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Old 20-11-2005, 02:18 PM   #1
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Default Downside of a cammed engine

Reversed out my driveway yesterday, went for the bakes and there was nothing there! Found the handbrake just in time to avoid mounting the curb.

Here is what caused the problem:


My guess is after 18 months of a lumpy enigne pulling on the vacuum line the booster has decided to finally give up.

Anyone with the plastic booster found on later e-series might want to check out theirs and maybe add some support.

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Old 20-11-2005, 02:24 PM   #2
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can ya get a longer hose?
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Old 20-11-2005, 02:25 PM   #3
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My guess is your guess is incorrect. Morel likely Heat plus material flaw.

If your engine had enough vacuum to distort the Booster it would have sucked your air filter through the butterfly!
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Old 20-11-2005, 02:32 PM   #4
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My guess is your guess is incorrect. Morel likely Heat plus material flaw.

If your engine had enough vacuum to distort the Booster it would have sucked your air filter through the butterfly!
Im not saying vacuum distorted the booster. At idle the engine is rocking slightly left-right and is pulling on the hose, which is bending the connection back and forth. I think this weakens and eventually cracks the booster around the connection.

Going to replace the booster and use a slightly longer vacuum line and anchor it to the firewall to stop movement.
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Old 20-11-2005, 02:39 PM   #5
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Im not saying vacuum distorted the booster. At idle the engine is rocking slightly left-right and is pulling on the hose, which is bending the connection back and forth. I think this weakens and eventually cracks the booster around the connection.

Going to replace the booster and use a slightly longer vacuum line and anchor it to the firewall to stop movement.
That'd be wise.
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Old 20-11-2005, 02:57 PM   #6
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would have been wiser to have realised there was a problem and fix it before it broke. Ahh well.

Repco want about $350 for a new booster. Hope I can find one cheaper elsewhere!
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Old 20-11-2005, 02:58 PM   #7
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That'd be wise.
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Old 20-11-2005, 02:59 PM   #8
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Wreckers...
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Old 20-11-2005, 03:01 PM   #9
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That'd be wise.
you got : enough vaccum to distort the booster?!?! BWHAHAHAHA

That sux about the booster standard, maybe a longer hose would give a bit more flex ..
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you got : enough vaccum to distort the booster?!?! BWHAHAHAHA

That sux about the booster standard, maybe a longer hose would give a bit more flex ..

You are in your own clue free zone! Any ownership is from complete lack of comprehension!
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Old 20-11-2005, 03:14 PM   #11
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"Cant we all just get along"

Maybe in the future ill just keep things to myself...
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Old 20-11-2005, 03:32 PM   #12
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"Cant we all just get along"

Maybe in the future ill just keep things to myself...
Sounds like a good idea, some people just don't have a clue and obviously can't read properly.
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Old 21-11-2005, 01:58 AM   #13
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agreed.

/me goes and checks brake booster
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Old 21-11-2005, 11:49 AM   #14
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Same thing happened in my EF, and silicone won't plug the gaps either. I've been told AU ones fit, so there should be a constant supply in wreckers for years to come.

Athol Park charged me 50 dollars I believe for a replacement.
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Old 21-11-2005, 06:49 PM   #15
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go to the wreckers. you dont need the master cylinder.

mine split along the seam from extractor heat. common problem with the later, plastic ones, im told.
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Old 21-11-2005, 07:18 PM   #16
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Same thing happened in my EF, and silicone won't plug the gaps either. I've been told AU ones fit, so there should be a constant supply in wreckers for years to come.

Athol Park charged me 50 dollars I believe for a replacement.
They charged me $65 today :(
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Old 21-11-2005, 08:32 PM   #17
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Old 21-11-2005, 08:56 PM   #18
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i had probs with my breaks today and i think it mite be the same prob
i was at a set of lights and all of a sudden i hear this vacume noise
coming from under the dash and i have a realy hard break pedel
and pretty much no breaks.

is it a big job to change the vacume booster???????

cheers kylie
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Old 21-11-2005, 11:25 PM   #19
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Its a very common problem with EF's, as Ford went to the plastic Booster.
i know of at least 12 people who have had the booster crack.
99% of these cars where stock.
I doubt the problem was cam related.
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Old 22-11-2005, 12:06 AM   #20
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while you guys are all checking the health of your break boosters, check the hose for rubbing as well - OED666s vacuume hose was pretty much worn through from rubbing on the back of the rocker cover!
very true, mine was nearly through aswell, went to repco and bought some new stuff, was pretty cheap.
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