The Australian SAS is on par with the most elite American Special Forces

[GTS_300_Coupe]

Delta Force is regarded as the most elite, highest trained and most combat effective strike force the US military has under their government and British and Australian SAS are highly respected among them.

I was just reading their wikipedia page which provides links also for all evidence of information.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Force

"On many occasions, Delta Force will cross-train with similar units from allied countries such as the Australian SASR, British SAS, the Canadian JTF 2, the German KSK and the Israeli Sayeret Matkal as well as helping train other U.S. counter-terrorism and national intervention units, such as the FBI's HRT."

Here's the Australia wiki page for SAS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austral...rvice_Regiment

Also talks about their training and enlistment process for Delta and SAS.

I just found this extremely badass video of the Australian SAS under training, I recommend everybody on here watch it.
Its awesome and shows that we got the skills to pay them bills ha!

Australian SAS Training Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JRqK2dFQCg

[DoreSlamR]

yeah the SAS are pretty badass, they were the ones doing all the covert intell when the USA invad..i mean liberated Iraq.

Big props go to those guys.

[nugget378]

The legion etrange would chew up and spit out them blokes..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Foreign_Legion

[exrtnz]

Originally Posted by nugget378

The legion etrange would chew up and spit out them blokes..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Foreign_Legion

TRUE THAT!! we got some of those guys out here working with us and they make the ex-us SF guys look like amatures.

[Scott]

Originally Posted by nugget378

The legion etrange would chew up and spit out them blokes..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Foreign_Legion

Pity they've never helped France win a war though
(well, perhaps a thousand years ago maybe...... did the Foreign Legion exist then?)

[HLC]

i would love to be in the SAS. that would be the most awesome thing ever.

[XRQTOR]

Originally Posted by GTP006

Pity they've never helped France win a war though
(well, perhaps a thousand years ago maybe...... did the Foreign Legion exist then?)

The french rolled over and gave up, real tough.

[scoupedy]

Australian SAS is reguarded as one of the best if not the best.... this is from other operators (delta, seals, etc) and their oponents....NVA and Vc called them the "phantoms of the jungle"
I have family friends and relatives that have served and I am in the SAS book list which is run by one of my relatives.
All special forces are professional units that are a force to be reakoned with...
Its easy to be one of the best when the Australian SAS is small compaired to others and doesn't have other units in the same country...

[Bent8]

Originally Posted by GTP006

Pity they've never helped France win a war though
(well, perhaps a thousand years ago maybe...... did the Foreign Legion exist then?)

The way I see it, the French (like the Swiss) don't like to get involved in wars, it's the number one cause of economic depression for a country, they'd rather remain a soveriegn nation and not end up owing huge sums of money to the 'elite' bankers like the Brits and Yanks do.

Back on topic, whether it's the Aussie SAS, the German GSG or the US Army Rangers...the best trained soldiers in the world are the one's who have actually seen "real" combat and it's ugly aftermath, no amount of training can prepare you for that...

[XRQTOR]

Originally Posted by scoupedy

I have family friends and relatives that have served and I am in the SAS book list which is run by one of my relatives.

What do you mean by book list.

[exrtnz]

Originally Posted by Bent8

The way I see it, the French (like the Swiss) don't like to get involved in wars, it's the number one cause of economic depression for a country, they'd rather remain a soveriegn nation and not end up owing huge sums of money to the 'elite' bankers like the Brits and Yanks do. :

The French Foreign Legion have been many conflicts around the world, they come from different armies from all round the world .
Back to the subject, the aussie SAS are one of the top group of combat troops around on par probably with the NZ SAS who are very highly sort after for major conflicts .

[scoupedy]

Originally Posted by XRQTOR

What do you mean by book list.

The guy that runs it is ex SAS and he runs a military book shop from home and sends out lists of books he has for sale, he has many SAS and ex SAS troopers as customers.

Sorry that was abit vague

[scoupedy]

If you read '18 hours, Roberts Ridge, Black hawk Down and Bravo Two zero' you can't see how they are not the best.....The American special forces read like a black comedy, the fact that they get many out alive is amazing and a testimant to there real abilities the way they get into the sh%t is a joke and usually bad admin

[nugget378]

Originally Posted by GTP006

Pity they've never helped France win a war though
(well, perhaps a thousand years ago maybe...... did the Foreign Legion exist then?)

So they are to blame for a whole country loosing this or that?
They are probably the most battle experienced outfit in the world,and have been on constant deployment almost forever,have a look at their current deployments.
These guys are considered expendable,no political loss if a few dont make it back..
Look at their past history,they get sent into the worst of the worst,and are renown for fighting till the last man..

[NC1183]

I remember being told, by my cousin i'm pretty sure (he's ex-army), that the Aus regular army guys had a go at the delta force final training run, and blitzed the delta guys times by some ridiculas amount

[Scott]

Originally Posted by nugget378

So they are to blame for a whole country loosing this or that?

No, it's just ironic.

[Quasi]

Originally Posted by DoreSlamR

yeah the SAS are pretty badass, they were the ones doing all the covert intell when the USA invad..i mean liberated Iraq.

Big props go to those guys.

Actually, to be specific....3RAR and 4RAR were first into the region. These were the guys they briefly showed on the news, but could not name, and all footage was of them wearing night vision gear.

[bingoTE50]

With my limited knowledge , i think the SAS are the best. The problem with the Yanks is that they seem to be always on CNN etc.. When is the last time the SAS whereabouts were telecasted on the media .We never know what they are doing ,neither does the opposition. Old mate taliban just has to watch CNN etc to know what the yanks are up to !!

[Gammaboy]

Of course the SAS guys are good. duh.
Old joke from the second Desert storm:

A large group of Iraqi soldiers are moving down a road when they hear a voice call from behind a sand dune. "One Aussie SAS soldier is better than ten Iraqis".

The Iraqi commander quickly orders 10 of his best men over the dune whereupon a gun-battle breaks out and continues for a few minutes, then silence.

The voice once again calls out "One Aussie SAS soldier is better than one hundred Iraqis". Furious, the Iraqi commander sends his next best 100 troops over the dune and instantly a huge gun fight commences. After 10 minutes of battle, again silence.

The Aussie voice calls out again "One Aussie SAS soldier is better than one thousand Iraqis".

The enraged Iraqi commander musters 1000 fighters and sends them to the other side of the dune. Rifle fire, machine guns, grenades, rockets and cannon fire ring out as a terrible battle is fought.... Then silence.

Eventually one badly wounded Iraqi fighter crawls back over the dune and with his dying words tells his commander, "Don't send any more men...... its a trap. There's two of them".

[BA_Turbs]

Saying they are 'the best' is kind of strange. Consideration must be given to the theatre of war they are operating in. Jungle combat is considered a very strong point for Australian SASR, whereas the British SBS, fo rinstance, would be considered the best in the world at storming or taking a ship. Similarly, then Green Berets are basically only a highly competent teachign outfit, but are teh best at getting results using local units.

I don't think its possible to declare any special forces unit as 'the best'. It needs to be qualified a little more than that with where they are operating and what they are trying to achieve.

[Envious]

SF Units worldwide are ranked in tiers, and yes, the SASR is right up there.

Oh and for anyone who has read '18 Hours' and thinks its a good book about the SASR, please rethink. It is a bucket of puss bs story and the sig that wrote it is quite hated now.

SASR are extremely good operators, as well they should be. They all originate from "The worlds best small Army".

[irlewy86]

Originally Posted by Gammaboy

Of course the SAS guys are good. duh.
Old joke from the second Desert storm:

A large group of Iraqi soldiers are moving down a road when they hear a voice call from behind a sand dune. "One Aussie SAS soldier is better than ten Iraqis".

The Iraqi commander quickly orders 10 of his best men over the dune whereupon a gun-battle breaks out and continues for a few minutes, then silence.

The voice once again calls out "One Aussie SAS soldier is better than one hundred Iraqis". Furious, the Iraqi commander sends his next best 100 troops over the dune and instantly a huge gun fight commences. After 10 minutes of battle, again silence.

The Aussie voice calls out again "One Aussie SAS soldier is better than one thousand Iraqis".

The enraged Iraqi commander musters 1000 fighters and sends them to the other side of the dune. Rifle fire, machine guns, grenades, rockets and cannon fire ring out as a terrible battle is fought.... Then silence.

Eventually one badly wounded Iraqi fighter crawls back over the dune and with his dying words tells his commander, "Don't send any more men...... its a trap. There's two of them".

PMSL

[steamin63]

[QUOTE=GTS_300_Coupe]Delta Force is regarded as the most elite, highest trained and most combat effective strike force the US military has under their government and British and Australian SAS are highly respected among them.
sorry to burst your bubble but Delta Force are rated average at best. don't believe the hype. the best the yanks have is the navy seals, they are comparable to the uk's special boat squadron who are the naval equivalent of the SAS.the SAS [uk,aust and nz] are without doubt the best special forces groups in the world . as for the french foreign legion it is best described as a mercenary army not a special forces group [the majority are ex military personal from other nations]. cheers.

[Interceptor]

Originally Posted by scoupedy

Australian SAS is reguarded as one of the best if not the best.... this is from other operators (delta, seals, etc) and their oponents....NVA and Vc called them the "phantoms of the jungle"

not suprising considering when the yanks went on patrol it was like a bloody street parade was going on....

at any rate, yes, the SASR are good, but so are the Gurkha's and the Recce's (south african special forces)

[mcflux]

Don't **** with Chuck!

[scoupedy]

Originally Posted by Envious

SF Units worldwide are ranked in tiers, and yes, the SASR is right up there.

Oh and for anyone who has read '18 Hours' and thinks its a good book about the SASR, please rethink. It is a bucket of puss bs story and the sig that wrote it is quite hated now.

SASR are extremely good operators, as well they should be. They all originate from "The worlds best small Army".

I wasn't using the reference to '18 hours' as to show how good the SAS is BUT to say how bad the Rangers/mountain div can be...as you said the SAS guy was Sig and on his own the fact that he had the only working coms in the skate bowl shows how bad the Rangers/ Mountain div can be...
Please explain how it is BS? did he embelish his story of just write it?

[MAGPIE]

Apparently the Kiwi SAS are pretty good....

Members of the 1st New Zealand Special Air Service (NZSAS) who served in Afghanistan were honoured with a special United States service ribbon presented by Minister of Defence Phil Goff earlier today.

The ribbon denotes the United States Navy Presidential Unit Citation presented to the NZSAS by US President George Bush in December 2004.

The citation was presented in recognition of NZSAS service with the Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force (CJSOTF) in Afghanistan over the period December 2001 to May 2002.

The citation was awarded for “extraordinary heroism and outstanding performance of duty in action” in Afghanistan from 17 October 2001 until 20 March 2002.

It noted that those awarded established “benchmark standard of professionalism, tenacity, courage, tactical brilliance, and operational brilliance, and operational excellence while demonstrating superb esprit de corps and maintaining the highest measures of combat readiness.

Add to that a member was awarded the VC earlier this year

[DivHunter]

Originally Posted by GTS_300_Coupe

Delta Force is regarded as the most elite, highest trained and most combat effective strike force the US military has under their government and British and Australian SAS are highly respected among them.

I was just reading their wikipedia page which provides links also for all evidence of information.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Force



Here's the Australia wiki page for SAS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austral...rvice_Regiment

Also talks about their training and enlistment process for Delta and SAS.

I just found this extremely badass video of the Australian SAS under training, I recommend everybody on here watch it.
Its awesome and shows that we got the skills to pay them bills ha!

Australian SAS Training Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JRqK2dFQCg

Hang on, TAG-E is 4RAR not SASR.

Originally Posted by scoupedy

Australian SAS is reguarded as one of the best if not the best.... this is from other operators (delta, seals, etc) and their oponents....NVA and Vc called them the "phantoms of the jungle"
I have family friends and relatives that have served and I am in the SAS book list which is run by one of my relatives.
All special forces are professional units that are a force to be reakoned with...
Its easy to be one of the best when the Australian SAS is small compaired to others and doesn't have other units in the same country...

Ma Rung - Jungle ghosts, one loss during the Vietnam war after returning to an Australian hospital.

As some have said already, for the 'best' military forces you want units that have seen regular combat with competant officers, special forces or not.

[351capri]

its pretty well known worldwide , that aus military of any type are well trained and well respected..

[Green X]

The Australian SAS is up there, i would like to say we are one of the best but really I have no way to back that comment up, Having met a few SAS solders and having a Ex SAS solder as a Cadet leader in my younger days who did 2 tourers of Vietnam I can say they are a bunch of Hard ****'s and some of the story's I was told you simply have no response too, and then there was other things he simply wouldn't talk about as he didn't want to talk about what had happened or what they had done.

Sadly I found out a few years ago he had a breakdown, not sure what triggered it, thou I think it may have been a few things.



as for the U.S special forces I don't know, but i had a few ex mates in the Army who have done exercisers with the yanks and i remember a mate telling me on one exercise, the section he was with stalked a Section of U.S solders thou the bush for a 30- 40 minutes and never got piked up by them.

Had a Para-shoot infantry guy tell me similar things, the yanks are a bit careless and perhaps like to think thay are better than they are.