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30-09-2017, 11:16 AM | #1 | ||
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I am thinking of purchasing a cheap 2001 series 2 AU XR6 auto, apparently the car won't start, kick's over fine. Has fuel and the smartsheld is working, any ideas I can start eliminating. Cheers |
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30-09-2017, 07:11 PM | #3 | ||
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30-09-2017, 07:38 PM | #4 | ||
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01-10-2017, 05:02 PM | #6 | ||
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The starter (and ignition relay, either could be the problem) relay are in the engine bay near the battery. There's a diagram somewhere that describes which relay is which. Not sure if it can be swapped with any others without looking at them again but i would have thought they're easy to get from the wreckers, pick a part and such, to try.
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01-10-2017, 08:53 PM | #7 | ||||
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01-10-2017, 09:17 PM | #8 | ||
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Ok. You obviously know better than the auto elec that i witnessed replace the starter relay and ignition relay on two separate cars and rectified the problem with exact symptoms as OP.
People can either take the advice and suggestions or leave it. It's been given anyway. |
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01-10-2017, 10:55 PM | #9 | |||
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How do you know smartshield is working?
What is the warning light doing with the ignition on or white cranking?
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02-10-2017, 12:03 AM | #10 | |||
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And people should spend their time contributing to the thread rather than getting upset just because alternate advice doesn't match their 'staff answer'. |
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02-10-2017, 01:28 AM | #11 | ||
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The possibilities are almost endless but common faults include failed coil pack, blocked fuel filter, failed fuel pump, and failed PCM ...
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02-10-2017, 10:34 AM | #12 | |||
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I could waste my time and expose the many holes in this stupid post but it would clearly be ........... a waste of time. So yeh just carry on being a genious. |
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02-10-2017, 06:29 PM | #13 | |||
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^^^ This. The engine is cranking over so it cannot be the starter relay. For any engine to fire up (not just AU's) it needs air, fuel and spark. Check for the three mentioned by snap0964 and go from there.
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If you want to confirm, maybe try pulling out the "faulty starter relay" and see if the car cranks over. I bet you it won't. Agree. Unfortunately you will always have people handing over advice and suggestions because they think they're experts on the subject. In this case the subject and question being on the AU Falcon. God help us all if the advice given is different to theirs. |
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02-10-2017, 07:45 PM | #14 | |||
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02-10-2017, 09:20 PM | #15 | ||
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OK Fellas,
I rang the gentleman today for a bit more information about the problem, he mentioned that a red hand lights up, if this is any consolation to the problem. I appreciate all the help, and most importantly we have one common interest in these Falcons, so let's not get into a debacle over a possible simple fix. Cheers fellas |
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02-10-2017, 09:34 PM | #16 | ||
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I have to agree that if the starter motor is turning normally its extremely unlikely that the starter relay is at fault. If it was at fault the starter would either not turn at all or turn very slowly (and in the latter case it's more likely corroded prongs on the relay or corrosion in the relay's socket). See the circuit here: https://fordforums.com.au/wsm/wire/a...html#page00009
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02-10-2017, 10:24 PM | #17 | ||||
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But if the stays on or flashes, then you have a smartshield problem. System is separate to unlocking the car
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02-10-2017, 11:17 PM | #18 | ||
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Yeah, true. If they're going to have a go at you, at least use the spellchecker as well . . . .
Can you get access to the car to do some diagnostics? Hearsay over the phone won't cut it - you need to satisfy yourself with some testing. |
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03-10-2017, 06:27 PM | #19 | |||
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03-10-2017, 09:36 PM | #20 | ||
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So what's your plan with this thing ?
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11-10-2017, 09:41 PM | #21 | ||
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Fellas,
The car had a bit a rust, didn't proceed with the purchase. Thanks Guys, much appreciate the input. |
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