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Old 26-04-2009, 07:32 PM   #1
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Default Deadly swine flu outbreak

Should we be worried? They say this has the potential to kill more people that WW2. Some are calling for Australia to close it's borders to avoid catastrophe. What do you all think? http://europebusines.blogspot.com/

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Old 26-04-2009, 07:43 PM   #2
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I don't know if we could close our borders without living on bread & water.
But as the old mantra goes, "It's better to be safe.."

Perhaps it'd give us some stalling time to come up with a vaccination to take the edge off of it, though such vaccines can also make healthy recipients ill. There's not a lot of hope, either. If I remember right there never was a vaccine or treatment successfully developed for H5N11 or whatever the Asian Bird Flu was called - and this is a rape & pillage mutation of that. Maybe if there had have been something for it we could use that to make something for this strain..

...buuuuut :(. I'm really not looking forwards to a future with virilent illnesses getting more and more unstoppable and sweeping through entire continents while at the same time we are being raised with weaker and weaker immune systems. I guess it's been a while since the Spanish flu and Bubonic Plague.
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Old 26-04-2009, 07:47 PM   #3
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DO I think they should yes (if a case pops up closer to home), will they no. Even if a case pops up here people will still come in and out, maybe close the borders to anyone who has traveled to areas affected. Unfortunately in the current economic world closing our doors would result in lot's of lost money for the country.

But yes if it is as bad as they say they should stop people entering until a vaccine can be made or it has been succesfully contained.

Also let's be honest. There was a huge bird flu epidemic not long ago but we didn't suffer. It may be worse than that but until it get's closer or I see a case here in south W.A I won't worry.

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Old 26-04-2009, 07:51 PM   #4
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My missus is always calling me a pig, so im definatly worried.
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Old 27-04-2009, 08:35 AM   #5
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I guess we'll have to wait and see over the next week or two to see how far and how fast this thing travels.I have read this has killed young and healthy people so its not just infants and the elderly who are at risk.
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Old 27-04-2009, 08:41 AM   #6
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Old 27-04-2009, 09:52 AM   #7
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apparentley it has reached New Zealand.
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Old 27-04-2009, 09:59 AM   #8
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It's just another SARS. will do absolutely nothing other then a few children and elderly. not that that is anything trivial, it's not as epidemical as the media beats it up to be.


The NZ cases are Influenza A but they aren't 100% sure they are pig flu or whatever they are calling it.
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Old 27-04-2009, 10:15 AM   #9
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It's just another SARS. will do absolutely nothing other then a few children and elderly. not that that is anything trivial, it's not as epidemical as the media beats it up to be.


The NZ cases are Influenza A but they aren't 100% sure they are pig flu or whatever they are calling it.
Whatever ever happened to SARS and bird flu? They came out on the news as a real big deal and then a week later we never heard anything again.
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Old 27-04-2009, 12:23 PM   #10
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Whatever ever happened to SARS and bird flu? They came out on the news as a real big deal and then a week later we never heard anything again.
Killed 60 people and was going to wipe out millions. Heat waves kill more people.

This thing isn't that bad yet, it just needs to be monitored.
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Old 27-04-2009, 12:56 PM   #11
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It's too late to close the borders. I just found out my lecturer just came back two or three days ago from USA & Mexico :(.
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Old 27-04-2009, 01:17 PM   #12
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103 now dead in Mexico. 20 cases in the US, now also found in Asia, Europe and parts of the Middle East.

This was just off the radio. But then an expert retracted the numbers saying that they don't know if the deaths were actually Swine Flu or just regular flu etc.

Hmmmm... will be watching this one closely... I have family going to NZ soon for a Holiday.

There is no way to stop this from coming to OZ. There must be thousands of people who have already come between NZ and Aus in these last 2 days alone.
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Old 27-04-2009, 01:25 PM   #13
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I smell a media beat up.
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Old 27-04-2009, 01:30 PM   #14
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I smell a media beat up.
Indeed. Weren't we all going to die of Bird Flu a few years ago?

Although I spose it's just a matter of time before something really does hit us...
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Old 27-04-2009, 01:36 PM   #15
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2 possible cases have been detected in queensland.
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Old 27-04-2009, 01:38 PM   #16
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There must be thousands of people who have already come between NZ and Aus in these last 2 days alone.
Me and my 2 kids being three of those.

The NZ cases are of uni students returning home who were in Mexico either on holiday or on student exchange
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Old 27-04-2009, 01:41 PM   #17
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The bird flu was not contageous from person to person yet. Only from contact with infected birds. They were expecting it to mutate. Thats why all the hysteria there.
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Old 27-04-2009, 02:04 PM   #18
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my 2 cents - could be serious for us, isnt yet - dont stress! What is going to happen will happen despite every precaution

Keep a smile on your face and live life, its far to short to worry about stuff that isnt bothering us atm

saying that.........IF it gets here (as i said if its meant to happen it will) LOCK YOUR DOORS, WRAP THE HOUSE IN GLAD WRAP, BUY LOADS OF GLEN 20 AND PRAY
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IF it gets here (as i said if its meant to happen it will) LOCK YOUR DOORS, WRAP THE HOUSE IN GLAD WRAP, BUY LOADS OF GLEN 20 AND PRAY


Still, it is a little worrying.
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Old 28-04-2009, 04:56 AM   #20
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I've got it..

A flu that is.
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Old 28-04-2009, 07:15 AM   #21
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The NZ cases are of uni students returning home who were in Mexico either on holiday or on student exchange
Todays news says they tested NEGATIVE to swine flu.
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Old 28-04-2009, 12:11 PM   #22
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im sure heaps of elderly people die of the flu all the time... thats why they all go and get their flu needle! thats probably half the cases in question but of course its been made big deal of cuz it sells papers and gets news ratings
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did we get the bird flu that was going around i didnt here of any cases over here, maybe we might get lucky again?
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OMG MAD COW DISEASE!! OMG SARS!!! OMG BIRD FLU!!! OMG PIG FLU!!! OMG.... Fish Flu! Omg .... Fridge Flu!!! ......................................... seriously....
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Fridge Flu!! Oh Noes!!! I Cant Keep My Beer Cold!!
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OMG MAD COW DISEASE!! OMG SARS!!! OMG BIRD FLU!!! OMG PIG FLU!!! OMG.... Fish Flu! Omg .... Fridge Flu!!! ......................................... seriously....
Couldnt of said it better myself lol.

Even if it does come to Australia, they are well stocked up with the medication to prevent the spread of this flu..

The media is just making it more of a deal than it actually is about it coming to Australia. There just trying to make the public paranoid all to get a few more hits on their websites.
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Old 28-04-2009, 01:03 PM   #27
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Almost 40,000 people a year die from the flu in the united states alone. Thats around 700 a week. Do we ever hear of that?

Its all a media beat up to keep fear going in society.

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I hadnt even heard about this until yesterday. Unless pigs fly, I think Australia with all it 's border security, should be okay... things do get through though...

I am not going to stress about it..I was more interested in the Pirates that are seizing ships! Pirates in this day and age...now that is exciting. Dont see any of them walking around with a parrot on their shoulders...Maybe the bird flu got em!!
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Almost 40,000 people a year die from the flu in the united states alone. Thats around 700 a week. Do we ever hear of that?
No, but then again there are also 300 million people in the US. Their road toll every year is around 70,000 and no one outside of America hears about that either. But it helps to put things into perspective..
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No, but then again there are also 300 million people in the US. Their road toll every year is around 70,000 and no one outside of America hears about that either. But it helps to put things into perspective..
Holy crap! that many? I was wondering that the other day...

Bird flu was the big thing last year, probably bunyip flu next.
It will be interesting to se how bad this actually is...
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