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Old 05-05-2010, 10:07 AM   #1
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Ive got a series II off road racing car. Long story short, i can only get rally tyres in 15", but when i put 15" rims on the car, i get a horrible grinding noise at full lock and it seems to be digging into the inside of the rims.

Should this happen? Or is it that 15" just wont fit on a SII?

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Old 05-05-2010, 10:11 AM   #2
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15" foul on the SII brake calipers, hence the reason Ford went to 16" for SII onwards.
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Old 05-05-2010, 07:46 PM   #3
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Your best bet is puttin on some s1 brakes, then getting the dba aftermarket replacement, then put your 15" s on.

Anyhows, there should be at least one person on here wanting to swap their s1 brakes for a s2.
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the brakes move with the wheels so it is not the brakes fowling if the brakes did not fit they would rub all the time or you would not even fit the wheels on. your wheels are obviously rubbing on the body or sush. somewhere so look for the rub marks and modify
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I also am interested in this, only for the rear though..
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I also am interested in this, only for the rear though..
Rears fit fine Cam.
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the brakes move with the wheels so it is not the brakes fowling if the brakes did not fit they would rub all the time or you would not even fit the wheels on. your wheels are obviously rubbing on the body or sush. somewhere so look for the rub marks and modify
You aren't trying to use E series rims are you?
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the brakes move with the wheels so it is not the brakes fowling if the brakes did not fit they would rub all the time or you would not even fit the wheels on. your wheels are obviously rubbing on the body or sush. somewhere so look for the rub marks and modify
No rubbing on the tyres... Only rubbing i can see is on the inside of the rim.

Is it only a matter of changing the up rights to change from a s1 to sII?
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the brakes move with the wheels so it is not the brakes fowling if the brakes did not fit they would rub all the time or you would not even fit the wheels on. your wheels are obviously rubbing on the body or sush. somewhere so look for the rub marks and modify
ummmm no they don't... if the brakes moved with the wheel how would you stop? rofl

the wheel is hitting on the caliper... simple... the 2 pot SII units are bigger.. You can still fit the wheel, just, once it rotates though you will get the scrapping noise.

Yes , easiest way to change is find someone with a S1 that wants the better brakes and do a complete changeover
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Well lucky for me, my road car is a SI... So ill just swap them with the Race car :P

I also have a SII wreck sitting there, that has brakes on it if anyone is interested.
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ummmm no they don't... if the brakes moved with the wheel how would you stop? rofl

the wheel is hitting on the caliper... simple... the 2 pot SII units are bigger.. You can still fit the wheel, just, once it rotates though you will get the scrapping noise.

Yes , easiest way to change is find someone with a S1 that wants the better brakes and do a complete changeover
if you read the first post it only rubs at full lock. the breaks move SIDE TO SIDE with the wheel. 15'' wheels fit on series 2 go have a look at your spare. there is no need to change your brakes ,i think above could be right about pre au ofset
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cedric.. series II and III is the same as a BA/BF spare 16" spare if u got a 15" someone done a doge on u
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hope not. that is whats under my au2 xr8 ute i checked this arvo and it is brand new still has all the little knoby bizos and looks like it has never been used. i am going to be spewin if i drop the spare and check it and it fits. and spewin if it doesn't
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cedric.. series II and III is the same as a BA/BF spare 16" spare if u got a 15" someone done a doge on u
Don't be so sure, mine has a 15" spare too.
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Is this a space saver spare? Or a 15" steelie?
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Is this a space saver spare? Or a 15" steelie?
Dodgy 15" steelie with an 80km/h rating sticker on it.

Damn thing doesn't fit over my front brakes
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Lol, so if you get a flat on the front, you have to take off your back tyre, put that on the front and put the spare on the back? Lame...

Anyone got any 15" steelies lying around that they want to get rid of? Or some decent 15" rims?
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Dodgy 15" steelie with an 80km/h rating sticker on it.

Damn thing doesn't fit over my front brakes
you have preium brakes don't you
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you have preium brakes don't you
Yep. Never tried over the old standard brakes though as I've never had a flat on the front.
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I know they're not sposed to fit, but I've seen a few Series II Falcons getting around with the same 15" Series I Futura alloys that I have. A few ex-taxi's that have put on a cheap set of alloys instead of keeping the steelies. Perhaps some wheels will just fit without hitting the calipers.
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15 inch would definately not fit on mine when I done the conversion.
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Hmmm.. I wonder if maybe they've done a dodgy file job on the calipers or something.
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Ah, broken suave, i've seen more than one AU1 ex-cab with an AUII front-end
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Yeah me too, and its still possible thats what I saw, but this would have been a decent conversion. Front end, rear bar, side skirts, tail lights and as it seems to be parked outside my favourite curry place all the time, I can see that its the series II dash centre.

Its owned by an Indian guy who runs a few cabs here in Wynnum.

Just as a side note, the 15" wheels look weird with all the series II gear,the wheels look too small. I think you need to have 16's to go with the more bold looking body enhancements made to the series II.
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Check out the brochure for an AU2 ute...
They did get 15" rims.

My AU2 ute had them from new.
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Yeah well it probably is an AUII then broken suave

We had a 2002 AUIII wagon as a cab still getting around bris in early 2008 and it had an AU1 front on it (off a dead cab). Boy oh boy did we get lots of people telling us that there's no way you can run an AU1 any more. It was an AUIII!
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Theres also a blue Series II Falcon with Series I Futura alloys, for sale on carsales at the moment.

Seems to be something with the Futura alloys..
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Check out the brochure for an AU2 ute...
They did get 15" rims.

My AU2 ute had them from new.
Yeah but the utes only copped S1 brakes
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no they have s2 brakes
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How do they fit under a 15" rim?
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