lease turn in as the cars are so rugged nowadays. Some are now hitting close to 100,000km before turn in. They can survive hitting pot holes at high speed, mourning kerbs, and where I live - cutting across fire trails.

You look under some of these imported potential replacements and their suspension looks like it's made from tinfoil
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Seen some new falcon cop cars chase down motorcycles, now that's impressive. They'll be hard to replace.
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awesome article! whatever cars they replace them with will be big shoes to fill, the cars that were made here for our own conditions will be hard to beat for this purpose thats for sure!
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Really good article. What it doesn't mention is just how durable the Falcons and Commodores are,
Because they're not, just because they run them to 100,000kms what makes you think parts don't get replaced. Having owned el ba bf territory all have had major suspension component replaced as well as bushes sub 80,000 km after normal use.

Audis Subaru and Focus with tinfoil suspension no such issue, go figure.

Big misconception that they ar tough, they are fast and cheap that it, same reason I drive them.
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Because they're not, just because they run them to 100,000kms what makes you think parts don't get replaced. Having owned el ba bf territory all have had major suspension component replaced as well as bushes sub 80,000 km after normal use.

Audis Subaru and Focus with tinfoil suspension no such issue, go figure.

Big misconception that they ar tough, they are fast and cheap that it, same reason I drive them.
For once I agree with you

But Falcon and Commodore are unique and irreplacable for some purposes.
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Chrysler 300 SRT would look cool as a cop car.


The cops would look more gangsta than the gangstas.






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Plus it's good to know you can shake them off on the corners
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What does it matter what they drive, dont they pull out of high speed pursuits anyway for public safety??

Stick em in an astra or focus
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Stick em in an astra or focus
Yep, exactly what he said ^^
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Stick em in an astra or focus
YEP that is the case in NZ, I think it is 140km
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will have to look to american pursuit models

what import vehicle maker has fast V6 or V8 utes

because of the costs
the street police fleet should all use prius hybrids with CVTs
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Stick em in an astra or focus
I agree regarding police chases. But HWP do require something high powered to catch up in other situations. Ie, sitting on the side of the highway checking speeds, car blows by at 150+, now they need to intercept it from a standing start. In that situation they really do need a high powered vehicle.

Regarding police chases, here's a recent vid of an XR6T pulling the pin on a short chase with a Hilux. That takes a lot of self control on the officer's part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fJ7_k1R9DA
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Highway patrol cars must hit nearly 200kmh near me. Well the XR6Ts do, the SSs ones never seem to travel as fast.
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Regarding police chases, here's a recent vid of an XR6T pulling the pin on a short chase with a Hilux. That takes a lot of self control on the officer's part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fJ7_k1R9DA
I dont reckon that was a turbo...
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I dont reckon that was a turbo...
i remember seeing this on newhilux and that hill is a v6 with a massive turbo. I'm thinking something over 400kw (dont quote me on exact number)
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Regarding police chases, here's a recent vid of an XR6T pulling the pin on a short chase with a Hilux. That takes a lot of self control on the officer's part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fJ7_k1R9DA
Good work by the cop pulling the pin on that one.

Was sort of hoping the driver of the ute would crash. Idiots like that should remove themselves from the gene pool before they hurt anyone else.
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Pretty limp wristed pursuit. Driving like Grandma to church.
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It was definitely an XR6T, they just didn't put the foot down. The XR6Ts make a very different sound to the non turbo models. If you listen closely you can also hear it spooling at ~1:52.

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i remember seeing this on newhilux and that hill is a v6 with a massive turbo. I'm thinking something over 400kw (dont quote me on exact number)
I think the guys on that forum are having a lend, that Hilux looks no quicker than a stock one. You can hear the XR6T take off normally (why would they launch it in the first place?) and the ZF short shifted through the first 3 gears within seconds, just how it behaves when you're giving it 50% or less throttle. The Hilux only managed 120km/h before they pulled the pin and that was 20 seconds after it took off.

These guys just wanted to see how fast he'd go and assumed he'd stop when they switched on the lights. If they put their foot down they would have dusted that Hilux very quickly. Lots of self control on their part. The idiot driving the ute probably thought he escaped thanks to his driving talent and the Hilux's immense abilities- not that the HWP car was largely coasting behind him in 3rd gear and then pulled the pin before he killed someone.
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Pretty limp wristed pursuit. Driving like Grandma to church.
I think that video proves one thing. Once they get the rego, it's easier to knock on your door later on then to encourage desperate driving. Different if it's a stolen car or people are wanted or whatever...
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Good work by the cop pulling the pin on that one.

Was sort of hoping the driver of the ute would crash. Idiots like that should remove themselves from the gene pool before they hurt anyone else.
Did you read the comment description below the video? He says he had the vehicle on loan at the time, but it wasn't him driving
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Did you read the comment description below the video? He says he had the vehicle on loan at the time, but it wasn't him driving
Yeah right...

Unfortunately a magistrate probably wouldn't convict unless the cops had video of the bloke in the car. Dashcam wouldn't cut it unless they could catch him there and then.

Still hope the cops turned up at his house and he "resisted arrest" for a little while.
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Pity the Focus RS doesn't have an auto as they would go alright as HWP. They've used WRX's before, why not again? These "small" cars aren't so small anymore
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Because they're not, just because they run them to 100,000kms what makes you think parts don't get replaced. Having owned el ba bf territory all have had major suspension component replaced as well as bushes sub 80,000 km after normal use.
Don't tarnish the Commodore with B series Falcon or Territory when talking about reliable Aussie cars. The FG was a big improvement over B series.

I don't rate Subarus, had one for 14 months when we were regrading or sealing 800 km of unsealed roads in western NSW. It was a 4 cylinder Outback and had constant alignment issues and the horn would beep over bumps. The Mitsubishi 380 I had after was solid as a rock.
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Pity the Focus RS doesn't have an auto as they would go alright as HWP. They've used WRX's before, why not again? These "small" cars aren't so small anymore
you have to be 80kg max to fit in a st. rs id say would be tighter.

and with all the dash stuff and computer the passenger seat would be full. and the boots art that big to carry all the stuff they do.
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Default Re: Police hit speed bump to replace Ford Falcon and Holden Commodore highway patrol cars

I reckon they will bite the bullet eventually with the Mustang, maybe not in huge numbers because of its lack of doors. As the article points out theres not many choices beside the Srt Chrysler at the price they want to pay.
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Old 24-01-2016, 08:35 PM   #29
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Default Re: Police hit speed bump to replace Ford Falcon and Holden Commodore highway patrol cars

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Don't tarnish the Commodore with B series Falcon or Territory when talking about reliable Aussie cars. The FG was a big improvement over B series.
VE was just as bad as the B series. Unsure on VF
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Old 24-01-2016, 09:06 PM   #30
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So in countries where you can't buy a commo or falcon do they not have highway patrol cars?
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