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Old 23-03-2010, 04:10 PM   #1
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Why has BBQ fuel suddenly crept over the 64c mark all over Melbourne, not to mention the ripoff merchants selling it for 67c? : Lots of ppl having BBQ's leading up to easter or what. Any cent paid for gas is too much, its just a waste product. Having lots of fun looking out for servos that sell for less than 60c. :

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Old 23-03-2010, 04:20 PM   #2
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thats why i have a wood fired bbq
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Old 23-03-2010, 04:21 PM   #3
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thats why i have a wood fired bbq
haha, my only alternative is petrol. My 'BBQ' has 4 wheels, a turbo 6 and ford badge
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Old 23-03-2010, 04:39 PM   #4
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not a waste product, a biproduct.. but yes i'm equally as frustrated. Was filling at 48 cents for ages, now i'm lucky to get it under 60, most of the time 65.
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Since when did BBQ fuel link with automotive chat?
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Since when did BBQ fuel link with automotive chat?
Ever since fords started running on LPG.. which is BBQ fuel isnt it :
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Rudd is holding back on tax reform submission, I bet one of the tax reforms is
the increased fuel excise on LPG to 38.5 cents/litre now that everyone ran out
and converted their cars with government subsidy.

ya get nuttin' for nuttin'
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Ever since fords started running on LPG.. which is BBQ fuel isnt it :
Wouldn't the LPG going through your car be refined slightly differently?
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Wouldn't the LPG going through your car be refined slightly differently?
Same thing.
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Nope. The stuff they fill your BBQ bottles up with is 100% propane. The stuff you fill your car with is 'Autogas' - a blend of propane and butane.
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BBQ Fuel is the colloquial way of referring to LPG powered bangers
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Nope. The stuff they fill your BBQ bottles up with is 100% propane. The stuff you fill your car with is 'Autogas' - a blend of propane and butane.
Depending on where it’s loaded, you can throw in a bit of propylene and butylene as well.
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You can go to Supagas and fill your car with 100% propane & it only cost's you 55.6 cent per liter.
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Rudd is holding back on tax reform submission, I bet one of the tax reforms is
the increased fuel excise on LPG to 38.5 cents/litre now that everyone ran out
and converted their cars with government subsidy.

ya get nuttin' for nuttin'
No, the excise is going to be capped at 12.5cpl not 38.5cpl
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why is there an excise on any fuel at all, the government has no contribution to the manufacture, distribution or sale of the product, yet taxes it heavily...
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why is there an excise on any fuel at all, the government has no contribution to the manufacture, distribution or sale of the product, yet taxes it heavily...
Because the community wants roads, schools and Medicare.
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i thought, could be wrong, that our registration, school fees(to public schools) and taxes paid for those items...
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Nope. The stuff they fill your BBQ bottles up with is 100% propane. The stuff you fill your car with is 'Autogas' - a blend of propane and butane.
It's all shyte anyway, who wants to turn their car into a stinkin' cab.
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i thought, could be wrong, that our registration, school fees(to public schools) and taxes paid for those items...
They only go part way, the cost of running services is horrendous.
Just ask the politicians, they are the ones making all the promises.

Anyways, there's a lot of scary stuff coming in that tax reform document....

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was that a serious comment? you believe any car running on LPG is tantamount to a "stinkin' cab?"

please explain how having a v8 running at around 95% of unleaded power, and costing less than a fiesta to run, is similar to owning a cab?
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They're voluntary and nothing even if you do pay, compared to the amount of money required run a school.
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i agree, i guess i concede...my gripe then is with the ridiculous expenses the pollies get(funded by us!) they squander our money like it's free. if there was a better strategy in place to ensure the money was spent better, then i bet things like rego hikes, fuel taxes and the like might....just....dissapear...

agree on your post above though
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Maybe the fuel companies now realise that with liquid LPG injection, LPG is now a performance fuel :
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For those of you who care propane and butane are odourless. An odorant is added in the production phase so you know when you are about to go boom!
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Only time it'll go boom is if it is poorly maintained. Been driving on LPG for just over 10 years now. Saved a bucket load of cash using it. I can remember when it cost less than $15 to fill up. Now, I'm pushing about $35 each fill which sees me through nearly 500kms.
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was that a serious comment? you believe any car running on LPG is tantamount to a "stinkin' cab?"

please explain how having a v8 running at around 95% of unleaded power, and costing less than a fiesta to run, is similar to owning a cab?


And...I got my fish..

Yes, I was being arscastic, a sarcastic A$$,

I can't wait for LILPG..:rolleyes:

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For those of you who care propane and butane are odourless. An odorant is added in the production phase so you know when you are about to go boom!
That gas is called methyl mercaptan. Smells like rotten cabbages. They don’t always put the odorant in during production. sometimes it’s transported unodorised.
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Yes, I was being arscastic, a sarcastic A$$,

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Only time it'll go boom is if it is poorly maintained. Been driving on LPG for just over 10 years now. Saved a bucket load of cash using it. I can remember when it cost less than $15 to fill up. Now, I'm pushing about $35 each fill which sees me through nearly 500kms.

Will go boom between 2%-9% in atmosphere. I wasn't referring to cars in particular.
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