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23-09-2020, 10:55 AM | #1 | ||
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Had the chance to go on a test drive in the New Puma ST-Line.
To anyone wondering, it's sensational!! The value for money in terms of the fit and finish, along with features and ride quality is so impressive. A massive step up in all areas from our 2018 Escape titanium Very very impressed and I wasn't expecting it. |
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23-09-2020, 11:18 AM | #2 | ||
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Hangs on bloody good in the corners too!
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23-09-2020, 01:57 PM | #3 | ||
Peter Car
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They are raving about it in Europe. Don't know if it will catch on here though. It always comes down to dollars in this market.
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24-09-2020, 03:49 PM | #4 | ||
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Anyone hear rumours Puma ST model to be announced for Oz?
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24-09-2020, 06:00 PM | #5 | ||
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24-09-2020, 08:14 PM | #6 | ||
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Did you take it for a drive?
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24-09-2020, 08:24 PM | #7 | ||
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They also rave about Frogs' Legs, Snails, Pickled Herring, and Liverwurst.
They also have a fascination with cars you can park in a phone-booth, and think that anyone who drives faster than 40km/h should be locked up.
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24-09-2020, 08:28 PM | #8 | ||
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Why do they call the motor 1.0L?
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24-09-2020, 08:34 PM | #9 | |||
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However their speed limits on average are fortunately for them, much higher than ours. |
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24-09-2020, 08:55 PM | #10 | ||
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25-09-2020, 09:42 AM | #11 | ||
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Is this basically the EcoSport replacement?
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25-09-2020, 12:55 PM | #12 | |||
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I had an Ecosport as a loan car once, it wasn't very good. I would never buy a Puma or any of it's rivals but it's good to hear the Puma is good. Now Ford just has to show the buying public it's good. |
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25-09-2020, 12:58 PM | #13 | ||
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They’re holding a “virtual tour” online where you can “desk drive” the all-new Puma. I saw it on Facebook. Should be interesting?
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25-09-2020, 01:08 PM | #14 | ||
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They also prefer to drive manuals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wdd6YYsmSk I note they tyres are 215/50R18. not for me but leaves that embarrassing ecoboost for dead
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25-09-2020, 01:45 PM | #15 | ||
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Technically not the replacement. The ecosport is a cheap ****box. The puma is way more upmarket. The ecosport is still in production. It’s just ford australia choosing to switch to the puma, which is miles ahead of the ecosport.
2 different classes of car though. |
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25-09-2020, 06:16 PM | #16 | |||
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In comparison, the Puma is worlds apart but as usual with Ford pricing, they really pig stick the customer and then wonder why nothing sells. They're built in West Slobodoboka for 33 Ruckles and then sold here at more than top dollar. Last edited by jpd80; 25-09-2020 at 06:21 PM. |
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25-09-2020, 07:34 PM | #17 | |||
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Puma is a first world market car and drives like it. Hopefully the drive away pricing deal from release will help it get traction here. If it does then we might get the ST version. We shouldn’t let Hyundai get in first with the N model Suv’s. |
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25-09-2020, 08:27 PM | #18 | |||
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Your post above is just disrespectful, and I won’t say what else 👎 |
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25-09-2020, 09:39 PM | #19 | |||
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My post above was a follow on from boss's post with a twist, most people here would have seen that, not you. |
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25-09-2020, 09:48 PM | #20 | |||
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Once again, Ford is looking to that select group of buyers who will pay extra to get what they want, many regular buyers would ignore it but, I would take it over a CX-3 or CX-30. |
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25-09-2020, 09:58 PM | #21 | ||
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It's like listening to 2 Yorkshiremen argue over who has the best Spear & Jackson
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26-09-2020, 08:38 AM | #22 | ||
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This fascination with putting motorcycle engines in cars I don't understand?
What about reliability ? longevity ? no cheaper to service ? It should have a 4 cylinder engine. As should the Focus. But the trend is to put motorcycle engines in cars. MG, VW, Renault are all doing it. They might be okay in micro cars but small to medium size cars ? No.
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26-09-2020, 09:14 AM | #23 | |||
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Ford is challenging buyer perception of what adequate capacity should be, a 1.0 litre turbocharged engine is small but the torque and horsepower is there. The bottom line here is that the engine is more than adequate for intended buyers and gives them diesel like fuel economy while using generally lower cost petrol. Last night, I was harsh calling out Ford's pricing but I can't fault them on execution of Puma. |
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26-09-2020, 02:13 PM | #24 | ||
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If it's the same 1.0 litre engine as in the previous Fiesta S, then it should be a ripper. Drove one as a loan car a couple of years back. It was sensational.
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26-09-2020, 02:51 PM | #25 | ||
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I think csv8 was referring to the long term reliability of a small performance engine possibly punching just a bit above its weight. I have no idea how highly strung this engine is. It might be a ripper engine now, but how will it hold up after 10-15 years of spirited driving? Really well I hope.
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26-09-2020, 03:02 PM | #26 | |||
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well used and cheap to buy. If you're asking how a turbo engine stands up long term, it depends whether the tuners get to them and start turning up the boost. Anytime you have a turbo long term it's another potential fail point but for owners inside 5,6,7 years it shouldn't be problematic. |
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26-09-2020, 04:05 PM | #27 | ||
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If you look at the reviews overseas online, this car is an absolute beauty.
We now have one coming for my wife. |
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26-09-2020, 04:39 PM | #28 | |||
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But I'm still not sold. There's an awful lot of complexity, turbo, cylinder deactivation, dual-mass flywheel, and some kind of damping-clutch, in a 3-cylinder engine, just so that they can game the emissions standards. Yet every "real-world" anecdote I've heard says that the fuel consumption increase stratospherically if you actually use the power the turbo provides.
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26-09-2020, 05:44 PM | #29 | |||
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The price is an issue for me but the quality is there and I'm on record saying that I'd take Puma over CX-3. |
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26-09-2020, 06:13 PM | #30 | ||
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Ford Puma prices seem a bit high for me, although Australia don't get supplied low spec or manual models to compete with its rivals.
Puma FWD – $29,990 Puma ST-Line – $32,340 Puma ST-Line V – $35,540 Higher spec auto Mazda CX-3's are a similar price. CX-3 Maxx Sport FWD: $26,650 CX-3 sTouring FWD Auto: $32,485 CX-3 Akari FWD Auto: $35,950
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